What Scares you the most?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I recently introduced my Dm to the Boogeyman when he was asking us for suggestions on plot hooks and I suggested a sort of supernatural noir urban type thing.

I did not notice the DC25 30ft fear aura and the swift action Phantasmal Killer.

I am not intensely stressed by and scared of this creature which seems like such a horribly effective squishy killer xD At will invisibility and gaseous form and sneak attack. It got me shaking in my boots xD

any creatures you dread seeing?

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Things with ability drain like undead

Things which are immune to lots of effects like mind-affecting, such as constructs and undead

Things which are near impossible to get past unless you have a channelling Cleric like haunts

I hate all undead, and not because I am scared of things that go bump in the night. I hate them because almost all of them are under CR and they all cost an arm and a leg to fix after they have done their stupid spooky nonsense. And they creep about.

And the old, intelligent ones - what do they exactly do all day? They want to live forever so they lock themselves in a dusty chamber for all eternity. It's a terrible idea. They just wring their hands together and think evil thoughts.

Hate hate hate all undead. To the extent I sometimes don't wholly enjoy adventures with them. I have no respect for these freaks who have been around for hundreds of years and don't even leave the house, some unlife. Unimaginative chumps. Hate them


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Feeblemind


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Captain Yesterday aliases.


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Petty tyrants with access to weapons of mass destruction.


Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Captain Yesterday aliases.

Sorry I seem to be missing something?


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Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Captain Yesterday aliases.
Sorry I seem to be missing something?

Enjoy


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Al the talk about PF 2.0.


Anarchy_Kanya wrote:
Al the talk about PF 2.0.

Yeah, fortunately I haven't seen anything official about that. I see no need to invalidate so many player's collections of books and .pdfs.


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Succubi.

Listen. A well-played succubus is death to a party. She is going to pick everyone off one-by-one and there is very little you can do about it if she is clever.

Also. Vampiric Touch coup-de-grace you in your sleep.

And she could be ANYONE ONE OF US! REPLACE US IN OUR SLEEP! READ OUR THOUGHTS! THE SUCCUBI ARE EVERYWHERE, MAN!


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Granted this is from personal experience (in a game, obviously) but, basilisk. Definitely basilisk.

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Mirror of Opposition. NOTHING is as close to scary as my own party :-(


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I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death which brings total annihilation. I will turn and face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. When my fear has passed I will turn to the inner eye to seek its path. Where my fear has gone there will be nothing. I alone will be left. I must not fear.


Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Captain Yesterday aliases.
Sorry I seem to be missing something?
Enjoy

So this is what 20 ranks in disguise looks like.

I'm scared of plebs. Like the characters from Wake In Fright.


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Undeads for me too.

Not only do they kill you with nasty attacks, but most often after your deqth, you join them. And some, like vampires, can do much more than just kill you.

Oh and some templates too, like Worm that walks ...


Fey lords. Damage reduction bypassed by the material nobody makes magic weapons out of, and access to plenty of enchantments and the only interplanar strike team immune to banishment.


Knight who says Meh wrote:
Granted this is from personal experience (in a game, obviously) but, basilisk. Definitely basilisk.

I fought two basilisk' with nothing but a warrior NPC for backup as a support cleric recently. In the dark. While humans.

Granted, 5e, but 5e basilisk are way, way deadlier than their Pathfinder counterparts and I was alone.

What a good encounter. But I now have a deep seated fear of basilisk in the dark. And mildly glad I wasn't one of the dwarf NPC's who ended up petrified because they had the misfortune of having darkvision and rolling well on their perception checks to spot them sneaking up.


Basilisks aren't so bad in Pathfinder. Assuming you make your knowledge roll, any survivors can use their blood to de-petrify the victims.

Now Medusas...


Most aberrations kind of freak me out. Totally alien in appearance and behavior.


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Inevitable tax collectors.


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Also stirges. Especially vampire stirges.

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Pun Pun

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Players who run Paladins as Lawful Stupid. Players who think Chaotic Neutral is a excuse to be a rule breaking anarchist. Unprepared players as they tend to slow gameplay.


memorax wrote:
Players who run Paladins as Lawful Stupid. Players who think Chaotic Neutral is a excuse to be a rule breaking anarchist. Unprepared players as they tend to slow gameplay.

And players who think evil means going on a killing rampage without caring about consequences.

I'm afraid of incorporeal undead and swarms at low levels. Ability damage + difficult to harm.

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Negative levels.

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Kileanna wrote:


And players who think evil means going on a killing rampage without caring about consequences.

I'm afraid of incorporeal undead and swarms at low levels. Ability damage + difficult to harm.

Forgot about evil being a unthinkable killing machine ala Jason Vorhees. Swarms I hate them as well. They can TPK a unprepared party.

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Seems like a lot of folks are conflating "scared" with "endangered". Facing a monster with +99 to hit for 1d10+999 damage and 99 AC and +99 to all saves will certainly endanger your 1st-level party, but does it actually make you feel scared?

I find that the difference is in knowledge. If an enemy engages the party and quickly establishes a straightforward strategy (such as "attack for damage" or "cast save-or-suck spell X") then I find there tends not to be fear, but mere threat assessment. You get a feel for the likelihood of the enemy landing their hits/spells, and how severe their hits are, and you adjust accordingly. It's all just a bunch of calm decision-making.

But what if you don't know what sort of danger you're in? In my experience, it's far scarier if the enemy's initial actions set you up to demonstrate that something bad is coming, but you don't know exactly what. That lack of knowledge, that requirement to act without knowing the details of the situation, that inability to find the most efficient route to victory; that's where I think the actual fear comes in.


Jiggy wrote:

Seems like a lot of folks are conflating "scared" with "endangered". Facing a monster with +99 to hit for 1d10+999 damage and 99 AC and +99 to all saves will certainly endanger your 1st-level party, but does it actually make you feel scared?

I find that the difference is in knowledge. If an enemy engages the party and quickly establishes a straightforward strategy (such as "attack for damage" or "cast save-or-suck spell X") then I find there tends not to be fear, but mere threat assessment. You get a feel for the likelihood of the enemy landing their hits/spells, and how severe their hits are, and you adjust accordingly. It's all just a bunch of calm decision-making.

But what if you don't know what sort of danger you're in? In my experience, it's far scarier if the enemy's initial actions set you up to demonstrate that something bad is coming, but you don't know exactly what. That lack of knowledge, that requirement to act without knowing the details of the situation, that inability to find the most efficient route to victory; that's where I think the actual fear comes in.

I agree to a point, although in the above case it is because I know exactly what the Boogeyman can do and can't see any adjustments to be made by my party which make a cleverly played Boogeyman anything but very scary xD

Also can people please stop talking about politics here >.> you're projecting a aura of hopelessness DC30.


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Home brewed monsters. One of the DMs in our face to face group thinks "it should be challenging" and that when we start going up levels and increasing in competence, the best way to achieve that challenge is to invent monsters which are immune to our special abilities. What frightens me when we meet one of these at 9:30 is that, come 11:20 after a tedious fight chipping away at a mountain of hit points with meagre attacks, he'll say "well, looks like you're going to win eventually. Let's take that as a given and call it quits for tonight".

Wait...is this the rant thread?


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No it isn't and you DM sounds like an ass.


Paizo abandoning Pathfinder and players flocking to a different system which I will be forced to then buy.


rainzax wrote:

Paizo abandoning Pathfinder and players flocking to a different system which I will be forced to then buy.

Bah! You can beat that with just some good ole fashioned stubbornness.


Yeah, I was just about to post Pathfinder 2.0 but you beat me to it. But my group and I won't buy it. We have enough of this version to last us the rest of our gaming lives.


Knight who says Meh wrote:
rainzax wrote:

Paizo abandoning Pathfinder and players flocking to a different system which I will be forced to then buy.

Bah! You can beat that with just some good ole fashioned stubbornness.

And play with who?

DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Yeah, I was just about to post Pathfinder 2.0 but you beat me to it. But my group and I won't buy it. We have enough of this version to last us the rest of our gaming lives.

I'm not afraid of a 2 unless it invalidates 1 - if so then see above.


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Copies of PCs scares me. Because PCs tend to be optimized for their level. And that is...scary.


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rainzax wrote:
Knight who says Meh wrote:
rainzax wrote:

Paizo abandoning Pathfinder and players flocking to a different system which I will be forced to then buy.

Bah! You can beat that with just some good ole fashioned stubbornness.

And play with who?

DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Yeah, I was just about to post Pathfinder 2.0 but you beat me to it. But my group and I won't buy it. We have enough of this version to last us the rest of our gaming lives.
I'm not afraid of a 2 unless it invalidates 1 - if so then see above.

Not scared of that as long as Paizo doesn't send people to my house to burn all my Pathfinder stuff.

When I like a game I don't care it's not the newest version.

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The GM grins.


The Bovidaemon.

A mad cow rears before you, its flesh appearing to have been shredded, broiled, and then woven back into a mockery of the bovine form, all at once skinless, charred, and dripping with grease.

Hell has Erinyes, wrought from fallen Angels and fallen pious souls.

The Undead have Huecuvas, forged from priests who have blasphemed those whom they once worshipped.

Daemons have . . . Bovidaemons, formed from Sacred Cows that have been suffered death by being ground to hamburger. Although the precise abilities of Bovidaemons are as yet incompletely known, they are known to be harbingers of udder annihilation.


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Kileanna wrote:

Not scared of that as long as Paizo doesn't send people to my house to burn all my Pathfinder stuff.

When I like a game I don't care it's not the newest version.

Yeah, I don't see anything remotely scary about a new edition of a game. I still regularly run games that are 20+ years out of print.


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Jiggy wrote:
Seems like a lot of folks are conflating "scared" with "endangered". Facing a monster with +99 to hit for 1d10+999 damage and 99 AC and +99 to all saves will certainly endanger your 1st-level party, but does it actually make you feel scared?

Depends. A monster is just a statblock after all. But even though they might just be a high-tuned statblock, dragons genuinely scare the s~*% out of me BECAUSE I know they are extremely tough and difficult to fight for most parties and, if played well, can very quickly kill parties. While inherently disadvantaged due to action economy and their tendency to be individualistic by nature, it still doesn't stop me from being scared of dragons.


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UnArcaneElection wrote:

The Bovidaemon.

A mad cow rears before you, its flesh appearing to have been shredded, broiled, and then woven back into a mockery of the bovine form, all at once skinless, charred, and dripping with grease.

Hell has Erinyes, wrought from fallen Angels and fallen pious souls.

The Undead have Huecuvas, forged from priests who have blasphemed those whom they once worshipped.

Daemons have . . . Bovidaemons, formed from Sacred Cows that have been suffered death by being ground to hamburger. Although the precise abilities of Bovidaemons are as yet incompletely known, they are known to be harbingers of udder annihilation.

That reminds me of this. Good times.


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Spiders.

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