Normally I'm GMing, but one person noticed my longing to be on the other side of the screen and is running a game set in Galt (hooray!) but isn't allowing third party products (boooo!).
Since I've gotten used to using third party products to do whatever I want with me being stuck trying to make a concept work with just the Paizo printed stuff I'm a bit at a loss so I need some advice.
1) I wanted to play with the Occult classes since I haven't messed around with those all that much yet and got attached to the idea of mimicking a ghost. I looked towards Spiritualist and Medium but can't really find anything that really sticks with that concept. I thought about a ectoplasmic Spiritualist but its less of getting ghost powers and more about being a goofy magus. I thought the medium would be better to get ghost powers by being possessed by a ghost or even possessing myself, but that's less of ghost powers and more of being a weird version of another class. Normally I'd just build something up with Spheres of Power or have a class from Thunderscape but without that I'm having a hard time finding ways to get be a pseudo-ghost here. How do I be a ghost?
2) What are good themes for Galt character-wise? The exact nature of the campaign is under wraps aside from 'Galt'. I went with being an executioner's son who was ostracized before being mentored by a noble interested in an innate supernatural talent I had but wanted to keep that loose enough to be able to adjust to whatever the theme is. Some sort of vigilante was around my second choice if I fail to make the ghost thing work the way I want it to.
3) Since the ectoplacmic Spiritualist was my first choice, What are good ways to make a strength focused version of it? Without dex to damage it seems not that great to go full on dex with it but I've never made a STR magus.
4) One thing about the medium that possesses themselves, the reanimated medium, I assume the rules mean that you choose a legendary spirit and you just choose that instead of being able to channel multiple spirits.
5) If all else fails I want to wield a chain and do supernatural stuff with it. What are good combat feats/builds for chain wielding with just the paizo rules? related: does the hangman vigilante's abilities work for a chain?
Themes for Galt...hmm, someone from the former nobility or a previous defeated regime laying low or plotting (re)conquest, a random dude/tte trying to take vengeance on a currently powerful demagogue for killing a relative/loved one/friend, disillusioned enforcer (or a double agent posing as one), a non-human or another foreigner trying to survive and profit from the chaos,
As for actually being a ghost, well, Undead Anatomy IV gives that but you need to be a high-level sorcerer or wizard for it. Anything that temporarily turns you ethereal can serve in a pinch, though. For a somewhat lower level solution, Shadow projection is cool, but normally only limited to sorcerers and wizards - check with your DM if he/she would allow it in your case. Also, your shadow can be attacked and if it is "killed", you are in trouble.
Ghostly stuff:
Haunted oracle/ urban spirit totem barbarian. Maybe go for Rage Prophet prestige class.
Possessed shaman (ancestors spirit, lord spirit or maybe slums?)
Add a bit of psychometric vigilante?
Take a look at Gray Gardener/Gray Warden prc too.
Hangman Vigilante is very cool for a Galtan son of an executioner. Forget about the chain, use the noose!
Did you see the spirit channeler archetype for the medium?
I would find Geist channeled spiritualist more apropos than Ectoplasmatist.
There's the Haunted archetype that focuses more on the ghost than you, and fractured mind makes the ghost your subconcious.
A few Psychic things could work. Psychic Disciplines have a lot of things, some might fit being a ghost. and Formless Adept turns into gas.
Exciter spiritualist might be helpful in making a combat spiritualist.
Aether kineticist.
It is the one that literally goes poltergeist as its primary thing. Use the kitchen knives as a primary form of attack and then have the furniture suddenly rise up to try to murder people.
You can also throw on kinetic form so your squishy flesh body is suspended out of large body made up of your spiritul stuff.
It generally has the signs of being pseudo ghost. It doesn't explicitly have "ooooo~ you are a ghooo~st" on it, but being that focused on names and descriptions restricts people to core rogues when they want to be the sneaky guy... In practice, you are throwing around a bunch of ghost/poltergeist mechanics. Just make the 'strands of aether' into more explicit ghost goo (honestly, it isn't stated whether people can see the strands or not, so that is fair), and you seem good to go.
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I don't know what Galt is, but if you can't think of ANYTHING to do with just official material for your character, you've been using the wrong Third-Party stuff.
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I don't know what Galt is, but if you can't think of ANYTHING to do with just official material for your character, you've been using the wrong Third-Party stuff.
No, it just means he's not as fully immersed into first party things or he hasn't found proper first party options in order to flesh his character concept out in a way that would be fun for him. Nothing "wrong" about that at all.
Oooooh, it's some "intrigue" bullshit. Just don't play a Vigilante.
what about a Formless Adept Psychic and then use either Variant Multiclass or the Eldrich Heritage feats for Sorcerer - Undead Bloodline
Would give you a gradually increasing in power incorporeal body plus some undead-like traits
I don't know what Galt is, but if you can't think of ANYTHING to do with just official material for your character, you've been using the wrong Third-Party stuff.Galt = Les Misérables.
Actually Les Miserables takes place like 40 years after the Revolution.
Think more of a grimmer Scarlet Pimpernel, or if you know French literature, Le Chevalier de Maison Rouge.
Oooooh, it's some "intrigue" b*$@&+&@. Just don't play a Vigilante.Well, Vigilantes are thematically appropriate to the region. It's the home of the Red Raven, and the Gray Gardeners have a lot of Zealots in their ranks.
The Vigilante was designed specifically to play in a whole party of Vigilantes. Most of what they have doesn't work very well any other way, especially because of Dual Identity. You can't be seen too often associating with the party in one identity or the other, limiting group time in public areas mostly to one of your identities. You also have to switch identities if you need to fight while in your social identity, and you need to not stay with the group, at least openly, to take advantage of Startling Appearance (unless you're Small and have the Go Unnoticed feat). You basically HAVE to get Many Guises and Quick Change as soon as possible just to function in a group, and those talents aren't available until 5th and 7th levels respectively.
1) There are some good ghost options, don't worry. Probably the best is Haunted Spiritualist. You play the phantom as your character, and you've got a dedicated 6/9 caster under your control that can heal you, buff you, and cast touch spells on your behalf. Not on that, but your caster can handle social situations that your ghostly form will have difficulty with. In trouble? Either hide in your pet's brain, or drain their standard actions to get a quick Enlarge Person. (At high levels, Overwhelming Phantom allows some basic possession stuff without relying on your pet caster.)
Formless Adept Psychic works increasingly well as a pseudo-ghost if you don't care for playing a phantom as your character.
As mentioned, Aether Kineticist is a good fit. At-will psuedo-invisibility and telekinetic abilities makes it pretty easy to go around doing ghostly things, although you'll have to "manifest" (become visible) in order to attack somebody. There are some other really thematic options later on, like being able to animate objects (thus allowing you to attack people indirectly without appearing).
If you want less "ghost" and more "spirit", you can have something of a zeitgeist character with the Intrigue or Streets mysteries for Oracles or Slums spirit for Shaman.
2) Themes of vengeance, anger, injustice, and rebellion are all appropriate. Galt has more or less started devouring itself, and everybody around is terrified of poking it, lest it turn on them instead.
4) Nope! You are essentially channeling your own future potential- all the things destiny might have in store for you. You might talk to the GM about playing a reckless Medium of the normal variety, with little enough self-preservation that you'll get killed and come back as a (somewhat wiser) Reincarnated Medium.
5) Best supernatural chain shenanigans is (once again) Aether Kineticist. Since you can use anything held in one hand for an Kinetic Blade with Aether, a short chain works fine. No melee feats needed except for Weapon Finesse. Once you're 8th level, you can start using Kinetic Whip freely, getting a proper long chain. (Combat Reflexes becomes a good idea here.)
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The Vigilante was designed specifically to play in a whole party of Vigilantes. Most of what they have doesn't work very well any other way, especially because of Dual Identity. You can't be seen too often associating with the party in one identity or the other, limiting group time in public areas mostly to one of your identities. You also have to switch identities if you need to fight while in your social identity, and you need to not stay with the group, at least openly, to take advantage of Startling Appearance (unless you're Small and have the Go Unnoticed feat). You basically HAVE to get Many Guises and Quick Change as soon as possible just to function in a group, and those talents aren't available until 5th and 7th levels respectively.
That's simply not true.
A Vigilante can just walk around in Vigilante Identity with the party, occasionally using the Social Identity for other specific stuff away from them, and do fine.
Or he can disdain a secret identity and use all his abilities from both identities freely (technically in the Social Identity), losing only the ability to have two separate identities.
Or he can walk around in social identity and then kill everyone who sees him fight (aside from the other PCs) if he has to fight in it. The only risk of using Vigilante Identity abilities in social identity is having the two identities connected, after all.
It's really doable, and Vigilante is still awesome under those circumstances.
For Galt possible to take mesmerist. Hate-Monger Archetype.
acquire ghost template?
I can help with that.
*licks knife*