Making sure I have this right....


Rules Questions


So if you gain a class ability that increases at intervals during level progression (sneak attack, Domain/School abilities, revelations, etc...etc...) prior to taking a PrC....those abilities stop scaling once you enter the PrC unless it specifically calls out their continued advancement correct ?


yup, you get nothing from the old class and only stuff from the new class.


I can't think of an exception at the moment, so yes. Once you get into the PrC, you get what it says you get, and nothing more.

That said, I don't have all the classes in front of me.


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Evangelist is an exception - but it specifically states you continue, and you do skip original class advancement the first level. It seems there's another that starts with an E, too.


A highly regarded expert wrote:
I can't think of an exception at the moment, so yes. Once you get into the PrC, you get what it says you get, and nothing more.

.....Evangalist ?.......:P


So at least in regards to most casters....there is no point going into a PrC unless you are seriously underwhelmed with what you have.....


If by that you mean "no point in going into a PrC that doesnt advance spellcasting" then yes, you're mostly right.

But there are a large number of PrC's that have a feature that advances spellcasting so you may have a lot of options available depending what you want to do.


It depends....base class....true. If you are in an Archetype that has progressing abilities....you have to be a lot more careful about weighing options before entering a PrC....Even a base class has to ask itself, is what I'm gaining from my Bloodline, School, Mystery..etc...etc...better than what I'm getting from the PrC....


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Pathfinder made base classes very strong (in comparison to 3.5) so that multiclassing away from your base class is painful. It's supposed to be. In 3.5 the answer was always multiclassing or going into a prestige class. Now prestige classes are intended to be a method of getting a specific flavor, not being more powerful.


Claxon wrote:
Pathfinder made base classes very strong (in comparison to 3.5) so that multiclassing away from your base class is painful. It's supposed to be. In 3.5 the answer was always multiclassing or going into a prestige class. Now prestige classes are intended to be a method of getting a specific flavor, not being more powerful.

And actually I'm good with that. I have enjoyed Archetype's a lot more than PrC's anyway. ;)


Some classes still work very well with prestige classes, as long as you find the right ones.

A wizard who prestiges into classes which have full casting progression (not sure which ones but I know there are some) really aren't losing too much. The wizard discoveries are cool, but not wholly necessary. Depending on the school chosen, those abilities aren't super great either. As long as you advance that sweet sweet spell casting it can be worth it. Other classes with stronger class features (besides spell casting) are usually SOL.


Claxon wrote:

Some classes still work very well with prestige classes, as long as you find the right ones.

A wizard who prestiges into classes which have full casting progression (not sure which ones but I know there are some) really aren't losing too much. The wizard discoveries are cool, but not wholly necessary. Depending on the school chosen, those abilities aren't super great either. As long as you advance that sweet sweet spell casting it can be worth it. Other classes with stronger class features (besides spell casting) are usually SOL.

I wrote a guide on the Arcane Trickster.

It's got way more options than it did when I wrote the guide. I've thought about updating it, but knowing what you can do now to qualify to enter the class at 4th freakin' level, I don't think I have to.

Treantmonk moved on to 5e.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Well, the FAQ about class/race abilities makes it so they do not count toward the pre-regs for the PrC, so unless your using the lesser memorization classes, it is a long haul until you reach Arcane Trickster.


A highly regarded expert wrote:
Claxon wrote:

Some classes still work very well with prestige classes, as long as you find the right ones.

A wizard who prestiges into classes which have full casting progression (not sure which ones but I know there are some) really aren't losing too much. The wizard discoveries are cool, but not wholly necessary. Depending on the school chosen, those abilities aren't super great either. As long as you advance that sweet sweet spell casting it can be worth it. Other classes with stronger class features (besides spell casting) are usually SOL.

I wrote a guide on the Arcane Trickster.

It's got way more options than it did when I wrote the guide. I've thought about updating it, but knowing what you can do now to qualify to enter the class at 4th freakin' level, I don't think I have to.

Treantmonk moved on to 5e.

Yeah that trick about using SLAs to qualify for the class got removed, you must have been gone for a while to miss the original update and then it's removal.

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