Is there any way for prepared spellcasters to get extra 0-level slots?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion

Scarab Sages

The Extra Cantrips or Orisons feat seems to be only for spontaneous spellcasters - is there ANY way out there for prepared spellcasters to add to their Cantrip slots? It would be really helpful for my Magus (just so we're clear, I'm looking for something Pathfinder Society-admissible).


There's the trait Greater Adept of the Society, but it is only for wizards.


There is an ioun stone that adds an extra cantrip. Buy as many as necessary.

Grand Lodge

You can perpare a 0-level spell in a 1st level slot.


DeathMvp wrote:
You can perpare a 0-level spell in a 1st level slot.

But if you do so, than it's one use only.


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
The Extra Cantrips or Orisons feat seems to be only for spontaneous spellcasters - is there ANY way out there for prepared spellcasters to add to their Cantrip slots? It would be really helpful for my Magus (just so we're clear, I'm looking for something Pathfinder Society-admissible).

Spontaneous spellcasters have a limit on what cantrips they can know. Wizards can know all of them but only have 4 ready to go at a time.


The cracked orange prism ioun stone adds 1 cantrip or orison to the casters list of spells known or prepared.

Scarab Sages

Snowlilly wrote:

The cracked orange prism ioun stone adds 1 cantrip or orison to the casters list of spells known or prepared.

I'd prefer a feat/trait if there's one out there (that a Magus can take), but that's something.


Only thing I can think of is Gloves of the Cheating Apprentice. Your Mage Hand range is going to be just 30' (CL 3, 25' + 5'/2 levels), but otherwise those are two 'free' cantrip slots for someone who has to prepare them. Oh, and it means no other glove slot items.


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Jaxom Dragonheart wrote:
There's the trait Greater Adept of the Society, but it is only for wizards.

The Archives of Nethys lists it as wizards only, but the original source book, The Shattered Star Player's Guide, does not.


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Hero Lab does not list wizard as a requirement, either, and allows you to add it to a magus. Not that HL is a final say, it's just evidence contrary to the Archives of Nethys.


taks wrote:
Jaxom Dragonheart wrote:
There's the trait Greater Adept of the Society, but it is only for wizards.
The Archives of Nethys lists it as wizards only, but the original source book, The Shattered Star Player's Guide, does not.

Slight correction, the original source is PCS:Faction Guide, where it is wizard specific. SSPG came out later and removed that tag, along with the class tag on a number of other -of the Society traits.


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Ah, makes sense.

Scarab Sages

So what's the final verdict there? This seems rather important (of course, if it's a Magic category trait, my Magus already has one).

Any other options out there?


Extra Cantrips or Orisons
You are a master of minor spells.

Prerequisites: Ability to cast cantrips or orisons.
Benefit: Add two cantrips to your cantrips known or two orisons to your orisons known.
Special: You can take this feat multiple times.
Each time you do, add two cantrips or orisons to your spells known.

Ultimate Magic page 150


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"Known" does not equal "prepared". Most prepared spellcasters already "know" all cantrips on their spell lists.

That "Greater Adept of the Society" trait is a better bet. Download the free Shattered Star Player's Guide to get a source that does not limit you to being a wizard if it matters.

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