Eldritch Knight and Arcane Discoveries


Rules Questions


I'm pretty sure this doesn't work this way, but if I was a Level 11 Character (Fighter 1/Wizard 5/Eldritch Knight 5), could I qualify for the Idealize Arcane Discovery?

Relevant Quotes:
Arcane Discoveries
"A wizard can learn an arcane discovery in place of a regular feat or wizard bonus feat."

Eldritch Knight's Diverse Training
"An eldritch knight adds his level to any levels of fighter he might have for the purpose of meeting the prerequisites for feats (if he has no fighter levels, treat his eldritch knight levels as levels of fighter). He also adds his level to any levels in an arcane spellcasting class for the purpose of meeting the prerequisites for feats."

Idealize (Su)
"Prerequisite(s): Wizard 10

In your quest for self-perfection, you have discovered a way to further enhance yourself and others.

Benefit(s): When a transmutation spell you cast grants an enhancement bonus to an ability score, that bonus increases by 2. At 20th level, the bonus increases by 4."

Like I said, I don't think it works that way, but it would be nice if it did, thus why I feel it's worth the double check.

Silver Crusade Contributor

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Unfortunately, arcane discoveries are not feats, although they work like them in 99% of ways. So, by RAW, no.

That said, I'd almost certainly allow it in a home game, as it seems to be wholly in the spirit of the eldritch knight's ability. ^_^

Silver Crusade Contributor

(Since Hero Lab treats the arcane discoveries as feats, I'm interested to see if it would allow this...)


Shucks, I figured as much.

Dark Archive

I'm not sure, it sounds like it should work, but by the RAW it doesn't. I would say that in my Home game I would allow it.


It looks like the EK's ability was made for just such contingencies. I don't know if what you propose is PFS legal, but I'd certainly allow it at my table.

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