[Misfit Studios] The Book of Passion Kickstarter for 3.75E is live!


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Rysky wrote:
Moskau wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Really liking the art so far.
Me too, which is why I pledged for an iconic.

Same ^w^

That Elf/Drow pick is absolutely GORGEOUS.

Also, in case you need some more artists if this does well I know of a couple :3

I'm happy to talk to other artists. Pm me with a link to your/their work. Peter Bradley did the Amazons and drow. He mainly works for Troll Lord Games. I'm licensing those pics. They are available as prints from his Ravenchilde.com site. He is doing new art for the project, too. He worked on Rogue Mage and Strange Brew with us.

The Exchange

I have a lot of art planned for this book. Thanks to Christina Stiles for tapping me to draw the cover!

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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Rysky wrote:
There wouldn't happen to be a lady/lad of negotiable attention archetype for the Vigilante that's very good at gleaming information from patrons would there? Or more talents (for any class really) like Companion to the Lonely, where you get buffs for after moments of intimacy?

Well, since the book is currently limited to Core classes, there won't be any Vigilante support - at least not until we hit some stretch goals.

That said, there are Core class archetypes that do what you're describing.

Yay!

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Christina Stiles wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Moskau wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Really liking the art so far.
Me too, which is why I pledged for an iconic.

Same ^w^

That Elf/Drow pick is absolutely GORGEOUS.

Also, in case you need some more artists if this does well I know of a couple :3

I'm happy to talk to other artists. Pm me with a link to your/their work. Peter Bradley did the Amazons and drow. He mainly works for Troll Lord Games. I'm licensing those pics. They are available as prints from his Ravenchilde.com site. He is doing new art for the project, too. He worked on Rogue Mage and Strange Brew with us.

Will do!

Grand Lodge

By claiming it's "3.75e" indirectly refers to Pathfinder. Given the idea that it's suppose to be compatible with it, how is this going to work with the PF Compatible OGL licenses? Or is this going to be closer to a True20 OGL licenses or just regular OGL.
Can you claim to be compatible by skirting around it with a different name even though it's using the ruleset?

Let me rephrase, Can you publish a book that is an extension of and implies that it uses the rules of pathfinder without using the compatibility licenses?

Not be a stickler, but this is in the Pathfinder compatible section, even though I know it quote "is" using the ruleset, but won't make it past the agreement.
Should this actually be in the "Third-Party Pathfinder RPG Products" section of the board or should it be moved to another section?

*not trying to rustle feathers, just want the project to be compliant and legal with OGL standards since it can't technically be PF Comp
*already a backer*


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The problem is with the Pathfinder Compatibility License, rather than any OGL stuff, which is why they're very carefully not claiming it's Pathfinder compatible (though this forum thread is cutting it a bit fine, I suspect). PCL says no "adult themes" and this book is absolutely "adult themed", but I'm also pretty sure that being indirect about it is okay as long as they never (EVER) directly indicate Pathfinder Compatible or display the Pathfinder Compatibility logo.

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Chemlak wrote:
The problem is with the Pathfinder Compatibility License, rather than any OGL stuff, which is why they're very carefully not claiming it's Pathfinder compatible (though this forum thread is cutting it a bit fine, I suspect). PCL says no "adult themes" and this book is absolutely "adult themed", but I'm also pretty sure that being indirect about it is okay as long as they never (EVER) directly indicate Pathfinder Compatible or display the Pathfinder Compatibility logo.

And I get that part.

But can a publisher use the rule set and not have the PFC licenses associated with the book (regardless of the theme)?
I'm curious how they are going to list the OGL.

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GarnathFrostmantle wrote:
Chemlak wrote:
The problem is with the Pathfinder Compatibility License, rather than any OGL stuff, which is why they're very carefully not claiming it's Pathfinder compatible (though this forum thread is cutting it a bit fine, I suspect). PCL says no "adult themes" and this book is absolutely "adult themed", but I'm also pretty sure that being indirect about it is okay as long as they never (EVER) directly indicate Pathfinder Compatible or display the Pathfinder Compatibility logo.

And I get that part.

But can a publisher use the rule set and not have the PFC licenses associated with the book (regardless of the theme)?
I'm curious how they are going to list the OGL.

Yes, because the rules are OGL themselves. We can list in Section 15 what books we pulled from--we have to to be compliant with the OGL license. We just cannot claim compatibility or use the logo. We are very aware of what we cannot do. Thus OGL 3.75 is our claim for rules.


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Daww, I remember when this had its formative roots in the Homebrew section.

Well done Will and Margherita for finding a formal venue! Wishing you guys all the best on the Kickstarter!!


On all that legal stuff...

I know basically nothing about the legalities (I'm new to actually publishing things for money and not for fun on forums). However, I seem to recall that something similar happened with the Book of Erotic Fantasy.

If I remember the story right, the BoEF was written by Wizards of the Coast staff with the intent of being published as an official D&D product - until they ran into a nearly identical legal bump and had to go third party.

Now, that story is complete hearsay - I have no idea if it is true or not, but I remember being told that because I noticed that the author of the BoEF was a Wizards of the Coast employee and commented on it to a friend (who then told me the story above).

Again, no idea if it is accurate or even really the same legal bump, but if both are true... well, I guess we really are following in the Book of Erotic Fantasy's footsteps.

That makes me weirdly proud.


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Daww, I remember when this had its formative roots in the Homebrew section.

Well done Will and Margherita for finding a formal venue! Wishing you guys all the best on the Kickstarter!!

Thanks!

We were just saying in an interview yesterday talking about how Margherita and I met in that thread! Ah, memories.

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30.1% in just under 24 hours. I may have underestimated interest.

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Yay!

Come on 69.9% more!

Dark Archive

Hehehehehehe


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you dont need that lovely succubus to tempt me for this the moument ı have money i am pledging for pdf

Silver Crusade

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Don't need to but we're doing it anyway!

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Thanks for all the interest, folks. More news up today on something that we want to do as a stretch goal. Plus, a little something extra from Will and Margherita.

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Ok, 100 backers get EVERY backer a free Impassioned Talented Adventurer exclusive from Margherita Tromontano! I'll have a Talented Adventurer line coming out with Rogue Genius Games that Will Wells and Margherita pulled together as authors and developers. The exclusive will take a sneak peek into the sex lives of the characters and use rules material from The Book of Passion. These versions will not be for sale elsewhere, though the normal ones will.

I've also added an Easy Lover level for those not wanting to spend more than $10 on a b&w version of the final book.

Please help us spread the word!

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Yay!

Will do!

Dark Archive

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Spreading the word as well.

Silver Crusade

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(Bumping the thread... hehe, bumping...)

Can I ask more about archetypes, please?

Also what are the chances of there being feats for when around/protecting your loved ones?


Looks like the thread got moved out of Third Party PF Compatible. Might get more eyes on it this way!


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Rysky wrote:

(Bumping the thread... hehe, bumping...)

Can I ask more about archetypes, please?

Also what are the chances of there being feats for when around/protecting your loved ones?

Among the core class archetypes:

Stilnovista (bard): love is divine and your beloved is an angel- sometimes literally!
Sacred Prostitute (Cleric): divine healing takes many forms!
Breeder (Druid): who says cows and horses can't breed together?
Kundalini (Monk): beware the power of Tantra!
Defender/Liberator (Paladin): paladins of love are not always lawful.
Streetwalker (Rogue): she does it for money. And informations.

Marriage Feats (a new feat type) allow expanded synergy with your beloved(s).

Silver Crusade

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Bardess wrote:
Rysky wrote:

(Bumping the thread... hehe, bumping...)

Can I ask more about archetypes, please?

Also what are the chances of there being feats for when around/protecting your loved ones?

Among the core class archetypes:

Stilnovista (bard): love is divine and your beloved is an angel- sometimes literally!
Sacred Prostitute (Cleric): divine healing takes many forms!
Breeder (Druid): who says cows and horses can't breed together?
Kundalini (Monk): beware the power of Tantra!
Defender/Liberator (Paladin): paladins of love are not always lawful.
Streetwalker (rogue): she does it for money. And informations.

Marriage Feats (a new feat type) allow expanded synergy with your beloved(s).

YAY!


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Come to our new Facebook page for more chats and gossip!

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Bardess wrote:


Stilnovista (bard): love is divine and your beloved is an angel- sometimes literally!

Funny enough, I have a skald like this. Only just built a lot more convoluted and probably a bit more heavy metal.


I am interested....just have to wait for my tax return...

I love the drow elf artwork.

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John Kretzer wrote:

I am interested....just have to wait for my tax return...

I love the drow elf artwork.

You won't be charged until it ends. You can always cancel if you need to.

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Christina Stiles wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:

I am interested....just have to wait for my tax return...

I love the drow elf artwork.

You won't be charged until it ends. You can always cancel if you need to.

*nods*

This is what I do.

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I suppose I'll have to check my budget. ^_^

It's going to be tight, but if I stretch, I might be able to fit it in. Hopefully it isn't too much for me to handle.

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Thankies, Kali. Every little bit helps :3

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Thanks to all who have pledged and who are considering it. I am really falling in love (or is it lust?) with this project.


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Moskau wrote:
Thanks to all who have pledged and who are considering it. I am really falling in love (or is it lust?) with this project.

So you would say you are Passionate about the project, then? **rimshot**

And, to answer your question, this book is about plenty of both.


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Bardess wrote:
Come to our new Facebook page for more chats and gossip!

Done. Looking forward to discussing this with folks!


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Kalindlara wrote:

I suppose I'll have to check my budget. ^_^

It's going to be tight, but if I stretch, I might be able to fit it in. Hopefully it isn't too much for me to handle.

Must...

Resist...

Obvious...

Comments...

FAILS

I think you'll be satisfied with whatever comes to you from this, and expect you'll find some of it leaves you breathless.

Still, it's going to take some time, which should help heighten the anticipation and the release will be... climactic.

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>_>

I'm kicking myself for not catching that, but I'm in serious excited Kickstarter mode right now.


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I caught it, but Chemlak, that brought a tear to my eye and I had to suppress a laugh. Well done.

Dark Archive

Currently at 51 backers.

Just missed my chance to do my drunken Bon Jovi singing.

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Moskau wrote:

Currently at 51 backers.

Just missed my chance to do my drunken Bon Jovi singing.

You can still do it when we hit the half funded mark!

Dark Archive

Rysky wrote:
Moskau wrote:

Currently at 51 backers.

Just missed my chance to do my drunken Bon Jovi singing.

You can still do it when we hit the half funded mark!

True, but since I'm going to be in the middle of an accelerated move for the next week and a half, I won't have as much time to dedicate to stalking the kickstarter page...or drinking outside of airports for that matter.

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Moskau wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Moskau wrote:

Currently at 51 backers.

Just missed my chance to do my drunken Bon Jovi singing.

You can still do it when we hit the half funded mark!
True, but since I'm going to be in the middle of an accelerated move for the next week and a half, I won't have as much time to dedicate to stalking the kickstarter page...or drinking outside of airports for that matter.

Ah, okies.

Hope everything goes smoothly for you!

Dark Archive

Thanks. The better half just got a job at Apple, so they're handling most of the relocation for us. It's just the timetable is a bit rough.

Silver Crusade

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Oh nice. Take care though!


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Ah, darn. I refuse to use Facebook (I really don't like them, as a company) so it's a shame there's no way to see the preview artwork otherwise.

But at least I get to be surprised when the book comes out!

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Alzrius wrote:

Ah, darn. I refuse to use Facebook (I really don't like them, as a company) so it's a shame there's no way to see the preview artwork otherwise.

But at least I get to be surprised when the book comes out!

The non-erotic artwork will be previewed through updates. I just posted a beautiful picture that Peter Bradley did.

When we get to the files for commenting for those backers, we will have a locked down website and can post some things there to preview, as well.

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Will and Margherita were recently interviewed about the book, too. Check it out.


Looks good. I'm on board.

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Christina Stiles wrote:
Alzrius wrote:

Ah, darn. I refuse to use Facebook (I really don't like them, as a company) so it's a shame there's no way to see the preview artwork otherwise.

But at least I get to be surprised when the book comes out!

The non-erotic artwork will be previewed through updates. I just posted a beautiful picture that Peter Bradley did.

When we get to the files for commenting for those backers, we will have a locked down website and can post some things there to preview, as well.

Yay!


Alzrius wrote:

Ah, darn. I refuse to use Facebook (I really don't like them, as a company) so it's a shame there's no way to see the preview artwork otherwise.

But at least I get to be surprised when the book comes out!

I know your pain. I too had avoided facebook... until this project began. Since I need to answer questions, I had to join - for the greater good.

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Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
Alzrius wrote:

Ah, darn. I refuse to use Facebook (I really don't like them, as a company) so it's a shame there's no way to see the preview artwork otherwise.

But at least I get to be surprised when the book comes out!

I know your pain. I too had avoided facebook... until this project began. Since I need to answer questions, I had to join - for the greater good.

We thank you for your sacrifice.

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