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Thank you all for engaging Will and Margherita with some interesting questions! The authors and I look forward to working with those of you who have signed up for writing opportunites, too!

We will be previewing some more material very soon, so keep an eye out on the Book of Passion Kickstarter.

Also, I want to give a shout-out to Wolfgang Baur's Midgard Campaign Setting Kickstarter. Wolfgang is one of the folks who inspired me to add tiers to give freelancers opportunities. I backed many of his Open Design projects, and participated in many Kobold Press projects because of it. I love having helped build parts of Midgard. I'd like to expand some even further as a publisher. If his KS gets 2K backers, he'll open up Midgard to publishers and writers. That is an AMAZING opportunity for publishers like myself. I've offered up some free PDFs from the Bite Me! line to promote backer numbers. It will be announced soon. If you've missed out on those PDFs, you could get several of them for free by backing Midgard. It is a wonderful setting, so you won't be disappointed in the book. I adore it.

Anyway, if you've got $19 or more to spare this Friday, sign up for the Midgard Kickstarter.

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Christina Stiles wrote:
Moskau wrote:
I can't pledge any more, but I am torn between passionate and beastly lover.

I can't help you on that choice. :) It depends on what interests you the most.

You can always help us find 13 $1 backers, though, to open up Margherita's freebie! Jacob did a great job on drawing the witch's sex scene. He said the witch's bottom was one of his best-drawn butts. It's a damn sexy scene. :)

Always a fan of witch butt; feiya is in my top 5 hottest Iconics. Sadly, the people I know most likely to pledge also share my library.


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Christina Stiles wrote:

Thank you all for engaging Will and Margherita with some interesting questions! The authors and I look forward to working with those of you who have signed up for writing opportunites, too!

We will be previewing some more material very soon, so keep an eye out on the Book of Passion Kickstarter.

Also, I want to give a shout-out to Wolfgang Baur's Midgard Campaign Setting Kickstarter. Wolfgang is one of the folks who inspired me to add tiers to give freelancers opportunities. I backed many of his Open Design projects, and participated in many Kobold Press projects because of it. I love having helped build parts of Midgard. I'd like to expand some even further as a publisher. If his KS gets 2K backers, he'll open up Midgard to publishers and writers. That is an AMAZING opportunity for publishers like myself. I've offered up some free PDFs from the Bite Me! line to promote backer numbers. It will be announced soon. If you've missed out on those PDFs, you could get several of them for free by backing Midgard. It is a wonderful setting, so you won't be disappointed in the book. I adore it.

Anyway, if you've got $19 or more to spare this Friday, sign up for the Midgard Kickstarter.

I'm already planning to give you two money.

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Will Wells previews the Sacred Prostitute archetype for the cleric on the KS. Art by Marc Curlee. This is an iconic, so there is a clothed and unclothed version of Desria with her character information.


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Wraithguard wrote:

This also means I'll need to spend less time playing video games and more time designing things. Oh well.

Homebrew GMing for years has given me plenty of practice, maybe its time I tried doing something with that practice.

I dunno, this job hasn't yet impacted my ability to play video games.

Actually, video games are one of my favorite sources of homebrew inspiration.

Mass Effect, Xenogears, Xenosaga, Xenoblade, Final Fantasy, Ys, Legend of Zelda....

Of course, some of those required more homebrew rules than others.


My normal gig at a factory takes up plenty of time, especially when overtime kicks in, as infrequent as that might be. Gotta make this Engineering degree pay for itself.

I'll second them as a great source of inspiration. All of those franchises you mention are wonderful.


So, I've been asked to tease some stuff from our first stretch goal. Since I've already teased stuff for the summoner and anyone who uses the search bar above can look up the Passion Mystery in its original drafts, I'll start with the Alchemist.

For Alchemist, we have a dozen new discoveries as well as two new archetypes, the Midwife and the Perfumer.

The new discoveries include several bomb upgrades and a number of abilities that interact with our pregnancy rules. While the pregnancy related options aren't useful during combat, they are excellent ways to make money during down time - nobles will pay well for 100% effective birth control.

The Midwife gives up the use of bombs to gain magical healing. Unlike most alchemists, Midwives use their wisdom score to determine the strength of their formulae and other alchemical creations.

The Perfumer gives up mutagens to be able to create magical perfumes that can aid their party, hinder their enemies, or help the Perfumer to seduce others.

Hopefully that will give you something to talk about. See you all tomorrow - I'm heading to bed.

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Christina Stiles wrote:

Also, I want to give a shout-out to Wolfgang Baur's Midgard Campaign Setting Kickstarter. Wolfgang is one of the folks who inspired me to add tiers to give freelancers opportunities. I backed many of his Open Design projects, and participated in many Kobold Press projects because of it. I love having helped build parts of Midgard. I'd like to expand some even further as a publisher. If his KS gets 2K backers, he'll open up Midgard to publishers and writers. That is an AMAZING opportunity for publishers like myself. I've offered up some free PDFs from the Bite Me! line to promote backer numbers. It will be announced soon. If you've missed out on those PDFs, you could get several of them for free by backing Midgard. It is a wonderful setting, so you won't be disappointed in the book. I adore it.

I wasn't planning on backing, but I do love Midgard and I would love to see what an open Midgard could produce.


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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Luthorne wrote:

I'm particularly looking forward to seeing what kind of spells or magic items might be found in here...I know I'd like to see a spell somewhere between mirror hideaway/rope trick and mage's magnificent mansion for an extradimensional bedroom with some furnishings...at least a few beds included.

No, actually. We tried not to reinvent the wheel, and all of the spells you just mentioned make wonderful temporary bedrooms without any need for alteration. We didn't want to bog spellcasters down with spells that did things that were already available.

Ah, most GMs I've played under don't allow rope trick or mirror hideaway to have any furnishings since they're not listed in the spell - unlike with secure shelter or mage's magnificent mansion - so my experience has been that you have to bring your own bedroll. But perhaps my experience is atypical there.

Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Luthorne wrote:

Also...do you think a spell along these lines might be something appropriate for this book?

** spoiler omitted **...

We do have some information on magical gender alteration. However, again, thanks to some of the stuff included in recent Paizo publications, there is already a fair amount of stuff in the SRD that takes care of that.

We do have a section that talks about already existing spells and how they can be used to do "off label" things.

So we don't have a spell like the one you describe because Alter Self already takes care of gender alteration.

Ah, that's a tad depressing...I find alter self fairly useless for these purposes since it only lasts a few minutes, making it fairly useless for anything but battle or short-term utility (such as grabbing a swim speed or scent). Assume appearance and greater assume appearance only work for assuming the forms of dead people, and claim identity and greater claim identity - unsurprisingly - only let you steal the forms of others. There is, of course, the elixir of sex shift, but that is somewhat expensive - especially if you intend to swap back and forth to see which you prefer - and permanent. Not that I'm trying to say you need to or anything, just saying that unless you're 15th level and have Extend Spell, I don't really find alter self to be of any use for such purposes. Which is not to say it isn't a flexible combat buff spell, it just doesn't do what I'd like it to.

This certainly doesn't affect my intent to back, but I did feel the need to explain why I disagree with your statement. But there's always homebrew!

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Just a little over 1K away from funded!


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Rysky wrote:
Christina Stiles wrote:
Moskau wrote:
I can't pledge any more, but I am torn between passionate and beastly lover.

I can't help you on that choice. :) It depends on what interests you the most.

You can always help us find 13 $1 backers, though, to open up Margherita's freebie! Jacob did a great job on drawing the witch's sex scene. He said the witch's bottom was one of his best-drawn butts. It's a damn sexy scene. :)

Ngghhhhhh...

Look but don't touch, she's a LG married woman:)


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Rysky wrote:
Just a little over 1K away from funded!

Huzzah!

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Bardess wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Christina Stiles wrote:
Moskau wrote:
I can't pledge any more, but I am torn between passionate and beastly lover.

I can't help you on that choice. :) It depends on what interests you the most.

You can always help us find 13 $1 backers, though, to open up Margherita's freebie! Jacob did a great job on drawing the witch's sex scene. He said the witch's bottom was one of his best-drawn butts. It's a damn sexy scene. :)

Ngghhhhhh...

Look but don't touch, she's a LG married woman:)

^w^

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Also I absolutely love the Sacred Prostitue, and the art, while not really my style, is nice, she's very Aphrodite/Adult Film Actress :3

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Freehold DM wrote:
I have never been so excited to give someone money before.

LIES! I was at your bachelor party!

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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
I have never been so excited to give someone money before.
LIES! I was at your bachelor party!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Ooooo, speaking of, I wouldn't mind seeing a Bardic Masterpiece or some other spell where you dance/perform and and multiple targets start throwing/giving beneficial items like coins and potions or other magic items to you, in a similar vein to shamefully overdressed (awesome spell btw).


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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
I have never been so excited to give someone money before.
LIES! I was at your bachelor party!

HA! That was giving away SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY!

One of the best nights of my life.


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Rysky wrote:

Ooooo, speaking of, I wouldn't mind seeing a Bardic Masterpiece or some other spell where you dance/perform and and multiple targets start throwing/giving beneficial items like coins and potions or other magic items to you, in a similar vein to shamefully overdressed (awesome spell btw).

Ooo, what an idea. Maybe you should write that.

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Bardess wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Ooooo, speaking of, I wouldn't mind seeing a Bardic Masterpiece or some other spell where you dance/perform and and multiple targets start throwing/giving beneficial items like coins and potions or other magic items to you, in a similar vein to shamefully overdressed (awesome spell btw).

Ooo, what an idea. Maybe you should write that.

>_>

<_<

:3

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Cast Make it Rain

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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
Cast Make it Rain

Ah-ha! We already have a name for it! Progress!


Luthorne wrote:
Ah, most GMs I've played under don't allow rope trick or mirror hideaway to have any furnishings since they're not listed in the spell - unlike with secure shelter or mage's magnificent mansion - so my experience has been that you have to bring your own bedroll. But perhaps my experience is atypical there.

Well, most adventurers have a bedroom, do they not?

And besides, where does it say that the "floor" created by either spell has to be hard? Why not make your rope trick extra-dimensional space pillow-top?

Luthorne wrote:

Ah, that's a tad depressing...I find alter self fairly useless for these purposes since it only lasts a few minutes, making it fairly useless for anything but battle or short-term utility (such as grabbing a swim speed or scent).

Well, while it certainly wouldn't last for the night, it might get through one phase of a sexual encounter (depending on caster level, Extend spell, and individual skill) meaning that it could be used to make a quick alteration that then goes away. Also, if you wanted to go through multiple gender options in a single night, then recasting would be necessary anyway.

Obviously this wouldn't allow you to fool someone, but multiple castings does solve the duration problem otherwise.

On the more permanent end there is Polymorph Any Object at 8th level (which, if used to swap gender, has a permanent duration).

Hmm. Looking over the polymorph subschool, there really is a missing niche for a greater duration version of Alter self, isn't there? Well...

Luthorne wrote:


There is, of course, the elixir of sex shift, but that is somewhat expensive - especially if you intend to swap back and forth to see which you prefer - and permanent.

Well, it isn't cheap, but one of the magic items we present is called a "Ring of Gender Fluidity" which completely solves the issue you describe, allowing the wearer to adjust their gender at will. But yeah, it isn't cheap.

Part of me thinks that, considering how difficult of an issue it is in real life, that the solution shouldn't be cheap - that finding a way to change one's gender should be a quest worthy goal rather than something you can get at the local potion shop for 50gp. But that's me.

On the other hand, if you feel really strongly about introducing some spells into the book that fill the "longer than 1 minute per level duration" niche, then you could pick up one of the higher level tiers and add those spells to the book.


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No questions about the Alchemist stuff I posted last night? Huh. Okay, well maybe this will spawn a few.

For Cavaliers, we have two new orders and the Knight Servant archetype.

Members of the Order of the Knot dedicates themselves to a chosen ward who they choose to defend and serve. As such, members of the order become skilled body guards.

The Order of the Red Rose protects love above all else. Members gain bonuses against any who would oppose or oppress love.

The Knight Servant is the icon of courtly love, devoting themselves in chaste adoration to a noble lord or lady. The Knight Servant gets a pool of points that allow them to perform mighty feats of bravery in honor of the subject of their affection.

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Missed the Alchemist stuff, sorry. The Perfumer sounds really interesting.

"Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Members of the Order of the Knot

*opens mouth*

*closes it*


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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Part of me thinks that, considering how difficult of an issue it is in real life, that the solution shouldn't be cheap - that finding a way to change one's gender should be a quest worthy goal rather than something you can get at the local potion shop for 50gp. But that's me.

That's one of those things that, to me, is a victim of the high-power/high-ubiquity rules for magic in d20/Pathfinder. There's no reason why you can't fiddle with those rules and assumptions when starting a new campaign, of course, but the "bog standard" listing makes low-level magic both comparatively cheap and rather easily-located in any small-to-mid-sized urban settlement.

Personally, I wish Pathfinder provided GP values for their specific cursed items the way that 3.5 did, since then we'd know what it costs to have someone deliberately make a girdle of opposite gender.


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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
For Cavaliers, we have two new orders and the Knight Servant archetype.

Is it wrong that I was hoping that there was a BDSM-themed cavalier archetype where you could ride your partner into battle as if they were a mount?


Alzrius wrote:


Personally, I wish Pathfinder provided GP values for their specific cursed items the way that 3.5 did, since then we'd know what it costs to have someone deliberately make a girdle of opposite gender.

Well, since the girdle was based on belts of str, dex, or con, one would likely be at least 4,000. Plus, since you can't take it off, it eats your belt slot, preventing you from getting the normal version of any of those.

The Elixir of Sex Shift is cheaper at 2,250. Now, that's still out of the price range of starting characters, but would be affordable after a couple of levels. And even that cheap, it is just expensive enough to feel like an accomplishment when you can finally afford it.


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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Well, since the girdle was based on belts of str, dex, or con, one would likely be at least 4,000. Plus, since you can't take it off, it eats your belt slot, preventing you from getting the normal version of any of those.

*blinks* ...?

d20PFSRD wrote:

Girdle of Opposite Gender

Source: PRG:APG

Aura moderate transmutation; CL 10th

Slot belt; Weight 1 lb.

DESCRIPTION

When this magical belt is put on, the wearer must immediately make a DC 20 Fortitude saving throw or be transformed into a person of the opposite gender. The character’s abilities, mind, and spirit remain unaffected; only the character’s sex changes. If the character’s saving throw is a natural 1, the item actually removes all gender from the wearer, giving him an androgynous, neutered appearance. The change is permanent unless undone with curse-removing magic. Once its magic takes effect, the belt can be removed without effort. A creature can only be affected by a particular girdle once, though other girdles of this type can cause another transformation.


Alzrius wrote:
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
For Cavaliers, we have two new orders and the Knight Servant archetype.
Is it wrong that I was hoping that there was a BDSM-themed cavalier archetype where you could ride your partner into battle as if they were a mount?

I suppose it depends on if you mean wrong from a sexual/cultural standpoint or wrong from a mechanical standpoint. :p

For the former - no, not at all.

For the later - I don't think a humanoid could charge properly while carrying another humanoid. That would be a pretty hefty speed reduction.

Unless there was magical shape-shifting involved first, in which case that would be fine.

Of course, if you want to play a Cavalier without a mount (so you could ride your wild-shaped druid lover into battle, for instance), then that's actually far easier to accomplish. One of the upcoming Talented NPCs (another of Christina's projects that I was involved with) is a mountless Cavalier.


Alzrius wrote:

Once its magic takes effect, the belt can be removed without effort.

I was thinking of the 3.5 ones. I'm pretty sure those didn't come off (at least, I remember a game where there was an NPC who couldn't remove hers).

Or maybe that was the 2nd ed ones?

Anyway, it's still twice the price of an Elixir of Sex Shift for the same effect.

Edit: I should point out, the only time when one of those belts came up was in a game I was playing in, not running. As mentioned above, the NPC who had one on couldn't remove it, which is why I thought that was how they worked (at least in 3.5).

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Alzrius wrote:
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
For Cavaliers, we have two new orders and the Knight Servant archetype.
Is it wrong that I was hoping that there was a BDSM-themed cavalier archetype where you could ride your partner into battle as if they were a mount?

My mind went to a similar theme, but less mount partner and more honor guard for their charge.


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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Luthorne wrote:

Ah, that's a tad depressing...I find alter self fairly useless for these purposes since it only lasts a few minutes, making it fairly useless for anything but battle or short-term utility (such as grabbing a swim speed or scent).

Well, while it certainly wouldn't last for the night, it might get through one phase of a sexual encounter (depending on caster level, Extend spell, and individual skill) meaning that it could be used to make a quick alteration that then goes away. Also, if you wanted to go through multiple gender options in a single night, then recasting would be necessary anyway.

Obviously this wouldn't allow you to fool someone, but multiple castings does solve the duration problem otherwise.

On the more permanent end there is Polymorph Any Object at 8th level (which, if used to swap gender, has a permanent duration).

Hmm. Looking over the polymorph subschool, there really is a missing niche for a greater duration version of Alter self, isn't there? Well...

Wellllll...

Spoiler:
I mocked up a 1st-level version of a physical disguise self ("skindance") as the base for the skindancers' shapeshifting ability in Wayfinder #7. You might also look at the Change Shape ability, which I suggesting during Dreamscarred's playtesting, of the menteur (elan rogue archetype) in Ultimate Psionics (pg #322, not on the PFSRD, sorry). It's built off the minor metamorphosis psionic power, and could easily be converted to being ki powered.

Luthorne (and Zelgadas, or whomever), I still have a Google Docs copy of a psychic rogue archetype for Vudran vishkanyas that didn't make the cut for another Wayfinder issue. Looking back, I'd take another pass at finetuning some of the mechanics and tweaking the flavor a bit. Still, PM me if you want to take a look at it.


Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Moskau wrote:
I was hoping closer to a goo girl, but that'll do.

That's basically it. Or, well, something between a goo girl and Odo from Deep Space 9.

Edit: Hence the bucket joke earlier.

Although you probably have clear mechanics and influences already in mind for this race, you might also check out the

Spoiler:
Arcturian
in Dan O'Bannon and Moebius' The Long Tomorrow graphic novel, especially as the book predates Odo by decades. If your local library doesn't have a copy, you can Google for images, but some of the art is NSFW (nudity, rather tame actually). Bonus: This may be the inspiration for the alien race briefly joked about by the Colonial Marines aboard the Sulaco in Cameron's Aliens (O'Bannon wrote the first Alien film.)

I'll shut up now. :)

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This thread is getting a little dry. Let's see if we can get the juices flowing.

Anyone who is at an iconic/design level, what are you thinking about doing?


Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Luthorne wrote:


There is, of course, the elixir of sex shift, but that is somewhat expensive - especially if you intend to swap back and forth to see which you prefer - and permanent.
Well, it isn't cheap, but one of the magic items we present is called a "Ring of Gender Fluidity" which completely solves the issue you describe, allowing the wearer to adjust their gender at will. But yeah, it isn't cheap....

It shouldn't be all that expensive. Alter Self can swap gender and so a lot more so it should be substantially cheaper than a continuous version of Alter Self.


I was thinking of an occultist archetype that uses jewelry and other clothing accessories to (not really sure how this next part should be worded) become more proficient in the certain aspects of sexual encounters that the individuals (or perhaps societies those people were a member of) were knowledgeable about/skilled in. I admit, a rough idea at best.

I was also thinking of some sort of fey critter (fey seems plausible) that would try to lure people into encounters so they can attempt to steal or access memories. Another rough idea, I know.


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Relevant recent addition. Heroes of the High Court has choker for 2,400 gp that lets you pick one of the following once per day for twenty-four hours:
- Adopt physical characteristics of a different gender.
- Become up to 10% taller or shorter.
- Become up to 10% thinner or heavier.
- Become up to 10 years older or younger.
The only mechanical benefit is +2 to disguise.

Might help with pricing comparisons?


Loren Pechtel wrote:
It shouldn't be all that expensive. Alter Self can swap gender and so a lot more so it should be substantially cheaper than a continuous version of Alter Self.

The Ring is 12,000 gp. It allows changes at will while worn, and allows any variation of primary and secondary characteristics. It also works reproductively, meaning that pregnancy or impregnation can occur (although if you don't usually have the parts to carry a child, you had better keep the ring on and avoid change that part until after giving birth lest very bad things happen).

So not terribly expensive, but out of the price range of low-level characters and all but the wealthiest NPCs.

QuidEst wrote:

Relevant recent addition. Heroes of the High Court has choker for 2,400 gp that lets you pick one of the following once per day for twenty-four hours:

- Adopt physical characteristics of a different gender.
- Become up to 10% taller or shorter.
- Become up to 10% thinner or heavier.
- Become up to 10 years older or younger.
The only mechanical benefit is +2 to disguise.

Might help with pricing comparisons?

That's neat. No, I hadn't seen that. And yeah, that would certainly be very useful for a character on a budget.


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Wraithguard wrote:

I was thinking of an occultist archetype that uses jewelry and other clothing accessories to (not really sure how this next part should be worded) become more proficient in the certain aspects of sexual encounters that the individuals (or perhaps societies those people were a member of) were knowledgeable about/skilled in. I admit, a rough idea at best.

I was also thinking of some sort of fey critter (fey seems plausible) that would try to lure people into encounters so they can attempt to steal or access memories. Another rough idea, I know.

Rough but interesting. I like the idea of learning how to seduce someone from their jewelry. That could certainly be the basis for an archetype. Maybe something with sleigh of hand to touch the jewelry while it is still being worn? That might synergize well with Discovery checks....

If you want to brainstorm on some of this stuff, feel free to do so here or PM me if you want any one-on-one. Rysky and I spent a while today doing some brainstorming on Occult archetypes and spells.


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Moskau wrote:
Anyone who is at an iconic/design level, what are you thinking about doing?

A character who certainly has no problems with sex- but who doesn't, on the face of her, play into the book's themes. I'll get more precise when I have more of a handle on what's going on, but in keeping with the promising stuff I'm hearing from the team in this thread, I want someone who can sort of demonstrate how this book could be used in a "vanilla" campaign...

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Cole Deschain wrote:
Moskau wrote:
Anyone who is at an iconic/design level, what are you thinking about doing?
A character who certainly has no problems with sex- but who doesn't, on the face of her, play into the book's themes. I'll get more precise when I have more of a handle on what's going on, but in keeping with the promising stuff I'm hearing from the team in this thread, I want someone who can sort of demonstrate how this book could be used in a "vanilla" campaign...

Right. In a similar vein, I am working on a villainous iconic that can insert topics from this book into a campaign, but really comes alive the more you embrace it.

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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Wraithguard wrote:

I was thinking of an occultist archetype that uses jewelry and other clothing accessories to (not really sure how this next part should be worded) become more proficient in the certain aspects of sexual encounters that the individuals (or perhaps societies those people were a member of) were knowledgeable about/skilled in. I admit, a rough idea at best.

I was also thinking of some sort of fey critter (fey seems plausible) that would try to lure people into encounters so they can attempt to steal or access memories. Another rough idea, I know.

Rough but interesting. I like the idea of learning how to seduce someone from their jewelry. That could certainly be the basis for an archetype. Maybe something with sleigh of hand to touch the jewelry while it is still being worn? That might synergize well with Discovery checks....

If you want to brainstorm on some of this stuff, feel free to do so here or PM me if you want any one-on-one. Rysky and I spent a while today doing some brainstorming on Occult archetypes and spells.

Thank you for all your help, I appreciate it.


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Time for another stretch goal tease!

For Inquisitors, we have two new inquisitions and the Champion of Love archetype.

The Emotion inquisition allows the inquisitor to control her own emotions as well as the emotions of others.

The Flagellation inquisition grants the inquisitor a whip made of pure divine energy to punish foes and heal allies.

The Champion of Love gives up ranged weaponry to gain proficiency with whip-like weapons. The champion of love also gains a new judgement that erodes her foe's ability to fight or resist her.

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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:

Time for]] anot

The Flagellation inquisition grants the inquisitor a whip made of pure divine energy to punish foes and heal allies.

The Champion of Love gives up ranged weaponry to gain proficiency with whip-like weapons. The champion of love also gains a new judgement that erodes her foe's ability to fight or resist her.

Guh....

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Ooh, the flagellation one sounds awesome.


Moskau wrote:
Guh....

I'm... not sure how to respond to that.

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Shhh... Don't ruin the moment.

Seriously though, it's a great concept for the class. It makes me think of an inquisitor from the Pathfinder Tales series. My only critique is the champion of love name; it seems more paladin than inquisitor.

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Yeah, Champion of Love seems more noble and nice, whereas what the archetype is described as seems more naughty :3

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Given that judgement, I might call it the Heartbreaker. ;D

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