Echoen |
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard-a rchetypes/juggler-bard-archetype
If I am grappling with an opponent, are both my hands considered fully occupied?
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Seperate question (but related),
If I am grappling an opponent (or pinning), would I be able to use Maneuver Master http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/archetypes/paizo---monk-a rchetypes/maneuver-master to perform other maneuvers, such as Steal?
I do have the Chokehold feat http://archivesofnethys.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Chokehold
At BAB +11, I would have a full attack of 4 maneuvers.
Attack #1: Attempt Grapple.
Attack #2: Attempt to establish chokehold
Attack #3: Attempt Steal
Attack #4: Attempt Steal
strangepork |
The penalties would be awful, and as I read it, you can only do 3 max, at lvl 15
You replace you BAB of 11/6/1 with your monk lvl, 15
-2 for flurry of blows
-2 grappled condition
-4 one handed
-7 attempting 3 maneuvers under flurry of maneuvers
-5 for Chokehold
Full Round Action
action 1 - Grapple at d20+0
action 2 - Chokehold at d20-5
action 3 - Steal at d20+0
you do not get a 4th action, assuming you are 15th level. You dont have flurry of blows so you dont get an extra attack - you gave up flurry of blows to get flurry of maneuvers, which is very specific about 3 total maneuvers at 15th lvl
strangepork |
Wow i pooched that. Missed word Additional, so yes 4th, and the penalties are not on all attacks but get worse. Let me try again.
-2 flurry of maneuvers
-2 grappled
-4 one handed
1st and 2nd maneuvers no penalty
3rd is -3
4th is -7
lvl of 15 replaces BAB
Full Round Action
- Grapple at d20+7
- chokehold at d20+2 (chokehold is -5)
- Steal at d20+4
- Steal at d20+0
Speaker for the Dead |
Both your hands aren't necessarily engaged in the grapple but it's important to note that maintaining a grapple (or making a grapple) is a standard action which limits what you can do. Basically you can perform the manoeuvres listed under grapple; move, damage, pin or tie up.
If you have the greater grapple feat you can maintain your grapple as a move action which allows for more options.