Getting Animate Dead for a Witch.


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Aside from being a Gravewalker, is there a way for a Witch to cast Animate Dead?


In addition to the obvious "magic item" solution, or the grave walker archetype (which you already mentioned), there's the plague patron.

If you're okay with third-party (I'm uncertain; though this is the Rules forum, I don't know if third party is undesired) Black Magic Tradition and the skull and tree patrons will get a witch that spell.

More first-party, if you're okay with weird work-arounds, you could always go with deadman's contingency.

This guide mentions something about witches and animate dead, but it just popped up on search results, so, I don't know.

I was going to try to suggest using feats to get bloodline spells, but it looks like they only give bloodline powers.

You could be a Samsaran with Mystic Past Life and select that as one of your spells.

That's all I've got after a quick search. Hope that helps!


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Plague Patron! It's not until 8th level, but it's better than nothing.

Samsaran is a great suggestion. Unfortunately the character is a 1/2 Orc Scarred Witchdoctor, so that's not going to work without Racial Heritage. Two feats for one spell isn't a great trade off, but it's worth considering.

Thanks for the help. :)


No problem! Glad I could help! :D


What you really want is the Iron Collar of the Unbound Coven (46,000 gp) which lets you count as a hag for the purpose of making a coven. When you have the coven, you then get:
Coven spells:
animate dead, baleful polymorph (DC 18), blight (DC 17), bestow curse (DC 17), clairaudience/clairvoyance, charm monster (DC 17), commune, control weather, dream, forcecage, mind blank, mirage arcana (DC 18), reincarnate, speak with dead, veil (DC 19), vision.
And you get to use them at will.

/cevah


Thanks Cevah.

Biggest issue there is that I'm the only Witch in the party. I could get another one with Leadership, but I'd still be one short.

EDIT: One of the characters is a Shaman! This might work...


A follower can be a Witch 1 with the Coven hex. Since they never advance, there is no need to bring them into combat. With 2, you can have a coven whenever you are back home.

My character had lots of W1 followers. They formed one aspect of my information network, and having a cohort witch and a witch in every port meant I always had coven availability in every port. All I lacked was the actual hag....

Shamans aren't the only ones that can get hexes. There is a sorcerer variant that can also count for coven membership. I think there was one other class/archetype that could also join it. Making a coven is not too hard, especially with leadership.

The bump to CL you can get with a large coven can get extreme. Look up the witch deathstar.

/cevah


This may be a stupid question, but as far as I can tell from the coven rules, a coven must contain precisely three members; is this correct?
Edit: nvm, it was a stupid question.

(Also, I believe that the Hexcrafter Magus can gain the coven hex)


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines -from-paizo/accursed-bloodline/

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/shawl -of-the-crone/

Could make an undead hag, then control it. Best, find a Witchfire.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary2/witchfire.html

+10 willsave, but plague patron gets command undead as a 4th level spell, so good odds. You could also create one, at CL 19. Incorporeal, and they give extra powers when in the coven.

3/day—blight, create undead, fire storm (DC 21), nightmare (DC 18), waves of exhaustion (DC 20).


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/frostfallen-cre ature-cr-1/


toastedamphibian wrote:

Accursed Bloodline

Shawl of the Crone

Could make an undead hag, then control it. Best, find a Witchfire.

Witchfire

+10 will save, but plague patron gets command undead as a 4th level spell, so good odds. You could also create one, at CL 19. Incorporeal, and they give extra powers when in the coven.

3/day—blight, create undead, fire storm (DC 21), nightmare (DC 18), waves of exhaustion (DC 20).

toastedamphibian wrote:
Frostfallen Creature (cr+1)

Fixed links.

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Or make one: Simulacrum. The Sea Hag is only 4HD, so cheap to make. And it is under your complete control, so you don't have to be [Evil].

/cevah

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