Cory Stafford 29 |
If you take the ley line guardian archetype, you can get those spells with rings of spell knowledge, although they're a bit pricy and are treated as one level higher.
That is pretty cool, but it delays access to higher level spells which really ruins my plans for the dimensional agility tree of feats. I guess I'll have to shoot for arcanist instead.
UnArcaneElection |
Are you opposed to playing a 6/9 spellcasting, d8, 3/4 BAB Witch, with 2/3 Hex acquisition rate and almost full (Major Hex delayed a couple of levels) Hex progression, with full Martial weapon proficiency and eventually full armor use? Hexcrafter Magus. Has both spells on list, in class.
Cory Stafford 29 |
Are you opposed to playing a 6/9 spellcasting, d8, 3/4 BAB Witch, with 2/3 Hex acquisition rate and almost full (Major Hex delayed a couple of levels) Hex progression, with full Martial weapon proficiency and eventually full armor use? Hexcrafter Magus. Has both spells on list, in class.
Well, I was looking at the dimensional agility feats for this character and a magus can't even get the first of those feats till 11th level. That pretty much eliminates magus for this character. I am not familiar with the pathfinder savant. Is that from the pathfinder field guide?
avr |
FWIW now that you have a solution, the Pathfinder Savant is from Pathfinder Chronicles: Seekers of Secrets—A Guide to the Pathfinder Society which has been superceded by the field guide. It might have been repeated there, I don't know - I own neither product.
UnArcaneElection |
Well, I was looking at the dimensional agility feats for this character and a magus can't even get the first of those feats till 11th level. That pretty much eliminates magus for this character. I am not familiar with the pathfinder savant. Is that from the pathfinder field guide?
Pathfinder Savant (Arcane Savant on www.d20pfsrd.com) is from Pathfinder Chronicles: Seekers of Secrets—A Guide to the Pathfinder Society, released in 2009 and now out of print (and superceded by the Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Pathfinder Society Field Guide, which is itself out of print). Note that Pathfinder Savant has a caster level loss at the beginning and doesn't start giving you Esoteric Spells until 2nd level, and then only 1 per level, and it doesn't progress Witch Hexes (or Magus class features, or Wizard Arcane School abilities), which means that it is not good for a Witch (or Magus, or Wizard, if you are going the Pact Wizard route, although in either of these cases, you don't need to use this prestige class to get the spells you listed).
In the Dimensional Agility feat tree (scroll down a little bit), the 3 feats under consideration are Dimensional Agility, Dimensional Assault, and Dimensional Dervish (but really just the first 2 -- see below). The feats after this on the chain (Dimensional Maneuvers and Dimensional Savant, Magus actually qualifies earlier than Witch, due to the BAB +9 requirement. Even Dimensional Dervish has BAB +6 as a prerequisite, meaning a single-classed Witch can't get it until level 12, which really means 13 unless you do retraining shenanigans, which is just enough to put it out of PFS range.
Edit: Keep getting Ninja'd as I edit the post to try to keep up.
Dracoknight |
Another way to get Dimension door would go 3 levels of Horizon Walker and pick the Arcane (or Astral, dont remember the exact name) Terrain Mastery and get 3+Wis Dimension door a day as a spell-like.
lose 3 spellcaster levels, gain 3 levels of full BAB. and a own pool of Dimension Doors for Dimensional shenanigans.
UnArcaneElection |
^I knew I had seen a way to get a Dimension Door spell-like ability, but I couldn't remember where. Since you have to invest in Favored Terrain (Astral Plane) and Astral Mastery before Astral Dominance, it isn't very good unless you are actually going to be doing a decent amount of traveling in the Outer Planes.
Edit: Also Wizard School:Subschool Conjuration:Teleport does this from 1st level, but to get this in PFS you would have to be a Wizard with the Conjuration school, because PFS doesn't let you use VMC. I suppose you could dip Wizard and then retrain the dip level to another Magus level when you get to 10th level, but that would cause a noticeable lag in your Magus abilities until then. Unfortunately for Arcanist and Exploiter Wizard, unlike the above, the Dimensional Slide Exploit doesn't have text saying it works like Dimension Door, so gishing with a Blade Adept Arcanist is out unless you wait until 8th level to get the feat (in practice, this usually means 9th level).
Cory Stafford 29 |
Another way to get Dimension door would go 3 levels of Horizon Walker and pick the Arcane (or Astral, dont remember the exact name) Terrain Mastery and get 3+Wis Dimension door a day as a spell-like.
lose 3 spellcaster levels, gain 3 levels of full BAB. and a own pool of Dimension Doors for Dimensional shenanigans.
I am aware of that. The problem is that you need to be 6th level to qualify for horizon walker and don't get it's dim door ability until 3rd level, so you are 9th level before you even get the first feat in the chain.
Dracoknight |
Well normally the thing i see is that games with downtime and cash to spare retrain into the dimensional feats as soon as they have the oppertunity to do so.
Though i am not sure if PFS allows for such a heavy retrainment.
And standard for getting dimension door or "Teleportation" abilities is from lvl7 to lvl9 depending on which class you are, and often the earlier you get dim-door the less suitable your class is to even go for the feat-line.
Cory Stafford 29 |
^I knew I had seen a way to get a Dimension Door spell-like ability, but I couldn't remember where. Since you have to invest in Favored Terrain (Astral Plane) and Astral Mastery before Astral Dominance, it isn't very good unless you are actually going to be doing a decent amount of traveling in the Outer Planes.
Edit: Also Wizard School:Subschool Conjuration:Teleport does this from 1st level, but to get this in PFS you would have to be a Wizard with the Conjuration school, because PFS doesn't let you use VMC. I suppose you could dip Wizard and then retrain the dip level to another Magus level when you get to 10th level, but that would cause a noticeable lag in your Magus abilities until then. Unfortunately for Arcanist and Exploiter Wizard, unlike the above, the Dimensional Slide Exploit doesn't have text saying it works like Dimension Door, so gishing with a Blade Adept Arcanist is out unless you wait until 8th level to get the feat (in practice, this usually means 9th level).
The real question is does that teleportation ability count as dimension door for the purposes of the dimensional agility feats.