How would a cleric of Wadjet or any pathfinder cleric peform a wedding ceremony ?


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How would a cleric or more specifically a cleric of Wadjet conduct a wedding ceromony what would I say anyone got a script & what would he need ?

I have just been told that I may be about to be asked in game I got no idea how to do so


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Such things will depend on the pantheon rather than a particular deity within it. In this case, Wadjet is in Ancient Osirion's, which just happens to bear a slight resemblance to ancient Egypt IRL. Googling ancient Egyptian marriage ceremony reveals that... they didn't have one! A contract might be signed beforehand, and a normal party might be held afterwards, but there was no ceremony and no religious element. Which is particularly odd since they did have a god of marriage whose blessing could have been asked, but there you have it. I guess a god of marriage isn't necessarily a god of weddings.

If the couple are adherents of Wadjet and really want their blessing on their union, say something about wisdom and how nice it is to have and how they will now strive for it together instead of separately, then whack them with a light mace to drive the point home.


Probably just casting ceremony would be religious enough.


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If the encounter is roleplayed out and you conduct the ceremony, arrange to have it near a river. Make a short speech about life's journeys, using river metaphors, and how you hope Wadjet will bestow upon them grace and wisdom all their long lives. Maybe do a baptism for the couple. Keep it short and sweet, for life is about the journey.


Lathiira wrote:
If the encounter is roleplayed out and you conduct the ceremony, arrange to have it near a river. Make a short speech about life's journeys, using river metaphors, and how you hope Wadjet will bestow upon them grace and wisdom all their long lives. Maybe do a baptism for the couple. Keep it short and sweet, for life is about the journey.

That's sounds more like a Asar/Osiris funeral than a Wadjet wedding :P


Well, I was trying to keep it more serious :) The idea stands though: short sermon about the good thing you're doing, tie it into your god's beliefs, blah blah blah you may kiss the bride, we've all heard it before and they all sound the same.


It would probably depend on who is being married. Nobles or royalty may get a much bigger ceremony, since it is a public and a social event which people should see and know about. The religious component to it may be fairly small, but it would serve to reaffirm the public perception that the clergy and thus the gods approve of the social order.

A regular Joe and Jane who seek recognition of their marirage would imo receive a blessing and a short sermon on the virtues that Wadjet represents for their married life - i.e. an exhortation to show the wisdom and kindness that she represents in their life together and in raising their children. Wadjet is associated with protection as well, so a prayer to her to keep the couple and the children from harm would definitely not be amiss - I expect Golarion to have better healthcare than RL ancient Egypt, but birth and infant mortality may still be a big issue (particularly to the couples themselves).


is there any information specifically regarding wadjets relationship with the other dietys ?


BlackPickle wrote:
is there any information specifically regarding wadjets relationship with the other dietys ?

She's a direct enemy to Apep in Pathfinder (though in the myth she isn't friendly towards Apep), and in the Myth Wadjet is sometimes a sort of feminine counterpart to Ra, and she is sorta a protector of Horus (and thus the pharaoh).


what about pharasma and wadjet ? be interested to know but I was told

follow pharasma, and think a wadjet cleric is perfect as wadjet is about the people and land of osirian

so should be okay :-)

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Lathiira wrote:
If the encounter is roleplayed out and you conduct the ceremony, arrange to have it near a river. Make a short speech about life's journeys, using river metaphors, and how you hope Wadjet will bestow upon them grace and wisdom all their long lives. Maybe do a baptism for the couple. Keep it short and sweet, for life is about the journey.

I'd go with something along those lines. Very inspiring Lathiira!

Step into the river as individuals from the shore and have the past washed away 'giving it to the river' and step out a married couple, holding hands. Nothing overly long or complicated ('cause, crocodiles!), just a quick statement, and done. Her worship is generally centered around the River Sphinx anyway, so that river would be ideal, but other rivers would suffice, or even some (clean) water sluiced over the couple (again, symbolically washing away their past) might be acceptable if they can't get to a river for the ceremony. (Standing in a puddle or trough is right out. The water must be moving, even if it's only moving because it's being dumped over their heads from a bucket! Rain, of course, also works, but is rare enough that people who were planning to get married anyway, might run down to the river and have their ceremony early just to have it while it's raining, which might be seen as a sign of good luck!)

"Take all you have been, everyone you have loved, your ties to your previous families, and allow the goddess to wash over you, and carry away that which would weaken the ties you make today to your new family, for whom your allegiance and affection are now paramount. Clasp their hand, and together make your way out of the flood, into this new life you make together, knowing that the hand you take will always be there for you, to guide you through life, and that you will always be there for them, to lighten your burdens."

"Your past life is over. It is now the ocean, the great salt, still alive and vital and important, but where all things ultimately come from, and ultimately end up. You are now in the river, the running fresh. Your life has changed, and you now travel a journey together, always forward. Be the river. Dwell not on the ocean, all moving water touches, and you will not every truly be apart from it, but that is the past, it will always be there waiting for you, when your life's journey is done."


That's a more elaborate version of what I was thinking, Set, but yes, it's what I had in mind with the river.


The most ready 'pantheistic' currently to hand would be the Hindu one. Some of their religious ceremonies are online (and VERY Bollywood) and make allowances for followers dedicated to differing gods and even aspects thereof.

Depending on the couple, a pantheist cleric could have a simple 'I curse you with marriage, heretics' to an elaborate celebration by thousands. Set has a great bit to steal shamelessly, but not knowing if either participant particularly follows Wadjet, A slight variation might be in order.

Does Wadjet prosthelytize?
Is it a 'hidden' or cultlike faith?
Are there dedicated shrines, temples, etc.?
Costumes?

Stealing from actual Egyptian history, such a wedding might evoke some protection from cobras or other positive connection.

EDIT: A friend just noted me that we had such a wedding ages ago between followers of Mars and Athena, both fighters.


is there some pronounceable words I can use instead of Man & wife that would fit or even just sound like man and wife or i could comically say man & goat in some language

in the part that say i now pronounce you man and wife...but man & goat in some other language


BlackPickle wrote:

is there some pronounceable words I can use instead of Man & wife that would fit or even just sound like man and wife or i could comically say man & goat in some language

in the part that say i now pronounce you man and wife...but man & goat in some other language

Are you marrying a PC? Don't go with man and goat please!


i like to put a funny thing into it but if you can come up with a easily pronounceable more sensible words im all ears :P

yeah its a PC to a NPC


BlackPickle wrote:

i like to put a funny thing into it but if you can come up with a easily pronounceable more sensible words im all ears :P

yeah its a PC to a NPC

Google man and woman in arabic. Pretty words, generally pretty language that I dont know.

And sorry bout the earlier bit, GM put some humour in my PCs wedding... hated it... but thats personal :)


yeah ive tried searching for arabic words i find those hard to pronounce


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Bwang wrote:


Does Wadjet prosthelytize?

Probably not very much. Both in Pathfinder and RL myth she's the goddess of a specific river and the surrounding lands within a specific country.

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Is it a 'hidden' or cultlike faith?

Not even remotely. You can find her image and name across Egypt, as in RL she was not only the protector of the land, but personal bodyguard to Ra himself. In Pathfinder she is the protector of the River Sphinx and all it's spirits, as well as the Pharaoh himself.

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Are there dedicated shrines, temples, etc.?

Definitely. Drawing on the RL counterpart I'd suggest one big temple in a city within the River Sphinx' delta, smaller shrines at regular intervals along the river, and shrines inside the larger temples elsewhere in Osirion.

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Costumes?

Here you've got me.

I'd also suggest her faith in Pathfinder contain a larger than normal number of Oracles, as her RL version was noted for it and may have been the source of the Greek practice of using oracles.

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