Sieglord |
This is utter nonsense.If somebody is overweight and you choose to ridicule them for it, it is insulting even though it is true.
If you mock someone's disability, it is insulting.
It is entirely possible to state the truth and make a personal attack at the same time. Being courteous in one's personal interactions can go a long way.
I respectfully disagree on almost all of your points.
"Overweight" is, in nearly all instances, a choice. You can tell the difference between those for whom it is a choice and those for whom it is a genuine medical condition by whether or not they hide behind it. If you are unable to tell the difference, watch their hands. People with a real medical condition will be using their hands for some sort of exercise, whereas those for whom it is a choice will be whining about their "medical condition" with a Big Mac in their hands.
I should also like to point out that there is a marked difference between stating the truth ("You're overweight because you eat too much bad food and do no exercise."), and outright mockery ("Haha! Look at the fatty!").
Everything you are most likely thinking about me right now IS true...I am vicious, cruel, spiteful, full of hate, consumed by rage, and utterly opportunistic...but I am also fair. And I agree that mocking a person for their disability would make one a douche-nozzle. It's a good thing that this thread ( and my comments) had nothing to do with mockery, and everything to do with truth (which, by the way, plays no favourites, and spares nobody's feelings).
I agree with you when you state the value of courtesy...but I should also like to point out the detrimental effect of coddling people. Our nation as a whole might be a good deal healthier, for instance, if our society didn't coddle the feelings of those who could do something about their condition, and instead subjected them to the ridicule that might motivate them to take useful action to remedy their situation. Peer pressure can sometimes be a very useful motivating factor.
Studpuffin |
To say you pity someone their ignorance is a way of saying that you do not fear them intellectually.
But usually if someone feels the need to say that they are not afraid of something, they actually are.
So I would see it as less of a personal attack and more of an admission of weakness.
Nice way of looking at it! If you can't say something nice, it's probably because you're ascared. ;)
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Ralph Wiggum |
Kortz wrote:Nice way of looking at it! If you can't say something nice, it's probably because you're ascared. ;)To say you pity someone their ignorance is a way of saying that you do not fear them intellectually.
But usually if someone feels the need to say that they are not afraid of something, they actually are.
So I would see it as less of a personal attack and more of an admission of weakness.
Me am scared of ugly puffin-crows.
mcbobbo |
Also...
Only a Sith deals in absolutes!
That and all generalizations are false.
Rhetorical traps are fun!
Anyway, back to topic -
'Pity' isn't something you say to someone's face without the desire to invoke a negative response from them. 'Ignorance' is middle ground - depending on the context it could go either way.
Studpuffin |
Studpuffin wrote:Me am scared of ugly puffin-crows.Kortz wrote:Nice way of looking at it! If you can't say something nice, it's probably because you're ascared. ;)To say you pity someone their ignorance is a way of saying that you do not fear them intellectually.
But usually if someone feels the need to say that they are not afraid of something, they actually are.
So I would see it as less of a personal attack and more of an admission of weakness.
Scared like your mama...
Ralph Wiggum |
Ralph Wiggum wrote:Scared like your mama...Studpuffin wrote:Me am scared of ugly puffin-crows.Kortz wrote:Nice way of looking at it! If you can't say something nice, it's probably because you're ascared. ;)To say you pity someone their ignorance is a way of saying that you do not fear them intellectually.
But usually if someone feels the need to say that they are not afraid of something, they actually are.
So I would see it as less of a personal attack and more of an admission of weakness.
Are you my mommy now?
*hug*
godsDMit |
Ignorance, I pity.
Yours or anyone else's.
Is that an attack?
Very nice, but your first line has 6 syllables.
As for the topic, Id say it can be, depending on the context. The problem is that even in cases where it isnt meant as an attack, it can be taken as one. I may be (to borrow a phrase already used in this thread) a rude git, but really there is only so much you can do to keep people from being offended. If they arent willing to shelter themselves, thats their fault.
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Sebastian wrote:She says hello, by the way.Callous Jack wrote:I PITY YOUR MOM!!!Sebastian wrote:I pity your tardiness.Damnit. Leave the low hanging fruit for the specially abled.
Also, well played thread, sir puffin.
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Tell her I say "Hi, Skittles Breath." She'll know what it means.
Spanky the Leprechaun |
Callous Jack wrote:Tell her I say "Hi, Skittles Breath." She'll know what it means.Sebastian wrote:She says hello, by the way.Callous Jack wrote:I PITY YOUR MOM!!!Sebastian wrote:I pity your tardiness.Damnit. Leave the low hanging fruit for the specially abled.
Also, well played thread, sir puffin.
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Does your mom still scratch her scalp for bacon bits?
Sebastian's Mother |
Sebastian wrote:Does your mom still scratch her scalp for bacon bits?Callous Jack wrote:Tell her I say "Hi, Skittles Breath." She'll know what it means.Sebastian wrote:She says hello, by the way.Callous Jack wrote:I PITY YOUR MOM!!!Sebastian wrote:I pity your tardiness.Damnit. Leave the low hanging fruit for the specially abled.
Also, well played thread, sir puffin.
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Yes, why do you ask?
Callous Jack |
Callous Jack wrote:Tell her I say "Hi, Skittles Breath." She'll know what it means.Sebastian wrote:She says hello, by the way.Callous Jack wrote:I PITY YOUR MOM!!!Sebastian wrote:I pity your tardiness.Damnit. Leave the low hanging fruit for the specially abled.
Also, well played thread, sir puffin.
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She hasn't sat on a rainbow in months...
AM BARBARIAN |
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BARBARIAN AM NOT WANT PITY FOR IGNORANCE. IGNORANCE AM WHY BARBARIAN AWESOME.
SQUISHY PUNCH THROUGH MAGIC WITH LANCE? NO? THAT BECAUSE SQUISHY KNOW NOT POSSIBLE. BARBARIAN ONLY NEED 7 INT; CAN PUNCH MAGIC BECAUSE BARBARIAN NOT KNOW MAGIC NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK THAT WAY.
PITY NOT IGNORANCE. NON-CRAPPY BARBARIAN AM PITY KNOWLEDGE.