coup de grace with spectral hand w / "Chill touch".

[LucasB]

My necromancer was on the roof away from any melee fighting. So I managed to ghoul touch an enemy as he was frozen and threw up Chill touch and wanted to coup de grace him as he was helpless but my DM said I had to be right beside him....? This is only for a bow (ranged weapon)

I mean chill touch is considered a weapon, I have to roll to hit and do dmg it's just like any other weapon...

Are spells like chill touch considered melle attacks or rather touch spells with a charge considered to be weapons for the purpose of doing a Coup de Grace?

[Gallant Armor]

LucasB wrote:

My necromancer was on the roof away from any melee fighting. So I managed to ghoul touch an enemy as he was frozen and threw up Chill touch and wanted to coup de grace him as he was helpless but my DM said I had to be right beside him....? This is only for a bow (ranged weapon)

I mean chill touch is considered a weapon, I have to roll to hit and do dmg it's just like any other weapon...

Are spells like chill touch considered melle attacks or rather touch spells with a charge considered to be weapons for the purpose of doing a Coup de Grace?

From spectral hand: "attacking with the hand counts normally as an attack". I would allow it.

[LucasB]

Here's the thing...

Coup de Grace

As a full-round action, you can use a melee weapon to deliver a coup de grace (pronounced "coo day grahs") to a helpless opponent.
You can also use a bow or crossbow, provided you are adjacent to the target.

"Melee weapon" So is a charge like chill touch on a hand considered a melee weapon? Rather is A melee touch attack considered a melee weapon?

[Tarantula]

Quote:

Coup de Grace: As a full-round action, you can use a melee weapon to deliver a coup de grace (pronounced "coo day grahs") to a helpless opponent. You can also use a bow or crossbow, provided you are adjacent to the target.

I would let you to use chill touch for a coup de grace even though its not technically a weapon since it can hit for a critical. Ranged coup de grace requires you to be adjacent to the target. I would require you to be adjacent just like with a bow to do a ranged CDG via spectral hand.

[Valandil Ancalime]

The real question is, do you want your opponents to start spectral handing coup de graces to you?

[Brother Fen]

Chill Touch should work as a melee attack only. It's really up to your GM as to whether or not it qualifies for coup de grace. It may lack the finesse and manual dexterity for such a feat. That said, if GM says you need to be adjacent, then you need to be adjacent to the target.

[dragonhunterq]

Add me to those who reckon you should be able to coup de grace a target just fine with weapon-like ranged spells - as long as you are adjacent.