Most state legislatures, the bodies that decide how votes are cast/collected, are republican controlled.
Its true, but its still a solid, clear goal that appeals to the peoples love of convenience and if pushed through tends to up voter participation, even in off years. Oregon hovers around 70% registered voter participation because of it. It also bypasses a lot of the inconveniences that keep people from voting.
They could and have picked worse issues to campaign on.
I see we're still arguing about whether the Democratic party not being progressive enough led to the victory of the EVEN LESS PROGRESSIVE Republican party. And how is that going? :PWell, 20 pages ago they were arguing that the party was TOO PROGRESSIVE and that's why people went Republican. A lot has changed since then?
Different people left the Party for different reasons at different times. The South had been solidly Democratic because they were still holding grudges about the Abraham Lincoln thing. They left the party because Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, and they realized that the Party was actually standing up for those "damm n!$#+&s.". Flash forward a couple of decades, and Ronald Reagan crushes the Democratic Party not only in the Presidency but in major advances in Congress for a long time to come. Than enter from stage right Bill Clinton who with his triangulation strategy,4 decides to remake the Democrats as "Republican Lite", which promotes discontent from the Party's remaining liberal wing. Clinton brings in new sentencing guidelines, and his "workfare" model of welfare reform, both of which hit minorities and the poor, disproportinately.
So anybody from Georgia's 6th district? Looks like the repubs are spending top dollar on ads against the democrat candidate Jon Ossoff . Gotta admit I love their font at the end of the ad lol
Different people left the Party for different reasons at different times. The South had been solidly Democratic because they were still holding grudges about the Abraham Lincoln thing. They left the party because Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, and they realized that the Party was actually standing up for those "damm n#$@*+s.". Flash forward a couple of decades, and Ronald Reagan crushes the Democratic Party not only in the Presidency but in major advances in Congress for a long time to come. Than enter from stage right Bill Clinton who with his triangulation strategy,4 decides to remake the Democrats as "Republican Lite", which promotes discontent from the Party's remaining liberal wing. Clinton brings in new sentencing guidelines, and his "workfare" model of welfare reform, both of which hit minorities and the poor, disproportinately.I see we're still arguing about whether the Democratic party not being progressive enough led to the victory of the EVEN LESS PROGRESSIVE Republican party. And how is that going? :PWell, 20 pages ago they were arguing that the party was TOO PROGRESSIVE and that's why people went Republican. A lot has changed since then?
I was talking about this thread, not the history of the United States. I didn't say "20 years ago"... I said "20 pages" ago.
Unless this thread is a lot older than I think it is.
Different people left the Party for different reasons at different times. The South had been solidly Democratic because they were still holding grudges about the Abraham Lincoln thing. They left the party because Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, and they realized that the Party was actually standing up for those "damm n#$@*+s.". Flash forward a couple of decades, and Ronald Reagan crushes the Democratic Party not only in the Presidency but in major advances in Congress for a long time to come. Than enter from stage right Bill Clinton who with his triangulation strategy,4 decides to remake the Democrats as "Republican Lite", which promotes discontent from the Party's remaining liberal wing. Clinton brings in new sentencing guidelines, and his "workfare" model of welfare reform, both of which hit minorities and the poor, disproportinately.I see we're still arguing about whether the Democratic party not being progressive enough led to the victory of the EVEN LESS PROGRESSIVE Republican party. And how is that going? :PWell, 20 pages ago they were arguing that the party was TOO PROGRESSIVE and that's why people went Republican. A lot has changed since then?I was talking about this thread, not the history of the United States. I didn't say "20 years ago"... I said "20 pages" ago.
Unless this thread is a lot older than I think it is.
The Road To Trump didn't begin last week, last month, nor even the last election. It actually has been a process that predated the birth of most of the posters of this thread. Having lived through that process helps with the perspective.
So anybody from Georgia's 6th district? Looks like the repubs are spending top dollar on ads against the democrat candidate Jon Ossoff . Gotta admit I love their font at the end of the ad lol
OMG! That guy went to college at one point! And had some particularly nerdy interests and hobbies! TO SHAME!!!
The Road To Trump didn't begin last week, last month, nor even the last election. It actually has been a process that predated the birth of most of the posters of this thread. Having lived through that process helps with the perspective.Different people left the Party for different reasons at different times. The South had been solidly Democratic because they were still holding grudges about the Abraham Lincoln thing. They left the party because Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, and they realized that the Party was actually standing up for those "damm n#$@*+s.". Flash forward a couple of decades, and Ronald Reagan crushes the Democratic Party not only in the Presidency but in major advances in Congress for a long time to come. Than enter from stage right Bill Clinton who with his triangulation strategy,4 decides to remake the Democrats as "Republican Lite", which promotes discontent from the Party's remaining liberal wing. Clinton brings in new sentencing guidelines, and his "workfare" model of welfare reform, both of which hit minorities and the poor, disproportinately.I see we're still arguing about whether the Democratic party not being progressive enough led to the victory of the EVEN LESS PROGRESSIVE Republican party. And how is that going? :PWell, 20 pages ago they were arguing that the party was TOO PROGRESSIVE and that's why people went Republican. A lot has changed since then?I was talking about this thread, not the history of the United States. I didn't say "20 years ago"... I said "20 pages" ago.
Unless this thread is a lot older than I think it is.
It's really annoying that my professors assign the same due dates for things. We're not even that far into the semester, but everyone has something due today/tomorrow. My ethics paper on hate speech is done, but it's not the interesting one, but now that it and a slew of other assignments are out of the way I actually get to start the interesting one. Using a Dr. Seuss political cartoon to take me to Father Coughlin, from there I'm going to talk about Beauharnais and what changed between then and Skokie.
I mean, as long as we're hitting the reply button and not actually responding to the context of what the other person is saying....
Hee hee!
I liked it better before you added the explanatory sentence.
Was even composing my own non-sequitir reply about watching Zootopia over the weekend and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Hee hee!
I liked it better before you added the explanatory sentence.
Was even composing my own non-sequitir reply about watching Zootopia over the weekend and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Today in Small Group Communication, we were debating which project we wanted to do and at one point, everyone is like "Why don't we just pick whichever one Irontruth wants to do?" and I'm like "That's not the point of the class, we're supposed to work together to make decisions!"
Hee hee!
I liked it better before you added the explanatory sentence.
Was even composing my own non-sequitir reply about watching Zootopia over the weekend and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Trump and the assistant mayor do similarly textured hair...
They dont want to argue with you and are taking the path of maximum slackerage.
Yup, I was amused about it though. The class is literally about teaching us how to build effective group dynamics to lead to better, informed decisions... and my classmates think the best method is to just abdicate to me.
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What if they're right?They dont want to argue with you and are taking the path of maximum slackerage.Yup, I was amused about it though. The class is literally about teaching us how to build effective group dynamics to lead to better, informed decisions... and my classmates think the best method is to just abdicate to me.
I think the class should spend more time defining the contextual criteria of "best."
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They dont want to argue with you and are taking the path of maximum slackerage.Yup, I was amused about it though. The class is literally about teaching us how to build effective group dynamics to lead to better, informed decisions... and my classmates think the best method is to just abdicate to me.
Well you could always turn it around on them. I'm guessing you present yourself in a confident and opinionated manner so you appear like a natural leader. Take the role put upon you and lead them to the objective.
I think the class should spend more time defining the contextual criteria of "best."What if they're right?They dont want to argue with you and are taking the path of maximum slackerage.Yup, I was amused about it though. The class is literally about teaching us how to build effective group dynamics to lead to better, informed decisions... and my classmates think the best method is to just abdicate to me.
Agreed. Really, the decision isn't a big one in this case. The two projects are pretty much identical in form, the content is just slightly different.
Oddly enough, when I got involved in the campaign last year, I nabbed precinct vice-chair (one of Ellison's precincts btw) because no one else seemed to be volunteering. State convention delegate, same thing. There was competition for the national delegate, but I didn't want to do that anyways (getting ready for school at the time, apartment hunting, etc).
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I'm guessing you present yourself in a confident and opinionated manner so you appear like a natural leader.
Or, if no strong leader is present, the Bull Goose Loony runs things.
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In a way, I think this thread is pretty representative of the future of the Democratic party.
Sadly.
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I thought it was more representative of humanity...which is still kind of sad.
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Maybe for the rest of you.
I'm a goblin.
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I always thought goblins had more of a monarchy kind of government.
I knew I should of wiped out that goblin camp. never listen to the paladin.
I always thought Goblin was more about survival than rulership.
Racists. I am a paladin.
I always thought Goblin was more about survival than rulership.
True dat.
I think its more species-ist at that point. I don't think goblins and humans have very common ancestry. maybe even different genus or family even.
Racists. I am a paladin.
Interesting! So am I.
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You know I thought that paladin that said we should spare the goblin camp was awful short... and green.... AHA! he must of been sick.
No. In my entire career as a player character, I have yet to fill out a blank for "Species" on my character sheet.
Besides, all that "descent with modification" crap is for the birds. We were made by the barghests.
"Not quite sure what Lawful Good means, always ready to atone" is how I like to put it.
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The feeding frenzy continues?
4th March '17 AP article: Piranha swimming amidst the tea leaves
The Indivisible Playbook for mirroring the Tea Party, now donkey flavored!
CREDO Action: pay to fight The Donald, or The Man, or whomever
Edit & Tangent:
Beating up those who disagree with your politics continues to make a comeback it seems...
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Most jobs still don't get moved abroad. 9 out of 10 jobs lost in manufacturing are replaced by automation.
Right now 3.5 million people are employed as truck drivers. Out of 152 million total jobs, thats roughly 2.3%. Somewhere down the road, those jobs are going away, maybe not in 5 years, but within 20 years for sure. Those jobs aren't going over seas.
No on has an answer to this problem, but as long as the conversation is about "jobs going over seas," people will always feel lied to because no matter how much talk goes on about that issue, they're still going to lose their jobs.
Justice Democrats: all bets are off. “We’re not interested in unity,” said Cenk Uygur, the founder of Justice Democrats, a new organization that’s pledged to replace “every establishment politician” in Congress. “We can’t beat the Republicans unless we have good, honest, uncorrupted candidates.”
Interesting.
I've always been impressed by the ability of Americans, in general, to regroup and organize (even after having been severely kicked in the nuts).
If I was a corporate democrat I would closely watch this nascent "Justice Democrats" movement, and devise ways* to quietly murder it, just in case.
Rise, Americans ! Fight your corporate overlords :-) !
*perfectly legal** ways, of course
**"legal" is such a fuzzy concept. Ask a corporate lawyer.
I dunno...the Justice democrats could be a significant boon in solid blue states like NY or the West Coast. I question there ability to not be self defeating in other parts of the country however.
Of news this week, the most depressing bit relevant to this topic was definitely the democrat response to the Trump speech. That...seriously doesn't give me much confidence for the 2018 elections.
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And if I was a Republican I'd be quietly cheering on the "Justice Democrats" in hopes of the party tearing itself apart.
That reminds me of how the Democrats were (not so) quietly cheering for Trump in the republican primaries.
How did that work out for you?
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Most jobs still don't get moved abroad. 9 out of 10 jobs lost in manufacturing are replaced by automation.
Right now 3.5 million people are employed as truck drivers. Out of 152 million total jobs, thats roughly 2.3%. Somewhere down the road, those jobs are going away, maybe not in 5 years, but within 20 years for sure. Those jobs aren't going over seas.
No on has an answer to this problem, but as long as the conversation is about "jobs going over seas," people will always feel lied to because no matter how much talk goes on about that issue, they're still going to lose their jobs.
You are confusing two separate issues. Automation has been a major factor for two hundred years, and it generally had a net positive effect on overall employment and the economy as a whole.
Outsourcing has been a tremendous advantage to the wealthy, but terrible for the lower and middle class. Throw in a layer of illegal immigrants, and things haven't been this bad for the middle and lower classes in many years.
As long as Democrats fail to understand these issues, and fail to address the very real need for decent, well paid jobs, they are going to just keep failing as a party.
EDIT: Also, I call b&$@*+*& on the 9 out of 10 manufacturing jobs statistic. There are literally hundreds of thousands of employees working at a SINGLE Chinese factory doing high tech manufacturing. The idea that it was robots that replaced American workers is demonstratively false!
I like Bill Gates' suggestion: Every robot in a factory is taxed to help support a minimum income payment for the humans of that country.