DM Default |
We're near the middle of the first book, and have had a couple players drop out. Currently, we have a human magus, human ranger (trapper), and catfolk sorceror.
I'm hoping to recruit two players to fill out the party. I'd like to have at least one character capable of healing. The other I can be a bit more flexible. Character's are currently at level 2.
Recruitment will continue until I find two suitable players.
• Races: All standard races from the Pathfinder Core Rulebook will be allowed. Paizo published races are usually accepted if proposed
• Classes: All classes from Paizo published material will be allowed.
• Alignment: You can declare an alignment, but for the most part it will be determined by your actions and motivations.
• Abilities: Characters will be based on the High Fantasy (20 point) buy, found in the PFRPG Core Rulebook on page 16. No ability can be raised higher than 18 (prior to racial modifiers). Only one ability may be lowered below 10 and that ability cannot be lowered below 8 (prior to racial modifiers).
• Feats: Any feat from paizo published material will most likely be allowed
• Traits: Character's will start with two traits, one of which MUST be from the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide. Those traits can be found here. Those selecting the Finding Haleen trait much choose between the two options of either +1 hit point or +1 skill point every level in addition to any other Favored Class options.
• Hit Points: Characters will start out with Maximum hit points for their class at 1st level. After 1st level character's will take the average of their particular hit dice, whichever is greater.
• Starting Gold: Characters will start with Maximum starting gold for their base class as found in the PFRPG Core Rulebook on page 140, or in the APG on page 26.
• I retain the ability to ask you to change something if I find it would upset game balance a bit too much.
• I would like some background please. Doesn't have to be too elaborate, but something to work with would be helpful.
motteditor RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 |
It looks like you can find the traits here. Also, do any of the current players have the Finding Haleen trait?
DM Default -- just wanted to doublecheck, are you OK with archetypes from Player Companions and Campaign Settings? There's a witch in the new Qadira: Jewel of the East that I think would be a lot of fun, and fitting for this AP. She could easily have the healing hex, allowing her to handle some of that if you wanted.
Also, starting gold is starting max for a first-level character, or based on 2nd-level WBL?
DM Default |
It turns out one of my players would like to switch classes to an alchemist, so I'll also be looking for a frontliner as well as the healer. Something to keep in mind.
@ colin spear
I do not own a pdf copy, and do not feel comfortable linking to a random one online that may have a virus. You can find the traits onlline, and possibly the rest of the player guide suggestions.
@ motteditor
I have one character (the catfolk sorceress) that has the "Haleen" trait. You can spec to second-level gold.
As for the archetypes, I'd like ot see the specs, but I usually trust what Paizo publishes
motteditor RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 |
Here is the start of the sheet. If you go into the class abilities tab, you'll see the two archetypes (the OOC parts are things at higher levels). Both are Paizo.
I have the basic idea of what I want character-wise, but just need to flesh it out. Hopefully can do that tonight (Eastern time) or tomorrow (since I don't think my idea for Haleen will really be compatible with the other one, so we'll go with a different trait).
Arian al-Okeno |
Here is a submission, but a little confused on the finding Haleen trait. so you get the trait but not the bonus?
Anyway here are the level 1 stats. I can level up if selected the story is in the alias
The DM's description above sounds like you get favored class bonus AND either a hit point or skill point.
Andrezzi Alazzario |
Here's my submission. LG slayer of Ragathiel going for the Crimson Templar PrC at level 6. Front-liner, sneak attacker AND trap disabler! :)
(will update to level 2, background and choose a LoF campaign trait if accepted - feel free to suggest one though... I feel sorta guilty if I cheese out with the Haleen one! LOL)
Edward Sobel |
Bahram the rogue wrote:The DM's description above sounds like you get favored class bonus AND either a hit point or skill point.Here is a submission, but a little confused on the finding Haleen trait. so you get the trait but not the bonus?
Anyway here are the level 1 stats. I can level up if selected the story is in the alias
But those are the favored class bonuses.
So I am not getting both which is what the trait gives.Vanulf Wulfson |
You're getting either one hit point and one skill point or either two hit points or two skill points or one hit point or one skill point plus another favored class bonus per level.
You're still getting two FCB's per level, which is what the trait provides, you're just not getting three.
The trait was written for 3.5, before Pathfinder introduced the FCB concept and as such is considered OP by many GM's.
Deliverance |
Not sure I will even have something ready in time, but I do have a question about race, specifically tiefling. An idea I have banging around in my head for a "frontline healer". I would very much like to use the alternate heritage "Oni-spawn" for it. Its Paizo material, and mostly concerned with racial stats and penalities.
and as such is considered OP by many GM's
I should hope its considered OP by pretty much everyone, because it is.
Arian al-Okeno |
Arian al-Okeno wrote:Bahram the rogue wrote:The DM's description above sounds like you get favored class bonus AND either a hit point or skill point.Here is a submission, but a little confused on the finding Haleen trait. so you get the trait but not the bonus?
Anyway here are the level 1 stats. I can level up if selected the story is in the alias
But those are the favored class bonuses.
So I am not getting both which is what the trait gives.
No, your favored class bonus can give you an additional special benefit. Look up one of the classes on the PF SRD or open game content and you should be able to find a long list of favored class benefits - most classes have a particular benefit that you can take dependent upon your race/class combination. For instance, a human gunslinger can gain +1/4 point of grit (this rounds down, so you have to take it 4 times - over 4 levels - to get +1 grit). A dwarf gunslinger, by contrast, can pick one type of firearm and reduce the misfire chance by 1/4 (so after taking it 4 times, the misfire chance for that one type of firearm goes down by 1).
With Finding Haleen as described by the DM here, you'd get this bonus and either a skill rank or a hit point. Without it, you can have the hit point or[/o] the skill rank [i]or the class-race specific benefit.
motteditor RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 |
Vashta Denaria |
This is motteditor. Here's Vashta, who still needs her spells and gear (and a trait) but is otherwise ready to go.
She's not as much of a frontliner and I'm not sure she's great at healing (despite her healing hex), so she might not be quite what you're looking for, but this is the concept that spoke to me for the game (and one I've wanted to play for a bit).
Perhaps I'll try thinking more of a healer as it looks like you've had a few other frontline options if Vashta's not of interest.
DM Default |
Adressing the FInidng Haleen Trait
As this trait out before FCB were a thing, I am going to go with the "intention" of the trait rather than how the mechanics work today.
As such, if you choose this trait then you get both +1 hp and +1 skill point bonus replacing the original FCB of choosing one over the other. If you wish to replace this additional bonus with an alternative FCB, then you may choose +1 hp or +1 skill point to supplement the alternative.
Simply put, you get two out of the three options rather than having to choose one.
Arian al-Okeno |
I've updated Arian to a level 2, 20-point character with two traits, one of which is a campaign trait (and isn't Finding Haleen!).
Arian is distinct from other slayer builds in that she's a social slayer. While she can fight, she has strong Bluff, Diplomacy, Disguise, and Stealth abilities for infiltration. She can aid the group's trapper ranger in dealing with traps, and she can smash people with her pole arm with reach or fight up close with her knives. Her main drawback is her average Wisdom score, which makes her susceptible to mental effects and shows that she sometimes lets her impulses get the better of her common sense.
Arian has a chameleon personality, sussing out social situations and adapting based on her read of the room. She is something of an artist (she plays the setar) and that affords her a small luxury and is also a talking point that helps get her into society gatherings.
Despite her socializing skills, Arian had a hard upbringing and she doesn't shy away from violence or from pragmatic solutions to problems. She's a rough-and-ready traveling adventuress.
Arian's name means "wish," and her surname, al-Okeno, indicates that she is from the town of Okeno (or claims to be).
Mahk the Scythe |
For those that do not have the Legacy of Fire Players Guide PDF, HERE is the link to the d20pfsrd page that contains the traits. As DM Default says above, the Finding Haleen trait should be modified to be +1 hp OR +1 sp along with the FCB. I believe that JJ said as much in the Legacy of Fire sub-forum when the adventure first came out.
-- david (aka Mahk)
Bahram the rogue |
For those that do not have the Legacy of Fire Players Guide PDF, HERE is the link to the d20pfsrd page that contains the traits. As DM Default says above, the Finding Haleen trait should be modified to be +1 hp OR +1 sp along with the FCB. I believe that JJ said as much in the Legacy of Fire sub-forum when the adventure first came out.
-- david (aka Mahk)
ya know that is how I always interpreted that trait. I thought you just got +1 skill and +1 HP or you could choose the special based on your race and class instead.
for Bahram I chose +1 hp and +1 skill only.
DM Default |
@Andrezzi
This is not for Pathfinder Society.
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