Wayfinders and flawed Ioun Stones


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When inserting a flawed or cracked ioun stone into a Wayfinder, would you receive the bonus from Resonant Powers (Method I)?

Under Resonant Powers (method I) in "Seeker of Secrets" it says if that stone(pink and green sphere) is inserted in a Wayfinder you get a +1 Will save bonus, but does it have to be a unflawed/uncracked stone?

My specific example is using a cracked pink and green cracked sphere. When inserted into a Wayfinder should you receive a +1 to Will saves?

Search didn't pull up anything regarding flawed/cracked stones with Wayfinders


DmRrostarr wrote:

When inserting a flawed or cracked ioun stone into a Wayfinder, would you receive the bonus from Resonant Powers (Method I)?

Under Resonant Powers (method I) in "Seeker of Secrets" it says if that stone(pink and green sphere) is inserted in a Wayfinder you get a +1 Will save bonus, but does it have to be a unflawed/uncracked stone?

My specific example is using a cracked pink and green cracked sphere. When inserted into a Wayfinder should you receive a +1 to Will saves?

IIRC there was a FAQ that addressed this and stated that cracked/flawed stones wouldn't provide the additional benefit.


Up to the GM.
In PFS only whole ioun stones can resonate.


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I haven't seen anything for general play, but specifically for Pathfinder Society it says this on the Additional Resources page

Additional Resources wrote:
Only normal ioun stones have resonance—cracked and flawed ioun stones never do.

If this is for a home game talk to your gm, however I would be inclined to not allow it.

700g (500 for wayfinder 200 for ioun stone) for +1 to will saves and +1 to a charisma based skill is way below average. Especially considering what else you could get.

200g for improved unarmed strike (Cracked Deep Red)

500g for +1 to initiative and +2 to cmb/cmd (Cracked Dusty Rose)

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I think it is a slipper slope, if you allow the resonance power of one flawed/cracked ioun then all of them should be allowed, and some of the resonant powers are better than others.


Not positive which sourcebook this is from, but

d20pfsrd wrote:
Resonant Powers: When an ioun stone is set within the special indentation in a wayfinder, a secondary resonant power sometimes manifests to augment the ioun stone's powers, though this suppresses the wayfinder's normal magical abilities. This minor function is in addition to the stone's normal abilities, which continue to affect the wayfinder's bearer as though the stone were orbiting her head. Two resonating wayfinders wielded by the same character suppress one another's abilities, but both return to normal when one wayfinder is set aside. 75% of ioun stones grant resonant powers when placed in a wayfinder. 25% of cracked or flawed ioun stones have resonant powers (see Wayfinders and Ioun Stones) compared to the 75% chance for typical ioun stones; only 10% of scorched ioun stones have resonant powers.

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Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:

Not positive which sourcebook this is from, but

d20pfsrd wrote:
Resonant Powers: When an ioun stone is set within the special indentation in a wayfinder, a secondary resonant power sometimes manifests to augment the ioun stone's powers, though this suppresses the wayfinder's normal magical abilities. This minor function is in addition to the stone's normal abilities, which continue to affect the wayfinder's bearer as though the stone were orbiting her head. Two resonating wayfinders wielded by the same character suppress one another's abilities, but both return to normal when one wayfinder is set aside. 75% of ioun stones grant resonant powers when placed in a wayfinder. 25% of cracked or flawed ioun stones have resonant powers (see Wayfinders and Ioun Stones) compared to the 75% chance for typical ioun stones; only 10% of scorched ioun stones have resonant powers.

I imagine its from "Seekers of Secrets" and I missed it.

Great find, thanks!!


I am not sure it from "Seekers of Secrets", or not, but I sure "Seekers of Secrets" is a 3.5 book, if not it may need updated. Because i notice one of the abilities on Nacreous gray sphere you can get is to reduce the miss chance to incorporeal to 25%. In pathfinder you no longer have a miss chance vs incorporeal creatures. So not even sure a way-finder are supposed to work in pathfinder anymore. I am refer you to asking your GM.


Best I can find on a source is: Pathfinder Society Primer

Only 75% of ioun stones grant resonant powers when placed in a wayfinder.
Only 25% of cracked ioun stones grant resonant powers when placed in a wayfinder.
Only 25% of flawed ioun stones grant resonant powers when placed in a wayfinder.


KainPen wrote:
I am not sure it from "Seekers of Secrets", or not, but I sure "Seekers of Secrets" is a 3.5 book, if not it may need updated. Because i notice one of the abilities on Nacreous gray sphere you can get is to reduce the miss chance to incorporeal to 25%. In pathfinder you no longer have a miss chance vs incorporeal creatures. So not even sure a way-finder are supposed to work in pathfinder anymore. I am refer you to asking your GM.

Seekers of Secrets is early Pathfinder, not 3.5. Publication date is 2009 and it uses "Perception" rather than "Listen and Spot".

Early Pathfinder publications have more inconsistencies as the rules were not completely finished.

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