Takhisis |
As the title asks. If you take the Ecclesitheurge archetype as a cleric, and you make your secondary domain an inqusition (such as, say, the conversion inquisition) instead of a domain, I assume you still get to choose which domains list you draw your domain spell from since you use the new list "instead of that list"...and since the inquisition has a list of "nothing" you would use the new list in place of "nothing?" This is how I've always ran the Ecclesitheurge cleric, and makes taking an inquisition (like conversion for wis-to-social skills) far more viable. However, while this is my assumption, is this the actual RAW or not? I am wondering because I was considering making an Ecclesitheurge with the conversion inqusition as their secondary domain for PF society if this is indeed the actual RAW, but since I am not sure I'd like a straight answer on this before I make said character. Any clarity would be appreciated! Thanks!
Murdock Mudeater |
I asked a bit ago. Concensus was that swaping the domain for an inquisition is considered an alteration to the Domain class feature, so isn't an option for classes that modify the domain (like this archetype, Theologian, and the Seperatist).
Kinda vague, though, as subdomains are clearly intended to function with this sort of class and they certainly modify the domain too.
Claxon |
That is how it is written, however this very much seems like an unintended exploit of the rules.
The writer of the ecclesitheurge probably didn't consider that clerics could choose inquisitions instead of domains and how that would interact with the way they wrote the Domain Mastery ability.
I highly doubt it was intended for you to take an Inquisition and then get the spells from another domain spell list anyways. Inquisitions are typically weaker for a cleric because of the lack of spells provided.
Dave Justus |
Inquisitions are like, but not the same as a domain. Strictly by the rules, although a cleric can take an inquisition in place of a domain, a Ecclesitheurge cannot because: "when an ecclesitheurge chooses his cleric domains, he designates one as his primary domain and the other as his secondary domain." To fulfill that requirement, both have to be domains. An inquisition can never be either a primary domain or a secondary domain, because it is not a domain. In contrast, a sub-domain is still a domain, and would work just fine.
Personally, I would freely allow an inquisition as a primary domain, as Blake's Tiger suggested, because the primary domain is really not modified by the archetype, but that would be a house-rule.
Claxon |
Of course then it wouldn't do what the OP wants, which is basically to get some abilities and a second spell list.
Some inquisitions are honestly better than the powers you get from certain domains, but the spell list is what clerics are really after. He basically wants to have his cake and eat it too.