paizo.com Recent Posts in Life oracle... Why?paizo.com Recent Posts in Life oracle... Why?2016-09-27T17:21:27Z2016-09-27T17:21:27ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Vatrashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#472016-10-01T11:52:02Z2016-10-01T11:52:02Z<p>I have the relevation, but never used it yet. It is the stupid standard action to activate it...</p>
<p>(If there was only a way to quicken such abilities.)</p>I have the relevation, but never used it yet. It is the stupid standard action to activate it...
(If there was only a way to quicken such abilities.)Vatras2016-10-01T11:52:02ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Cavallhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#462016-10-01T08:08:51Z2016-10-01T08:08:51Z<p>Works for me.</p>Works for me.Cavall2016-10-01T08:08:51ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?TriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#452016-10-01T07:41:15Z2016-10-01T07:41:15Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Energy Body wrote:</div><blockquote>As a standard action, you can transform your body into pure life energy, resembling a golden-white fire elemental. In this form, <b>you gain the elemental subtype</b> and give off a warm, welcoming light that increases the light level within 10 feet by one step, up to normal light.</blockquote><p>There it is.Energy Body wrote:As a standard action, you can transform your body into pure life energy, resembling a golden-white fire elemental. In this form, you gain the elemental subtype and give off a warm, welcoming light that increases the light level within 10 feet by one step, up to normal light.
There it is.TriOmegaZero2016-10-01T07:41:15ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Cavallhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#442016-10-01T07:38:27Z2016-10-01T07:38:27Z<p>Earlier it was mentioned that you get to be an actual elemental with all immunities thereof.</p>
<p>That verified? I've got to know.</p>Earlier it was mentioned that you get to be an actual elemental with all immunities thereof.
That verified? I've got to know.Cavall2016-10-01T07:38:27ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Divvox2https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#432016-10-01T07:25:14Z2016-10-01T07:25:14Z<p>I went the route of a debuff life Oracle (of Zon-Kuthon). Perhaps not optimized but very thematic as I can channel and curse/fear opponents willy-nilly. He isn't terribly high level yet but I've been enjoying him a lot so far! </p>
<p>For those asking why, because keeping PCs alive longer means they can suffer more in the name of Zon-Kuthon!</p>I went the route of a debuff life Oracle (of Zon-Kuthon). Perhaps not optimized but very thematic as I can channel and curse/fear opponents willy-nilly. He isn't terribly high level yet but I've been enjoying him a lot so far!
For those asking why, because keeping PCs alive longer means they can suffer more in the name of Zon-Kuthon!Divvox22016-10-01T07:25:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Soluzarhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#422016-09-28T23:56:00Z2016-09-28T23:56:00Z<p>I love this option so much I made two for PFS. My first is level 15. Only one character has died on my watch, it was from Con drain from an undead that I turned to ashes the next round.</p>
<p>It's not just about healing. You can do a lot more. Buffing is a good side role. With a high enough charisma and the right skills you can be a great diplomancer. </p>
<p>Overall, I love this option because I have had people cheer when I bring these characters out at a table. They can concentrate on kicking ass. I concentrate on keeping them alive. Personally, I think we have more than enough options for dealing damage.</p>I love this option so much I made two for PFS. My first is level 15. Only one character has died on my watch, it was from Con drain from an undead that I turned to ashes the next round.
It's not just about healing. You can do a lot more. Buffing is a good side role. With a high enough charisma and the right skills you can be a great diplomancer.
Overall, I love this option because I have had people cheer when I bring these characters out at a table. They can concentrate on kicking ass. I...Soluzar2016-09-28T23:56:00ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Cory Stafford 29https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#412016-09-28T23:42:00Z2016-09-28T23:42:00Z<p>I played a life oracle built around channeling in a carrion crown game. It was pretty effective, and more fun than most healers. I could nuke undead or heal up to three times a round. It is one of the few builds that can heal enough damage at higher levels to be worth the actions. It also has the full cleric list, so you can do buffing, status removal, summoning, and fun things like flame strike and blade barrier.</p>I played a life oracle built around channeling in a carrion crown game. It was pretty effective, and more fun than most healers. I could nuke undead or heal up to three times a round. It is one of the few builds that can heal enough damage at higher levels to be worth the actions. It also has the full cleric list, so you can do buffing, status removal, summoning, and fun things like flame strike and blade barrier.Cory Stafford 292016-09-28T23:42:00ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Bazaku Ambrosuishttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#402016-09-28T23:07:25Z2016-09-28T23:07:25Z<p>I just readed the mercifull curse (3PP) With that you have a freaking oradin with no level dip into pally, full cast, full lay on hands progression and mercy.
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Yeah, you have to heal an ADJACENT ally if they are harmed but you have free action lifelink, elemental form (free heal if they are adjacent) or move action channel... if none of these is enought you can swift action heal him.</p>I just readed the mercifull curse (3PP) With that you have a freaking oradin with no level dip into pally, full cast, full lay on hands progression and mercy.
Yeah, you have to heal an ADJACENT ally if they are harmed but you have free action lifelink, elemental form (free heal if they are adjacent) or move action channel... if none of these is enought you can swift action heal him.Bazaku Ambrosuis2016-09-28T23:07:25ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?NenkotaMoonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#392016-09-28T18:40:15Z2016-09-28T18:40:15Z<p>Everyone loves a good support. In fact, now a days I don't really like playing characters that are heavy frontline or magic domination but sitting in the back, buffing, debuffing, and healing. To me, it's a team game and a Life Oracle can be very good at such.</p>Everyone loves a good support. In fact, now a days I don't really like playing characters that are heavy frontline or magic domination but sitting in the back, buffing, debuffing, and healing. To me, it's a team game and a Life Oracle can be very good at such.NenkotaMoon2016-09-28T18:40:15ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Firebug (alias of Christian Baldus)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#382016-09-28T18:19:14Z2016-09-28T18:19:14Z<p>If you don't want to healbot as a life oracle, take the spirit guide archetype for the life aspect, and then choose flame mystery for fireball/wall of fire/firestorm things when people don't need healed.</p>
<p>I imagine the enemies being a little surprised when the healer turns into a fire elemental and starts nuking them.</p>If you don't want to healbot as a life oracle, take the spirit guide archetype for the life aspect, and then choose flame mystery for fireball/wall of fire/firestorm things when people don't need healed.
I imagine the enemies being a little surprised when the healer turns into a fire elemental and starts nuking them.Firebug (alias of Christian Baldus)2016-09-28T18:19:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Vatrashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#372016-09-28T18:03:08Z2016-09-28T18:03:08Z<p>The strength of the class lies in that it gets to do all the healing/curing the system offers, but it is also a good buffer/enabler of the group, and can cast offensive spells in a pitch. It brings the strength of all spontaneous casters to the table, too: it can hammer any known spell home as often as needed, and can mod them on the fly.
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It is all of that bundled together which works.</p>
<p>Consider this fight:
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Invisible dragon attacks with his breath, everyone eats 120 damage, the fear aura kicks in. The life oracle saves, does a quickened remove fear on the affected fighter and a mass heal to off-set the breath. The dragon lands on one of the others (would be dead without the heal) and dishes out 90 damage. The oracle eats half from the standing shield other and does a channel and a quickened blessing of fervor.
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Well, the rest was predictable: communal protection from energy to get into the forehand, communal airwalk, and finally shooting down the fleeing dragon together with the wizard.
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The thing is: without a real healer the fight is over in round two, and no wand of CLW or lay on hands can save the party. With the oracle present, the group wins. Buffing the group is important here, since it frees the arcane casters to do damage instead of getting the melees into the fight (with fly in this case). It is to consider that with the oracle taking one for the team (= not going into the offense) he keeps everyone else going at full speed. It is important what the others don't have to do, because the healer/buffer is doing it for them. </p>
<p>In another fight I had the chance to assist our casters and we nuked the enemy band togther...I have also provided us with protective spells so the casters could nuke the enemy and us in close quarters, which was hilarious at the time (But you are all standing in the AE! Yesss...).</p>
<p>At lower levels it is not heal and mass heal, but channeling, lifelink and use of the more efficient healing spells (like greater path of glory), which lose much later on. Having mass heal as 8th level spell is a huge advantage at high levels, as you can cast 12 of them, if you feel like it, while clerics must use their 9th level slots.
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You have always to judge what action will be best to be efficient: command an enemy, counterspell a sorcerer, whack someone with the mace (giving flanking aid), dispel the enemy, use a nuke (I still love the wand of fireballs I had; it's a staff now), or actually heal. Healing during the fight happens only when you have to...but the option (and safety) is always there.</p>The strength of the class lies in that it gets to do all the healing/curing the system offers, but it is also a good buffer/enabler of the group, and can cast offensive spells in a pitch. It brings the strength of all spontaneous casters to the table, too: it can hammer any known spell home as often as needed, and can mod them on the fly.
It is all of that bundled together which works.
Consider this fight:
Invisible dragon attacks with his breath, everyone eats 120 damage, the fear aura...Vatras2016-09-28T18:03:08ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?kyrt-ryderhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#362016-09-28T17:54:14Z2016-09-28T17:54:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">kyrt-ryder wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">bodhranist wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">kyrt-ryder wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.</p>
<p>Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.</p>
<p></blockquote>Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... </blockquote>Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles. </blockquote>Silly ranist, everyone knows Druids don't sell things. Or eat. </blockquote>Druids spend a good deal of time as wild animals. I have it on good authority that wild animals did well enough for themselves before the invention of McDonalds. On a more serious note, living off the land is part of the Survival skill and that's a class skill for them. </blockquote><p>It was actually a joke about not harming any life. Druids eat quite well I imagine.Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:kyrt-ryder wrote: bodhranist wrote: kyrt-ryder wrote: Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.
Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.
Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles. Silly ranist, everyone knows Druids don't sell things. Or eat. Druids spend a good deal of time as wild animals. I have it on good authority...kyrt-ryder2016-09-28T17:54:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Drahliana Moonrunnerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#352016-09-28T17:50:45Z2016-09-28T17:50:45Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">kyrt-ryder wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">bodhranist wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">kyrt-ryder wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.</p>
<p>Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.</p>
<p></blockquote>Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... </blockquote>Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles. </blockquote>Silly ranist, everyone knows Druids don't sell things. Or eat. </blockquote><p>Druids spend a good deal of time as wild animals. I have it on good authority that wild animals did well enough for themselves before the invention of McDonalds. On a more serious note, living off the land is part of the Survival skill and that's a class skill for them.kyrt-ryder wrote:bodhranist wrote: kyrt-ryder wrote: Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.
Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.
Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles. Silly ranist, everyone knows Druids don't sell things. Or eat. Druids spend a good deal of time as wild animals. I have it on good authority that wild animals did well...Drahliana Moonrunner2016-09-28T17:50:45ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?kyrt-ryderhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#342016-09-28T17:49:02Z2016-09-28T17:49:02Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">bodhranist wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">kyrt-ryder wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.</p>
<p>Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.</p>
<p></blockquote>Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... </blockquote>Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles. </blockquote><p>Silly ranist, everyone knows Druids don't sell things. Or eat.bodhranist wrote:kyrt-ryder wrote: Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.
Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.
Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles. Silly ranist, everyone knows Druids don't sell things. Or eat.kyrt-ryder2016-09-28T17:49:02ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?bodhranisthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#332016-09-28T17:45:52Z2016-09-28T17:45:52Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">kyrt-ryder wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.</p>
<p>Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.</p>
<p></blockquote>Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... </blockquote><p>Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles.kyrt-ryder wrote:Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.
Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.
Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls.... Or a trip to the woods. It's 3rd for druids, and they get it earlier than oracles.bodhranist2016-09-28T17:45:52ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?kyrt-ryderhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#322016-09-28T17:17:55Z2016-09-28T17:17:55Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.</p>
<p>Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.</p>
<p></blockquote><p>Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls....Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.
Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.
Time to find a Life Oracle Apothecary to buy some cheaper emergency potions/scrolls....kyrt-ryder2016-09-28T17:17:55ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Fruian Thistlefoot (alias of Frank Kyle)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#312016-09-28T17:15:13Z2016-09-28T17:15:13Z<p>Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.</p>
<p>Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.</p>Neutralize Poison as a 3rd level spell.
Cleric gets it as a 4th level spell.Fruian Thistlefoot (alias of Frank Kyle)2016-09-28T17:15:13ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?ZZTRaiderhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#302016-09-28T16:41:17Z2016-09-28T16:41:17Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">TriOmegaZero wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Frosty Ace wrote:</div><blockquote>Another fun advantage is getting healing spells at earlier caster levels, effectively making them a better healer than a Cleric in any and every way. </blockquote>I'm not sure where you are getting this since Clerics get new spell levels earlier than Oracles. </blockquote><p>I guess it's a reference to Life Oracles getting Mass Heal as an 8th level spell, rather than a 9th? I don't see any other early access spells on the Life Mystery, though.TriOmegaZero wrote:Frosty Ace wrote:Another fun advantage is getting healing spells at earlier caster levels, effectively making them a better healer than a Cleric in any and every way.
I'm not sure where you are getting this since Clerics get new spell levels earlier than Oracles. I guess it's a reference to Life Oracles getting Mass Heal as an 8th level spell, rather than a 9th? I don't see any other early access spells on the Life Mystery, though.ZZTRaider2016-09-28T16:41:17ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Drahliana Moonrunnerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#292016-09-28T16:17:21Z2016-09-28T16:17:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">kyrt-ryder wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Derek Dalton wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Something I have noticed is healers get a bad rap. Part of that isn't so much what they do but rather how others treat the player playing one. You choose to play a Cleric or Oracle and the party goes. "Oh you're the healer. Stand in the corner if or until we need you." I have ran into this. It's almost as bad as a GM saying play what I want you to play. It happens and I hate it. I've played and seen others play Clerics that don't even consider healing. They end up being as tanked up more then the fighter trying to be the tank. Players get it in their heads that playing a cleric or oracle you are somehow limited to being only a healer.
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The term Nursebot is something I hate because it implies my character being the healer is boring even useless unless healing is needed. Other players demean and harass the player for his choices. It's one thing if someone suggests a feat or spell to make the healer a better party member. It's another for a player using a fighter to say to a healer your character sucks you can't do anything except heal. It's worse when the party not the player make the character to their expectations. This results in nothing good ever. </blockquote><p>I'm sure the fact that historically healing has been seen as a female activity has absolutely nothing to do with it.
<p>/sarcasm mode off. </blockquote><p>I'm trying to see which part is sarcasm.
<p>Treating ilness and minor injury in the home has traditiinally been seen as a woman thing, but professional healers (doctors, surgeons, field medics...) have been male dominated for several millenia and have only really gained traction in the last 1-2 centuries. </blockquote><p>You been to a doctor's office or hospital lately or look at photos of old military hospitals? The doctor's main role is to make an assessement, and its usually a nurse, typically female or a female volounteer who does the grunt work. And much of the work of healing IS grunt work.kyrt-ryder wrote:Drahliana Moonrunner wrote: Derek Dalton wrote:Something I have noticed is healers get a bad rap. Part of that isn't so much what they do but rather how others treat the player playing one. You choose to play a Cleric or Oracle and the party goes. "Oh you're the healer. Stand in the corner if or until we need you." I have ran into this. It's almost as bad as a GM saying play what I want you to play. It happens and I hate it. I've played and seen others play Clerics that don't...Drahliana Moonrunner2016-09-28T16:17:21ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Melkiadorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#282016-09-28T16:11:22Z2016-09-28T16:11:22Z<p>Even in fiction, I can't think of as many female healers as there are male. Though that may be more from males dominating the genre in general.</p>Even in fiction, I can't think of as many female healers as there are male. Though that may be more from males dominating the genre in general.Melkiador2016-09-28T16:11:22ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?kyrt-ryderhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#272016-09-28T16:04:20Z2016-09-28T16:04:20Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Derek Dalton wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Something I have noticed is healers get a bad rap. Part of that isn't so much what they do but rather how others treat the player playing one. You choose to play a Cleric or Oracle and the party goes. "Oh you're the healer. Stand in the corner if or until we need you." I have ran into this. It's almost as bad as a GM saying play what I want you to play. It happens and I hate it. I've played and seen others play Clerics that don't even consider healing. They end up being as tanked up more then the fighter trying to be the tank. Players get it in their heads that playing a cleric or oracle you are somehow limited to being only a healer.
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The term Nursebot is something I hate because it implies my character being the healer is boring even useless unless healing is needed. Other players demean and harass the player for his choices. It's one thing if someone suggests a feat or spell to make the healer a better party member. It's another for a player using a fighter to say to a healer your character sucks you can't do anything except heal. It's worse when the party not the player make the character to their expectations. This results in nothing good ever. </blockquote><p>I'm sure the fact that historically healing has been seen as a female activity has absolutely nothing to do with it.
<p>/sarcasm mode off. </blockquote><p>I'm trying to see which part is sarcasm.
<p>Treating ilness and minor injury in the home has traditiinally been seen as a woman thing, but professional healers (doctors, surgeons, field medics...) have been male dominated for several millenia and have only really gained traction in the last 1-2 centuries.</p>Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:Derek Dalton wrote:Something I have noticed is healers get a bad rap. Part of that isn't so much what they do but rather how others treat the player playing one. You choose to play a Cleric or Oracle and the party goes. "Oh you're the healer. Stand in the corner if or until we need you." I have ran into this. It's almost as bad as a GM saying play what I want you to play. It happens and I hate it. I've played and seen others play Clerics that don't even consider...kyrt-ryder2016-09-28T16:04:20ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Drahliana Moonrunnerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#262016-09-28T15:57:31Z2016-09-28T15:57:31Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Derek Dalton wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Something I have noticed is healers get a bad rap. Part of that isn't so much what they do but rather how others treat the player playing one. You choose to play a Cleric or Oracle and the party goes. "Oh you're the healer. Stand in the corner if or until we need you." I have ran into this. It's almost as bad as a GM saying play what I want you to play. It happens and I hate it. I've played and seen others play Clerics that don't even consider healing. They end up being as tanked up more then the fighter trying to be the tank. Players get it in their heads that playing a cleric or oracle you are somehow limited to being only a healer.
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The term Nursebot is something I hate because it implies my character being the healer is boring even useless unless healing is needed. Other players demean and harass the player for his choices. It's one thing if someone suggests a feat or spell to make the healer a better party member. It's another for a player using a fighter to say to a healer your character sucks you can't do anything except heal. It's worse when the party not the player make the character to their expectations. This results in nothing good ever. </blockquote><p>I'm sure the fact that historically healing has been seen as a female activity has absolutely nothing to do with it.
<p>/sarcasm mode off.</p>Derek Dalton wrote:Something I have noticed is healers get a bad rap. Part of that isn't so much what they do but rather how others treat the player playing one. You choose to play a Cleric or Oracle and the party goes. "Oh you're the healer. Stand in the corner if or until we need you." I have ran into this. It's almost as bad as a GM saying play what I want you to play. It happens and I hate it. I've played and seen others play Clerics that don't even consider healing. They end up being as...Drahliana Moonrunner2016-09-28T15:57:31ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?TriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#252016-09-28T15:40:03Z2016-09-28T15:40:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Frosty Ace wrote:</div><blockquote>Another fun advantage is getting healing spells at earlier caster levels, effectively making them a better healer than a Cleric in any and every way. </blockquote><p>I'm not sure where you are getting this since Clerics get new spell levels earlier than Oracles.Frosty Ace wrote:Another fun advantage is getting healing spells at earlier caster levels, effectively making them a better healer than a Cleric in any and every way.
I'm not sure where you are getting this since Clerics get new spell levels earlier than Oracles.TriOmegaZero2016-09-28T15:40:03ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?BretIhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#242016-09-28T15:39:20Z2016-09-28T15:39:20Z<p>Cleric doesn't have nearly as good of action economy as a Life Oracle. The life oracle can give several people something approaching fast healing 5 and aggregate the healing on to themselves.</p>
<p>The only better combat healing that I am aware of is with a Oradin, usually as a Paladin / Life Oracle although there are other options now. The lay on hands is a swift action, so the Oradin with Life Link can swift heal themselves and still have a full round action to do things in.</p>Cleric doesn't have nearly as good of action economy as a Life Oracle. The life oracle can give several people something approaching fast healing 5 and aggregate the healing on to themselves.
The only better combat healing that I am aware of is with a Oradin, usually as a Paladin / Life Oracle although there are other options now. The lay on hands is a swift action, so the Oradin with Life Link can swift heal themselves and still have a full round action to do things in.BretI2016-09-28T15:39:20ZRe: Forums: Advice: Life oracle... Why?Frosty Acehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2txcw?Life-oracle-Why#232016-09-28T15:29:48Z2016-09-28T15:29:48Z<p>There's likely no better ally in an undead heavy campaign. I had a channel focused life Oracle in one, and it was hilarious. With the ability to just make my channel DC absurd as opposed to a Cleric (Whom I feel turn undead was balanced around) with SAD charisma, it became more a concern to catch the (Fleeing) undead than surviving them. That on top of no one really being to concerned with their HP or even death.</p>
<p>Another fun advantage is getting healing spells at earlier caster levels, effectively making them a better healer than a Cleric in any and every way.</p>
<p>Don't get me started on Variant Channeling. At that point, you'll be struggling on what order your buffs should go in.</p>There's likely no better ally in an undead heavy campaign. I had a channel focused life Oracle in one, and it was hilarious. With the ability to just make my channel DC absurd as opposed to a Cleric (Whom I feel turn undead was balanced around) with SAD charisma, it became more a concern to catch the (Fleeing) undead than surviving them. That on top of no one really being to concerned with their HP or even death.
Another fun advantage is getting healing spells at earlier caster levels,...Frosty Ace2016-09-28T15:29:48Z