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Has anyone seen (or created) a picture of anybody fighting a foe with a bladed scarf? That item is one of the more difficult weapons for me (and probably other people) to picture somebody fighting with, so an illustrated example could prove very useful.
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There's also a picture of a Sister of Eiseth using a bladed scarf (and pentagram shuriken!) on page 20 of What Lies in Dust, part three of Council of Thieves. It's depicted as long strip of canvas with three dagger-like blades affixed to each of its narrow ends. So, it appears to be similar in concept to a rope dart, though it's hard to see that version being a particularly effective as a slashing weapon.
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As promised:
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Chelaxian monks using Varisian weapons(?)
Eh, they'd probably just tell you that the bladed scarf (like all useful and ingenious things) was first created in Hell, and that those dirty, ignorant, thieving Varisians are all the more pathetic for trying to take credit for it.
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Chelaxian monks using Varisian weapons(?)Eh, they'd probably just tell you that the bladed scarf (like all useful and ingenious things) was first created in Hell, and that those dirty, ignorant, thieving Varisians are all the more pathetic for trying to take credit for it.
I hereby declare this to be their canonical explanation. ^_^
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There's a good one on p. 44 in the Hell's Rebels AP's A Song of Silver. That scarf looks quite nasty, with 5 dagger-points attached to each side. Unfortunately I couldn't find the pic on the web for you through image search.
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It's not quite a blade scarf, but have you seen the "echo game" scene from the 2004 movie, Shi Mian Mai Fu (House of Flying Daggers)? Mei dual-wielding (yes, really) her scarf in that scene, and even more so in
is much how I picture a bladed scarf in combat.
And if you haven't seen HoFD, I'd highly recommend the entire movie... although there is a strong possibility it will leave you wanting a "flying daggers" rogue/slayer archetype.
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It seems Razcar is correct... art of the Varisian scarf-dancer from A Song of Silver simply hasn't been uploaded to the Internet before now.
Fortunately, there's an app for that. ^_^
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There's a picture of the NPC Ayala Javeski weilding a bladed scarf on p. 33 of Shards of Sin..
I found several instances of that picture on the Internet, but I couldn't find it on either Paizo's blog or on the artist's site, so I'm not linking to an image here. (Actually, I'm not entirely sure who the artist is; I checked out the pages of every featured artist listed in that AP volume, and didn't find the image.)
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The Juppongatana member Cho from Ruroni Kenshin wields a sword that's kind of like a bladed scarf, which he wears around his midsection.
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The Juppongatana member Cho from Ruroni Kenshin wields a sword that's kind of like a bladed scarf, which he wears around his midsection.
I'm fairly certain that's supposed to be an urumi, which I believe we already have stats for separate from the bladed scarf.
It's interesting; the creative team seems to have a pretty clear idea of what a bladed scarf looks like, but every image I see convinces me more that it should really do piercing damage rather than slashing.
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I'm fairly certain that's supposed to be an urumi, which I believe we already have stats for separate from the bladed scarf.
It's interesting; the creative team seems to have a pretty clear idea of what a bladed scarf looks like, but every image I see convinces me more that it should really do piercing damage rather than slashing.
I was thinking urumi for that character as well. I think they're referenced as being worn like belts somewhere.
As for the bladed scarf, I imagine the wielder raking those blades at the end across a foe... hence the slashing damage. ^_^
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It seems Razcar is correct... art of the Varisian scarf-dancer from A Song of Silver simply hasn't been uploaded to the Internet before now.
Fortunately, there's an app for that. ^_^
Thank you very much! I think I like this image best of the three offered.
Of course, even this one makes the blades a bit too obvious -- it is supposed to be a subtle weapon, after all. But I guess it would not be obvious that it is a weapon at all if the blades were at all hidden.
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The blades might be attached with small springs within the fabric, so that they only pop out when the scarf is swung.
It's funny, because the first image of a bladed scarf I've ever seen - and the image that consistently informs my every concept - is the blue and yellow scarf that has a line of serrated blades down one side*, as opposed to the knife-like things at the end. I've spent a great deal of time trying to envision how dancing with this old one and using it in combat would be viable ().
It makes it very weird to re-imagine it with blades at the end of the scarves instead. That weird heavy-angling should be strange and hard to deal slashing damage. It's definitely harder to hide, and the weight distribution is likely all thrown off, but it might be more sustainable as a combat weapon - the primary problem becomes that it seems like it's vulnerable to sundering or damage, getting accidentally tangled or torn (its own blades sticking into the cloth), and getting the full heft of the weapon into the swings (meaning it seems difficult to add your full strength damage to it).
Still a cool weapon. Just hard to see how it works one way or the other. Worth thinking about.
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Of course, then there's this monstrosity (from here) which seems... awful. I'm sure there's some mechanism that can be faked to make it work, but the fact that he's wearing it while its got the blades flared out like that, and it's loose and flipping around is... terrifying, really.
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It makes it very weird to re-imagine it with blades at the end of the scarves instead. That weird heavy-angling should be strange and hard to deal slashing damage. It's definitely harder to hide, and the weight distribution is likely all thrown off, but it might be more sustainable as a combat weapon - the primary problem becomes that it seems like it's vulnerable to sundering or damage, getting accidentally tangled or torn (its own blades sticking into the cloth), and getting the full heft of the weapon into the swings (meaning it seems difficult to add your full strength damage to it).
Still a cool weapon. Just hard to see how it works one way or the other. Worth thinking about.
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That is one reason I favored Kalindlara's "there's an app for that" link over the other two -- it has the sharp bits coming from the side rather than the end of the scarf, and it is easier to picture the actual usage of the weapon. If you make it wrap around the target, you can do a trip or disarm, while if you make the sharp bits hit the target, it can do slashing damage as you pull the scarf back.
Huh. Looked like the same basic design with slightly different style of blades to me. But either way, it's a pretty cool weapon, just not always easy to visualize.
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Huh. Looked like the same basic design with slightly different style of blades to me. But either way, it's a pretty cool weapon, just not always easy to visualize.
Agreed, I'm fairly certain that if you look again you'll find that the blades on that scarf are attached to the ends.
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Huh. Looked like the same basic design with slightly different style of blades to me. But either way, it's a pretty cool weapon, just not always easy to visualize.Agreed, I'm fairly certain that if you look again you'll find that the blades on that scarf are attached to the ends.
Now that I look at it again, I see what you mean. The front (left) part of the scarf is not completely clear in terms of blade location, but presumably it is meant to match the back (right) end, which clearly does have the blades at the end and not along the side.
I will have to look at the Inner Sea World Guide when I get home -- I only have that one in physical form.
I did get a look at it last night. The bladed scarf in the Inner Sea World Guide is not being wielded by anybody, so it provides next to no guidance as to what this weapon looks like in action.
So, it appears to be similar in concept to a rope dart, though it's hard to see that version being a particularly effective as a slashing weapon.
A scarf with blades on the end will fly about like the end of a whip. It will be very easy to "crack" the scarf leaving a long slash against whatever you hit.
Making a piercing attack means that you need to send the end directly at the target, while keeping the rest of the scarf out of the way of the end. Something I would think much harder to do.
I found an image of the blue and yellow scarf.
/cevah
Still not as cool as the skirt blades from the Quintessential Elf, for which there is, sadly, no picture.
Skirt Blades: A group of five or six blades 3-inches
long hang from thick leather strips or thin chains,
which hang from a belt. Skirt blades see use almost
exclusively by female practitioners of the bladedance
style, who attack by swirling around or by holding the
foremost strips in their hands. Choosing the Exotic
Weapon Proficiency allows a wielder to use skirt blades
as a double weapon with both strips, but it takes a
bladedancer to use all of them in a single attack (see the
Secrets of the Elves chapter). The strips or chain of the
skirt blades allows the wielder to threaten an area up to
10 ft. away, but are too weak to allow trip attacks.