Can we talk about the game finder?


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Seriously, the thing is terrible. I can't find my own games on it, much less what someone that was looking for PFS in general would have to do to find a game.

It inexplicably cuts off after listing the weeks games somewhere around Indiana and starts on the next week. If there's some way to make it usable i dont know what it is, and I don't doubt that a number of potential new guys have tried and given up and gone on to play 5e or become successful lawyers or met some other gruesome fate.

Shadow Lodge

Yeah. I wish they would just go back to the old one as that at least let you find games easier by zip code. They would just need to add something for international games if I remember some of the old criticisms about it. I used to use it all the time to help someone asking if there were games near them. I can't do that anymore with the current finder.


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Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
Yeah. I wish they would just go back to the old one as that at least let you find games easier by zip code. They would just need to add something for international games if I remember some of the old criticisms about it. I used to use it all the time to help someone asking if there were games near them. I can't do that anymore with the current finder.

I don't have every game but i have a lot of them

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Woo BigNorseWolf you're my hero. Not only for re-raising the issue (I know I've had a terrible time in the past finding games... (if only everyone used Warhorn!), but also because "My" local game is on your list.


Voadkha wrote:

Woo BigNorseWolf you're my hero. Not only for re-raising the issue (I know I've had a terrible time in the past finding games... (if only everyone used Warhorn!), but also because "My" local game is on your list.

I don't like warhorns find a game either. You need to know exactly what town you're looking for. That works in new york city , not so much in New City.

Liberty's Edge

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BigNorseWolf's map should be linked from the PFS front page as a community resource!

Silver Crusade

There's a game finder?

Oh yeah, I think I remember looking at that 5 years ago, and giving up on it pretty quickly. I ended up finding games through other web sites instead (Meetup.com, random Google searches for my area and the word "Pathfinder", etc).


I agree It took me to stumble into my local comic shop on an off day to find out they gathered there to play

Liberty's Edge

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Try BigNorseWolf's.

Grand Lodge

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I travel all over the world for a living, and try to find games when I can. I end up having to search multiple sources every time, including the Society page, BNW's map, Warhorn, and even MeetUp. And then there's other unique systems like the Pacific northwest's internal forum sign up system requiring pre-registration and approval.

The map is hands down the best, especially for travelers or anyone not familiar with every little town or suburb.

MeetUp is the worst for finding games, but some areas use it exclusively (I'm looking at you Miami & Broward, FL.)

It's too bad there's not a little bit more guidance from leadership to the VOs for making games easier to find. I get that herding gamers toward a particular tech solution is as hard as getting them to agree on pizza toppings. But one of the major selling points of organized play is the portability, so to encourage that and, more importantly, to make it easier for new players to find us, it seems that providing a usable, complete, open, and simple system should be a high priority. The system that best meets all those needs is BigNorseWolf's map, which I would recommend leadership make official and required.


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If you find places that aren't on the flat rolling surfaces map, put them on there for other pathfinders to find (add marker detailed, start writing in the address , the computer is pretty good about picking it up, add in the website meetup/warhorn or whatever the group uses for a braaaaaain and you're done.

Grand Lodge

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As much as I love PFS, there aspects of the website that are sub-optimal. BNW, thanks for putting us all on the map.

Hmm

Liberty's Edge

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Though I agree the page sucks, it was better before. That said all the games for current and next month are there you just need to go to page 2 and 3 to see them. Why they separate it that way instead of date straight through I don't know.

For games to show up they need to have scheduled upcoming games, if they don't do that they won't show up with out a search.

Edit: If it wasn't for that one organizer in Houston who has not set up his location my game would be the first on the list ;). Houston get your act together!!! ;)


Well, look at that - the international games *are* there, but the first page makes it look like there are only online and United States games listed. Quick links to other countries, even when they're on a different page, would help this a lot.


Steven Lau wrote:

Though I agree the page sucks, it was better before. That said all the games for current and next month are there you just need to go to page 2 and 3 to see them. Why they separate it that way instead of date straight through I don't know.

For games to show up they need to have scheduled upcoming games, if they don't do that they won't show up with out a search.

Edit: If it wasn't for that one organizer in Houston who has not set up his location my game would be the first on the list ;). Houston get your act together!!! ;)

HEH! i found my game. i did put it up there at some point...

But yeah, you scroll down looking for a game, and the page turner is back up at the top, now hidden...


the password to add things is shadowlodgeforlife with the number standing in for 4. original i know.

Dark Archive

BNW, if I see a marker for a now defunct store, is there a way to remove it?


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BNW, if I see a marker for a now defunct store, is there a way to remove it?

That either takes the person who put it up or poking me (by design. I don't want some yahoo getting mad at the neighbors and wiping them off the map)

I play taps when i have to take a spot down..


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BigNorseWolf wrote:

(...I don't want some yahoo getting mad at the neighbors and wiping them off the map)

I have been playing too much Civ VI recently, because the first thing that came to mind after reading that was the use of nuclear weapons on AI nations that had gotten too annoying... XD

I have to agree that the current game finder leaves a lot to be desired. It took me three times looking at it to discover there was a location that might actually work for me.

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I didn't realize all the issues around the finder. I will poke around and see what, if anything, can be done. Thanks for bringing it up!

Grand Lodge

As I find games that aren't on the map, I'll do what I can to get them added. Good suggestion. But rather than adding them myself, I'll likely strongly recommend to the organizer that they add themselves. That way they are more invested in keeping the link and info up to date.

I'm curious tho, where does the official Society page get its data from? Cause I know events that have event numbers that aren't listed. (Disclaimer: I've never had to create an event.) Is there a setting or option when you create an event to have it show up or not on the Society list? If so, maybe some education to or by the VOs to the organizers so that the list can be made more complete.

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Yep, in the Bay Area we primarily use Warhorn to organize signups and events (in particular the RSS feeds for stores makes it easy for some people to know when new events show up) and also use Meetup to reach that audience. The people I've asked haven't found us through the Events page, but I definitely went from Paizo -> PFS years ago, so a better Events page likely would've made it easier to find nearby games and drop by.

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Nomadical wrote:
I'm curious tho, where does the official Society page get its data from? Cause I know events that have event numbers that aren't listed. (Disclaimer: I've never had to create an event.) Is there a setting or option when you create an event to have it show up or not on the Society list? If so, maybe some education to or by the VOs to the organizers so that the list can be made more complete.

When you create an event you are given the option of making it public.

Also some event organizers are not the most conscientious. If they have a recurring event - which keeps the same event number - (say a monthly game) and use a different method to arrange signups (Warhorn) they may not create the specific game day event until after the game is over; filling in completed tables. So it never gets advertised on Paizo.


Belafon wrote:


Also some event organizers are not the most conscientious. If they have a recurring event - which keeps the same event number - (say a monthly game) and use a different method to arrange signups (Warhorn) they may not create the specific game day event until after the game is over; filling in completed tables. So it never gets advertised on Paizo.

that

For years i was just making a new event for every week because it's easier. Its also getting harder and harder to keep using the same event the bigger it gets: having to scroll through EVERY scenario every played usually takes a second google search to figure out which year the scenario was to find it in the list.

If the event finder could look into the past, it would at least find games where people were reporting (if not setting it up in advance)


Solutions:

1)

Bring back the old zipcode game finder

Give the option to look for past games (and leave that as the default). Remember a new person isn't looking for a specific game or a specific time or fridays or alternate tuesdays, the first thing they need to know is if/where there's any pfs happening and where the contact information or it's brain is.

2) Make an entirely new game finder

3) Sticky a thread with the flat rolling surfaces map in the PFS forums and poke the venture critters about filling it in.


I'd like it if we had a gamer finder for people that DON'T do PFS. Is that wrong? (I'm not saying no PF at all just not PFS.)


Here's another vote for warhorn.


Mulgar wrote:

Here's another vote for warhorn.

Do you mean putting a warhorn type system on the forums or searching on warhorn?

Warhorns search function is terrible if you're not in the same town that the PFS is. Even if you try searching Schenectady you don't find games in Albany for example. If you're trying to find a game you could have to search for dozens if not hundreds of towns to find one with a game.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Solutions:

3) Sticky a thread with the flat rolling surfaces map in the PFS forums and poke the venture critters about filling it in.

Your wish is my command. Check out this thread!

Grand Lodge

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Oh thank you, Tonya!!!

Hmm

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