Idea for Gestalt Character (Cleric / Wizard)


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I had an idea for a gestalt character, but wanted to run it by everyone here. Cleric (Undead Lord)//Wizard (Undead Master) - would this be viable? I know the Undead Lord archetype is considered to be not that great.


I don't think the Undead Master archetype is that great either, especially since you get the animate dead spell via your divine caster class early already.

Two level 9 spellcasters will always be viable, regardless of which archetypes you take.

Samsaran is a good race for Wizard/Cleric. (+Wis/Int)

If you really want to go bananas on necromancy, take a look at Juju oracle (spirit vessel revelation).


Instead, I'd go Oracle (Juju Mystery)//Wizard (Cruoromancer). You still get Channel Negative Energy (bundled WITH the Command Undead feat!) through the Undead Servitude ability from the Juju Mystery, as well as being able to control 6HD/CL of undead instead of 4HD through the Spirit Vessels ability, which also maximizes the HP of all Zombies you make. The Cruoromancer gets a lot of great auxiliary effects for his Necr spells, like adding 1 to save DC's, adding the Sickened condition to targets on a failed save, adding a "free" Desecrate effect that lasts for at least 10 minutes (meaning you can essentially cast Desecrate as a 0-level spell!), and they can animate a number of HD of undead equal to 3 times their CL instead of 2 times with Animate Dead (inside that free Desecrate effect, that becomes 6 times your CL o.O). The only limitation is the Cruoromancer is a Dhampire-specific archetype, but they're not too bad (+2 Cha for the Oracle, and the Wizard FCB adds +1/4 to CL for all Necr spells, which is amazing!).

As Dansome said, having 2 full-casting classes is gonna be amazing by itself (I disallowed such combinations for the gestalt game I ran a few years back). What are you ultimately trying to do with this build, besides be a bad-larry necromancer?


juju oricle plus sorc then become a lich and be tankyer than the fighter

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