[Misfit Studios] The Book of Passion Kickstarter for 3.75E is live!


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Bardess wrote:
The example hybrid races in the pregnancy chapter are also playable: dwelves, half-ogres, half-satyrs, and dragonkin (advanced race).

But now you have to answer the age-old question: do female dragonborn dragonkin have boobs?

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Has any thought been given for a reward tier inbetween Excetional Lover ($150) and Passion's Apprentice ($600)*, like suggest an archetype or additional art?

*Is very, very tempting, but I probably can't get away with it -_-


Alzrius wrote:
Bardess wrote:
The example hybrid races in the pregnancy chapter are also playable: dwelves, half-ogres, half-satyrs, and dragonkin (advanced race).
But now you have to answer the age-old question: do female dragonborn dragonkin have boobs?

Dragonkin have two shapes, human(oid) and reptilian; so, yes and no.


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Rysky wrote:

Has any thought been given for a reward tier inbetween Excetional Lover ($150) and Passion's Apprentice ($600)*, like suggest an archetype or additional art?

*Is very, very tempting, but I probably can't get away with it -_-

Let's see what the Empress Medusa thinks about it.

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Bardess wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Has any thought been given for a reward tier inbetween Excetional Lover ($150) and Passion's Apprentice ($600)*, like suggest an archetype or additional art?

*Is very, very tempting, but I probably can't get away with it -_-

Let's see what the Empress Medusa thinks about it.

Ooooooo...


Isabelle Lee wrote:
Any chance you have space for a somewhat-more-than-aspiring freelancer? I might have some free time coming up. ^_^
Yazi wrote:
I do have a portfolio :3

Would it be possible to provide a bit more context about what you are asking/interesting in doing?

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Rysky wrote:

Has any thought been given for a reward tier inbetween Excetional Lover ($150) and Passion's Apprentice ($600)*, like suggest an archetype or additional art?

*Is very, very tempting, but I probably can't get away with it -_-

Yes, we were asking backers for tier suggestions.

What numbers do you have in mind? What would it be specifically? We are willing to listen. We want your money. :)

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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Isabelle Lee wrote:
Any chance you have space for a somewhat-more-than-aspiring freelancer? I might have some free time coming up. ^_^
Yazi wrote:
I do have a portfolio :3
Would it be possible to provide a bit more context about what you are asking/interesting in doing?

Sorry, the Yazi post was in reference to what character to put forth as an iconic, and I already had commissions done of her :3


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What about signed copies of the print book? Basically the same as what's at the "Lusty Lover" tier now, but for say $10 more?

I'm just guessing, I have no idea if that's a good idea or not.

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Rysky wrote:

Has any thought been given for a reward tier inbetween Excetional Lover ($150) and Passion's Apprentice ($600)*, like suggest an archetype or additional art?

*Is very, very tempting, but I probably can't get away with it -_-

Yes, we were asking backers for tier suggestions.

What numbers do you have in mind? What would it be specifically? We are willing to listen. We want your money. :)

okies then. Hmm,

I don't know how you've got it set up for the Iconics art and we're they're placed in relation to how the rest of the book will be set up, but maybe a limited option for a chapter opener? Oooo or an art gallery in the back? Don't know how viable that would be.

Hmm, something around the $300 range? Don't know if that's probably undershooting.

Right now I'm guessing it's character sheet style pinups and action shots showing off the archetypes and using various equipment and magic items.

What about 2 different $200 tiers for a suggest a bestiery creature or archetype and a suggest an item/spell/or 2 of one?

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Alzrius wrote:

What about signed copies of the print book? Basically the same as what's at the "Lusty Lover" tier now, but for say $10 more?

I'm just guessing, I have no idea if that's a good idea or not.

Well, considering one of our authors is in Italy, that can be a problem. Even sending book plates across the pond for Margherita's signature would be expensive.

I'm likely the only one who'd be able to sign, since the books would be sent to me. My group is spread out across the world (all the better for my plan of world domination to succeed, of course).

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We just need 24 backers to unlock an exclusive PDF, folks. Surely, you know 24 people who are willing to throw in $1?


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Actually, 23.


Rysky wrote:
stormcrow27 wrote:
And as for bikini armor, PF also has whatever archetype that they spun up for Red Sonja in Worldscape.

Cool archetype, has nothing to do with bikini armor though. When wearing no armor they get add their CHA to their AC, plus they get Dodge bonuses as well. There's also the Warlord archetype from the same line which does something similar. Erik Mona has said the Worldscape could be descsribed as the Unarmored Martial book (or something to that effect).

For 3pp there's the awesome Berserker archetype for Barbarians which add their CON to AC while Raging and get fortification and Fast Healing.

It's pretty much the default archetype for your metal underpants or furry underwear wearing warrior of pulps of old (or comics of new). As for bikini armor itself, that's been stated out many, many, many times in 3.5 and others, so it would be pretty easy to put it back in. The clothing or robe slot exchanged for bracers as a homebrew is the first way I can think of it, or even just glamered armor. Magic can take care of the massive pain issue of wearing a steel or mithril brassiere and loincloth/etc, because without some comfort, that's going to hurt a ton. Though an oracle, shaman, or barbarian archetype that uses woad or its equivalent/war paint etc would be a nice choice as well for more ancient campaigns.


And post lag. anyway, I'll be able to support this when Friday paycheck rolls around.

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Just to point out, you are only charged when the Kickstarter ends and only if it is successful, you aren't charged anything when you pledge :3


Rysky wrote:
Just to point out, you are only charged when the Kickstarter ends and only if it is successful, you aren't charged anything when you pledge :3

Thanks, Rysky. I want to make sure I remember to pledge because being an old man in IT makes me only have so much long term retention available.


Christina Stiles wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Has any thought been given for a reward tier inbetween Excetional Lover ($150) and Passion's Apprentice ($600)*, like suggest an archetype or additional art?

*Is very, very tempting, but I probably can't get away with it -_-

Yes, we were asking backers for tier suggestions.

What numbers do you have in mind? What would it be specifically? We are willing to listen. We want your money. :)

I could go another $100 for two iconic plus art...

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stormcrow27 wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Just to point out, you are only charged when the Kickstarter ends and only if it is successful, you aren't charged anything when you pledge :3
Thanks, Rysky. I want to make sure I remember to pledge because being an old man in IT makes me only have so much long term retention available.

Aw,

*hugs*


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How many iconics are you guys prepared to field?

We gamers are a vain bunch, after all, and that tier seems fairly popular...


Another question about the iconics...

I am guessing we can not use the deities from the PF core book?

If not is there ditties in this book that could be plugged in place of Calistria and Shelyn?


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As a general rule of thumb, any deity Paizo's published that they own the Intellectual Property for (i.e. pretty much all of them that aren't already in the public domain) are off-limits for something like this unless they specifically get a license allowing it (which is... unlikely, to say the least). Of course, that doesn't stop anyone from using an appropriately generic pseudonym, such as the "Goddess of Lust" or "Goddess of Love".


John Kretzer wrote:

Another question about the iconics...

I am guessing we can not use the deities from the PF core book?

That is correct. No paizo deities allowed. Sorry.

John Kretzer wrote:


If not is there ditties in this book that could be plugged in place of Calistria and Shelyn?

Yes, quite a few actually! We have a whole chapter on that.

Would you prefer a real world pantheon (such as Greek, Egyptian, Norse, or Celtic) or an Empyreal Lord (well Lady)?

One of the three upcoming previews will feature one of our Empyreal Lords, so check her out.


Rysky wrote:
You can do it that way for a permanent harem, yes. But that's a LOT to do, a Summon Succubi Harem for 1 night type spell would be neat, and it's not like there's not a precedent for spells that summon specific creatures that function slightly differently from normal summon spells.

Or how about a spell that shields you from sex-based attacks? (Things like a succubus' level-draining kiss etc.)


Alzrius wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
Put me up for a snog with the Empress over taking the holy avenger any day. Seriously, it's a whack situation, it will have far-reaching consequences, it ties my character into the world, it makes an NPC more interesting in the campaign. What was the alternative again? A better chance to hit stuff?
Sure, and that sounds great. But on the other hand, a lot of players - I'd be willing to bet the majority - would see it differently: "One is a storytelling option for a campaign that might end soon, and my PC could die anyway which would diminish my investment in that plot-thread, and besides this won't come into play for ages of in-game time. The alternative bumps up my character's chances of survival and ability to contribute to the group by a large amount, and it does it right now."

As I see it--a snog with the Empress as a reward almost certainly is a one-time benefit. The sword is a long term benefit.

It's equivalent to the choice between a consumable item and a permanent item.

(Now, if instead the Empress actually wanted the PC things could be very different. An ongoing relationship with the Empress is more akin to the permanent item.)


John Kretzer wrote:
Also if you defeat a opponent by one means...and later try to defeat it again unless it has gained in power through level or circumstances or etc. You don't get exp for the encounter again.

No XP for the encounter again, correct.

No XP for the creature again, usually but not always.

IIRC I gave XP for the same creature three times. The PCs defeated it without killing it, XP awarded.

Another mission, I decided to have some fun and used the same distinctive creature as a minion of the new BBEG. Bypassed. XP without killing.

Still another mission, this time they killed it.


Loren Pechtel wrote:
Rysky wrote:
You can do it that way for a permanent harem, yes. But that's a LOT to do, a Summon Succubi Harem for 1 night type spell would be neat, and it's not like there's not a precedent for spells that summon specific creatures that function slightly differently from normal summon spells.
Or how about a spell that shields you from sex-based attacks? (Things like a succubus' level-draining kiss etc.)

One revelation of the Passion Mystery does just that.

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20 backers to go!

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Also, after playing Nioh and reading up on them I wouldn't mind seeing the Mujina show up in this.

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*pokes thread*

What are some of the Bestiary creatures like?

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John Kretzer wrote:
Christina Stiles wrote:
Rysky wrote:

Has any thought been given for a reward tier inbetween Excetional Lover ($150) and Passion's Apprentice ($600)*, like suggest an archetype or additional art?

*Is very, very tempting, but I probably can't get away with it -_-

Yes, we were asking backers for tier suggestions.

What numbers do you have in mind? What would it be specifically? We are willing to listen. We want your money. :)

I could go another $100 for two iconic plus art...

We are in discussion on new backer tiers, that get your more publishing opportunities, so we absolutely appreciate this suggestion!

Silver Crusade

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*anticipation intensifies*


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A question about the content of the stretch goals (I really hope they fund!): I notice that they include Mythic content - any hints you can drop about what that looks like?


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Christina Stiles wrote:
...We'd love to have you on board! Note these are opportunities for would-be freelancers to prove their chops, too. I'll have a lot of projects going on in the future, and I'm always looking to give good writers a path toward publication dreams.
Hmmm...

AMBY AMBY AMBY AMBY AMBY


Rysky wrote:
What are some of the Bestiary creatures like?

Well, again, we have to unlock that, but....

On the enemy side, we have additional passion-themed outsiders of various types - demon, devil, oni, qlippoth, protean, inevitable, etc.

We also have some interesting undead of both the mindless and intelligent varieties. One of those is a undead trope so common in fantasy, I'm shocked no one has ever written it up before.

We touched a bit on monster types and races earlier.

On the ally side, assuming you are running a good aligned party anyway, we have angels, archons, aghathons, and some other good aligned passion creatures. My one of my personal favorites is a CR 7 angel that is designed as the good mirror to a succubus (and the description implies that the first succubus may have been a fallen version of one of these angels).

Another favorite from that section is the archon type that can disguise itself as a devil and infiltrate hell to seduce devils to the side of goodness or spy on devil activity and report back.


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I have never been so excited to give someone money before.

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Ah, my apologies, I thought the Bestiary was included in the vanilla product >_<

Not sure what to think of the angel-bus, but the disguise Archon sounds interesting.


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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
On the ally side, assuming you are running a good aligned party anyway, we have angels, archons, aghathons, and some other good aligned passion creatures.

Some of these have to be azatas; the original Mysteries of Passion supplement had two anthropomorphic characters kissing right on the cover.

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Alzrius wrote:
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
On the ally side, assuming you are running a good aligned party anyway, we have angels, archons, aghathons, and some other good aligned passion creatures.
Some of these have to be azatas; the original Mysteries of Passion supplement had two anthropomorphic characters kissing right on the cover.

?

I think you mean Agathion. (Granted I don't know what another product has in it to do with what's required to have in this one)


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Rysky wrote:
Alzrius wrote:
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
On the ally side, assuming you are running a good aligned party anyway, we have angels, archons, aghathons, and some other good aligned passion creatures.
Some of these have to be azatas; the original Mysteries of Passion supplement had two anthropomorphic characters kissing right on the cover.

?

I think you mean Agathion. (Granted I don't know what another product has in it to do with what's required to have in this one)

Whoops, I did; that's what comes from still thinking of them as "guardinals" and "eladrin," rather than updating my thinking to match the new names.

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Alzrius wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alzrius wrote:
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
On the ally side, assuming you are running a good aligned party anyway, we have angels, archons, aghathons, and some other good aligned passion creatures.
Some of these have to be azatas; the original Mysteries of Passion supplement had two anthropomorphic characters kissing right on the cover.

?

I think you mean Agathion. (Granted I don't know what another product has in it to do with what's required to have in this one)

Whoops, I did; that's what comes from still thinking of them as "guardinals" and "eladrin," rather than updating my thinking to match the new names.

Doesn't help matters any that all 4 main Celestials' names start with an A -_-


Moskau wrote:
I want to say one is an ooze and the other plant?

Sorry - I completely missed this reply! I would have responded to you much sooner otherwise.

And yes! Or, rather, a half-ooze and a half-plant.

Both are considered humanoid type, and both are affected by spells and abilities that target humanoids, but both have traits of the other type as well. The plant-like humanoids can photosynthesize and the ooze-like humanoids can shapeshift into goo to move through tight spaces.

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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
and the ooze-like humanoids can shapeshift into goo to move through tight spaces.

(ФwФ)

Dark Archive

I was hoping closer to a goo girl, but that'll do.

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Who says that's not what we're getting?


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So...is there a tentacle monster in there somewhere? I mean, you did say you have an oni monster, after all.


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Moskau wrote:
I was hoping closer to a goo girl, but that'll do.

That's basically it. Or, well, something between a goo girl and Odo from Deep Space 9.

Edit: Hence the bucket joke earlier.


Alzrius wrote:
So...is there a tentacle monster in there somewhere? I mean, you did say you have an oni monster, after all.

There are several, at varying levels of friendliness.

The oni is not one of them, however, since oni tend to be shaped like monstrous humanoids.


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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Alzrius wrote:
So...is there a tentacle monster in there somewhere? I mean, you did say you have an oni monster, after all.
There are several, at varying levels of friendliness.

Interesting, and impressive!

One other thing I've noticed is that, while the book says that it might have mythic and occult support as stretch goals, there's no mention (on the KS page or in this thread that I found on a quick check) of any of the Intrigue rules, despite how much of a natural fit those seem to be.

To what extent (if any) will those be utilized in TBoP?

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