Slashing Grace+Bladed Brush viable?


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Hi everyone. so i have a question, right now i have a NG human inspired blade swashbuckler 1/ daring champion cavaliar 2.

feats so far
1) weapon finesse (class)(rapiers)inspired finesse
2) weapon finesse (class)(light or one handed piercing weapons)champions finesse
3) weapon focus (rapiers)
4) fencing grace (1st)
5)two weapon fighting (human)( :( took it before i knew it did't work a lot with swashbuckler.)

so recently i saw the new "bladed brush feat"
Bladed Brush (Combat)
You know how to balance a polearm perfectly, striking with artful, yet deadly precision.
Prerequisites: Weapon Focus (glaive), must be a worshiper of Shelyn.
Benefit: You can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with a glaive sized for you, even though it isn’t a light weapon. When wielding a glaive, you can treat it as a one-handed piercing or slashing melee weapon and as if you were not making attacks with your off-hand for all feats and class abilities that require such a weapon (such as a duelist’s or swashbuckler’s precise strike).
As a move action, you can shorten your grip on the glaive, treating it as though it lacked the reach weapon property. You can adjust your grip to grant the weapon the reach property as a move action.

so our Dm is letting us tweek our characters after we finish the campaign (2-5 weeks) change race/feats/skills maybe class if it don'st change your character a drastically. heres what i was thinking.

1)retrain the free weapon focus (rapiers) to weapon focus (glaive)
2)retrain fencing grace to slashing grace.
3)retrain two weapon fighting to bladed brush.
4)take lunge when i can.
5) have swordsman flair =20 ft reach.

as far as i know, bladed brush should allow you to treat a glaive as a one handed slashing or piercing weapon for feats and class abilities. so by that reasoning slashing grace is valid. i know some had said it doesn't because you need a free hand with slashing grace, but could it be a exception to the (nothing in your off hand) rule for F/S grace feats like swordsman flair?

so does this work? is rapier with keen going to be better than a glaive with keen?


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By my reading, it remains a two-handed weapon (and you still wield it with two hands), but can now be used with an assortment of cool feats and class abilities.

The feat has been hotly debated all over these forums since it's release, however, so opinions on the matter are wide ranging.


There's a debate about this in the rules forum, but like almost everything in the rules forum it gets tangled up in magus stuff. Without an official response, ask your GM if bladed brush works with slashing grace.

But part of the issue, particularly for an inspired blade, is that you're going to be hard up on panache (inspired blade only gains panache on critical hits with *rapiers*). 4th level daring champion will fix this, but you won't be regaining panache for a few levels, and even so a glaive will threaten at most 10% of the time as opposed to a rapier 30% of the time.

There's also the issue where while you can parry with a glaive, I do not think you can riposte against an adjacent opponent. I guess this makes Dodging Panache a lot more useful though.


PossibleCabbage wrote:

There's a debate about this in the rules forum, but like almost everything in the rules forum it gets tangled up in magus stuff. Without an official response, ask your GM if bladed brush works with slashing grace.

But part of the issue, particularly for an inspired blade, is that you're going to be hard up on panache (inspired blade only gains panache on critical hits with *rapiers*). 4th level daring champion will fix this, but you won't be regaining panache for a few levels, and even so a glaive will threaten at most 10% of the time as opposed to a rapier 30% of the time.

There's also the issue where while you can parry with a glaive, I do not think you can riposte against an adjacent opponent. I guess this makes Dodging Panache a lot more useful though.

yeah i know i have to wait to lv 5 to be able to regain panache with a glaive. i'm hoping that i'll be lv 5 or at the least very close to lv 5 by the time we change our characters. then again i have 7 points* of panache a day and the lowest so far i've been was 4. *(16 int, cha 18)

regarding using a glaive for parry+riposte. it seems to work since you can shorten your grip as a free action to remove "reach". plus it stats in bladed brush you can treat it as a one hand piecing weapon with class abilities such as a swashbuckler’s precise strike, which is a deed and so is parry/riposte. i mean i hope this works. i would love my swashbuckler to be able to strike foes 20 ft away for 1d10+(dex)+precise strike+challege.


Doesn't Bladed Brush specify that shortening your grip is a move action? I think the big difference between a glaive-based swashbuckler and a rapier/cutlass/scimitar based one is that the former simply doesn't have many opportunities to riposte. Whether this is counteracted by "it is easier to attack people and make conventional AOOs" will depend on circumstances in play.

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