crusaders flurry and pummeling charge

[Lady-J]

so normally pummeling charge is only useable via unarmed strikes however crusaders flurry allows you to flurry of blows with your deities favored weapon would that then allow you to pummeling charge with your deities favored weapon?

[James Risner]

Nice if you quoted both, I'd be able to reply on my cell.

[Lady-J]

crusaders flurry
You learned to use your deity’s favored weapon as part of your martial arts form.

Prerequisites: Channel energy class feature, flurry of blows class feature, Weapon Focus with your deity’s favored melee weapon.

Benefit: You can use your deity’s favored weapon as if it were a monk weapon.
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pummeling charge
Your charge ends with a mighty haymaker.

Prerequisite(s): Improved Unarmed Strike, Pummeling Style; base attack bonus +12, brawler level 8th, or monk level 8th.

Benefit: You can charge and make a full attack or flurry of blows at the end of your charge as part of the charge action. You can use Pummeling Charge in this way only if all of your attacks qualify for using Pummeling Style against a single target.

Normal: You cannot make a full attack on a charge.

[Alderic]

No, simply because pummeling style can only be used with unarmed attacks and all your attacks with pummeling charge must qualify for pummeling style.

[James Risner]

Think Alderic is right, but I can't look up Pummeling Style feat to check.

[Alderic]

Since I assume you have trouble following links atm, the relevant part of pummeling style

"This ability works only with unarmed strikes, no matter what other abilities you might possess."

and Pummeling Charge

"You can use Pummeling Charge in this way only if all of your attacks qualify for using Pummeling Style against a single target"

From these I say you can only use pummeling charge with unarmed strikes, even if you have things like crusader's flurry

[James Risner]

Yes then Pummeling Style is limited to unarmed so likewise all Pummeling Style feats in the path.

[Iff]

Indeed, it doesn't work. Crusader's Flurry makes the weapon count as a monk weapon. However, it's not counted as an unarmed strike. That means it doesn't qualify for Pummeling Charge. (And even if it were counted as an unarmed attack, Pummeling style would prevent it from working, because of the quoted clause: Only actual unarmed strikes, regardless of other abilities you might possess.)

[Kazumetsa Raijin]

They added the clause "This ability works only with unarmed strikes, no matter what other abilities you might possess." so that there would be no possible way to use anything but unarmed strikes with this ability. This was intentional.

Crusader's Flurry just allowed you to do a Flurry using your Deity's favored weapon, one not normally to flurry with. Essentially it just turns it into a "Monk" weapon.

[Lady-J]

ok ty now i know how to build my back up character