Brute Style (Stomp) and Pummeling Style (Bully) Interaction?


Rules Questions


A MoMS with both styles makes a full attack. If he hits his first attack, Pummeling Bully says he can use a free action to attempt a trip. If he's successful, does this allow the monk to trigger Brute Stomp for an extra attack?

I've emboldened the significant lines.

Brute Stomp:
While using Brute Style, when you make a full attack with a prone opponent adjacent to you that includes at least one unarmed strike, you can make an additional unarmed strike at your highest base attack bonus against that prone creature. These additional attacks don’t stack with those granted by Medusa’s Wrath, and this does not allow you to make an additional attack against a creature you tripped during your full attack. Additionally, you can use your Vicious Stomp feat against any opponent within your natural reach regardless of whether it falls prone adjacent to you.

Pummeling Bully:
When you use Pummeling Style to make an entire full attack or flurry of blows against a single target, if you hit with any of your attacks, you can attempt a reposition or trip combat maneuver check as a free action.

I wouldn't think so, not because of the line in stomp's text specifying that it can't be used on an opponent you've tripped with the full attack (because the trip is a separate free action), but because RAI implies the target must have been tripped before the the full attack.

What do you guys think?

Scarab Sages

Brute style doesn't trigger. Not only does it prevent the extra attacks from trips you make during the full attack, the target must already be prone and adjacent to you when you begin your full attack.


^^^
However, using Pummeling Bully, a successful trip would permit the use of Vicious Stomp. If you had Greater Trip you could add an additional attack of opportunity... provided you have Combat Reflexes. Full attack action, free trip, 2 attack of opportunities.


Tyrant Lizard King wrote:

^^^

However, using Pummeling Bully, a successful trip would permit the use of Vicious Stomp. If you had Greater Trip you could add an additional attack of opportunity... provided you have Combat Reflexes. Full attack action, free trip, 2 attack of opportunities.

Why is it two aoo's?


Mantipper wrote:
Why is it two aoo's?

FAQ/Errata

The Greater Trip feat allows you to take an attack of opportunity against a foe that you trip. The Vicious Stomp feat allows you to take an attack of opportunity against a foe that falls prone adjacent to you. If you have both these feats and trip a foe, do you get to make two attacks of opportunity (assuming that you can)?

Yes, the two triggering acts are similar here but they are different. One occurs when you trip a foe. The other occurs when a foe falls prone. It requires a large number of feats to accomplish, but you can really pile on the attacks with this combination.


Tyrant Lizard King wrote:

FAQ/Errata

The Greater Trip feat allows you to take an attack of opportunity against a foe that you trip. The Vicious Stomp feat allows you to take an attack of opportunity against a foe that falls prone adjacent to you. If you have both these feats and trip a foe, do you get to make two attacks of opportunity (assuming that you can)?

Yes, the two triggering acts are similar here but they are different. One occurs when you trip a foe. The other occurs when a foe falls prone. It requires a large number of feats to accomplish, but you can really pile on the attacks with this combination.

Oh right, I neglected to add 1 and 1... I'm a tad tired, I suppose.

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