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Using some inferential reasoning and semi-recent events, I think I can say with some confidence that I know which star Golarion orbits. Below I will outline my reasoning.

In the 5th book of Reign of Winter (Rasputin Must Die!) the PCs are transported from Golarion to Earth, specifically in 1918 Russia. This seemed odd to my GM, as the events of Reign of Winter take place in 4713 AR, reflecting their 2013 publication date. Why, then, are the player's thrust approximately 95 years in the past? It couldn't be intentional time travel; there is too much urgency in resolving the events for them to have awaited the players for nearly a century.

It dawned on us, however, that there is no particular reason magic should obey Einsteinian relativity, especially where the teleportation sub-school of conjuration is concerned. Had we instantaneously accelerated to c and traveled to Earth, we would have arrived in 2013. Having simply 'popped' over, we went back in time. This implies that Golarion is around 95 light-years from Earth.

We had a good chuckle, and kept playing.

My roommate then remembered those odd signals coming from a star known by the designation HD 164595 from a couple of years back. HD 164595, strangely enough, is of the exact same star class as our own, a G2V. It is also 94.4 light years away.

The only thing I can think of that would be sending out a radio signal would be the Silver Mount, blasting an endlessly looping distress signal.

Paizo developers are actually Pathfinder field agents establishing their first interplanetary lodge after Aram Zey finally got to 17th level and could cast interplanetary teleport. This is my canon now.


Is that the WOW signal?

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Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:
Is that the WOW signal?

Nah, WOW signal was from about 30 years before the signals he's mentioning.


interesting theory - def worth putting spoiler tags on the RoW bit though

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dharkus wrote:
interesting theory - def worth putting spoiler tags on the RoW bit though

I thought about it, but nothing I said is information beyond what can be found in the Product Description on this website. It in fact contains, "... the Dancing Hut travels to Baba Yaga’s homeland of Russia on the planet Earth. The year is 1918, and the First World War rages throughout Europe. The heroes find themselves in the wilds of Siberia..."


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Well done, my good sir. Well done indeed.

Scarab Sages

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Le Petite Mort wrote:

Paizo developers are actually Pathfinder field agents establishing their first interplanetary lodge after Aram Zey finally got to 17th level and could cast interplanetary teleport. This is my canon now.

Does this mean some of us will be taught REAL magic if we prove we "have the personality for it?"

I have two 10th-level Pathfinders now, a Summoner and a Witch. Elfstar only needed to reach level 8....


But by the time Golarion time catches up to our time, Starfinder will have occurred and the planet will be missing.


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Melkiador wrote:
But by the time Golarion time catches up to our time, Starfinder will have occurred and the planet will be missing.

Not really -- Golarion's "present" is only about a century behind our own. But the time in Golarion that corresponds to our present is definitely in the Gap.


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I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
Le Petite Mort wrote:

Paizo developers are actually Pathfinder field agents establishing their first interplanetary lodge after Aram Zey finally got to 17th level and could cast interplanetary teleport. This is my canon now.

Does this mean some of us will be taught REAL magic if we prove we "have the personality for it?"

I have two 10th-level Pathfinders now, a Summoner and a Witch. Elfstar only needed to reach level 8....

It means the scene from "the gamers" could come true... always push the door open civilly and attempt a diplomacy check lest your PC's slaughter your players....


I'm taking magus levels over here. Quiet down.

TESTS ARE JUST FAILED KNOWLEDGE CHECKS!!!


Le Petite Mort wrote:

Using some inferential reasoning and semi-recent events, I think I can say with some confidence that I know which star Golarion orbits. Below I will outline my reasoning.

In the 5th book of Reign of Winter (Rasputin Must Die!) the PCs are transported from Golarion to Earth, specifically in 1918 Russia. This seemed odd to my GM, as the events of Reign of Winter take place in 4713 AR, reflecting their 2013 publication date. Why, then, are the player's thrust approximately 95 years in the past? It couldn't be intentional time travel; there is too much urgency in resolving the events for them to have awaited the players for nearly a century.

I believe it has to do more with incorporating certain historical figures into the plot that weren't around after that date. Golarion's "Present" is linked to that era most likely because of Paizo's love affair with Lovecraft.


The next time I make a setting for a game of mine it's going to be based off TRAPPIST-1. 39 light years away... so ~1978? I can work with that.

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Le Petite Mort wrote:

Using some inferential reasoning and semi-recent events, I think I can say with some confidence that I know which star Golarion orbits. Below I will outline my reasoning.

In the 5th book of Reign of Winter (Rasputin Must Die!) the PCs are transported from Golarion to Earth, specifically in 1918 Russia. This seemed odd to my GM, as the events of Reign of Winter take place in 4713 AR, reflecting their 2013 publication date. Why, then, are the player's thrust approximately 95 years in the past? It couldn't be intentional time travel; there is too much urgency in resolving the events for them to have awaited the players for nearly a century.

I believe it has to do more with incorporating certain historical figures into the plot that weren't around after that date. Golarion's "Present" is linked to that era most likely because of Paizo's love affair with Lovecraft.

It has nothing to do with Lovecraft. We needed a time period after Rasputin was "killed" and as the war had wound down to tell the story we wanted to tell.


avr wrote:
The next time I make a setting for a game of mine it's going to be based off TRAPPIST-1. 39 light years away... so ~1978? I can work with that.

You do know that those worlds are likely to be nothing more than barren rocks?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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Le Petite Mort wrote:

My roommate then remembered those odd signals coming from a star known by the designation HD 164595 from a couple of years back. HD 164595, strangely enough, is of the exact same star class as our own, a G2V. It is also 94.4 light years away.

The only thing I can think of that would be sending out a radio signal would be the Silver Mount, blasting an endlessly looping distress signal.

I hear it's just the numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 repeated over and over.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
avr wrote:
The next time I make a setting for a game of mine it's going to be based off TRAPPIST-1. 39 light years away... so ~1978? I can work with that.
You do know that those worlds are likely to be nothing more than barren rocks?

'Likely'. No imagination there Drahliana?


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Vic Wertz wrote:
Le Petite Mort wrote:

My roommate then remembered those odd signals coming from a star known by the designation HD 164595 from a couple of years back. HD 164595, strangely enough, is of the exact same star class as our own, a G2V. It is also 94.4 light years away.

The only thing I can think of that would be sending out a radio signal would be the Silver Mount, blasting an endlessly looping distress signal.

I hear it's just the numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 repeated over and over.

*Snicker snort*


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Le Petite Mort wrote:

Using some inferential reasoning and semi-recent events, I think I can say with some confidence that I know which star Golarion orbits. Below I will outline my reasoning.

In the 5th book of Reign of Winter (Rasputin Must Die!) the PCs are transported from Golarion to Earth, specifically in 1918 Russia. This seemed odd to my GM, as the events of Reign of Winter take place in 4713 AR, reflecting their 2013 publication date. Why, then, are the player's thrust approximately 95 years in the past? It couldn't be intentional time travel; there is too much urgency in resolving the events for them to have awaited the players for nearly a century.

It dawned on us, however, that there is no particular reason magic should obey Einsteinian relativity, especially where the teleportation sub-school of conjuration is concerned. Had we instantaneously accelerated to c and traveled to Earth, we would have arrived in 2013. Having simply 'popped' over, we went back in time. This implies that Golarion is around 95 light-years from Earth.

I have to admit I can't follow the reasoning here. Sure it took place 95 years before publication, but I don't see why that has anything to do with distance or requires time travel. If hut travel is essentially instantaneous, Golarion could be any distance away.

Why the assumption that Golarion is at such a distance that light from it in 4713 AR reached us in 2013?

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