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Aranna wrote:

Police can usually check your plates automatically now by snapping a photo of your plate from the comfort of their car and the onboard computer then pulls up all the DMV and police info on the owner. If it has a valid tag but the computer thinks the plate is expired they then pull you over and ask for registration because they suspect you stole the tags.

So that part is probably accurate.

They don't even need to snap a photo. NY uses systems that check all plates as the cop is driving.


bugleyman wrote:

People should take responsibility for their own actions.

YOU put your face in the way of that pepper spray. YOU had your body in the same space as that cop's bullet. YOU are the one who decided to leave your house and walk the streets, despite being black.

</sarcasm> (because Poe's Law)

To be clear, this was not directed at anyone in particular; it was just my sarcastic take on how some people seem to excuse anything and everything the police do.

As has been (correctly) pointed out, reflexively condemned everything the police do is just as bad.


Caineach wrote:
Aranna wrote:

Police can usually check your plates automatically now by snapping a photo of your plate from the comfort of their car and the onboard computer then pulls up all the DMV and police info on the owner. If it has a valid tag but the computer thinks the plate is expired they then pull you over and ask for registration because they suspect you stole the tags.

So that part is probably accurate.

They don't even need to snap a photo. NY uses systems that check all plates as the cop is driving.

The link that CA shared said the cops thought the paper tags were stolen. IE, the temporary tags you get when you buy a car. They just display the date they expire. There is no "number" to run.


BigDTBone wrote:
Caineach wrote:
Aranna wrote:

Police can usually check your plates automatically now by snapping a photo of your plate from the comfort of their car and the onboard computer then pulls up all the DMV and police info on the owner. If it has a valid tag but the computer thinks the plate is expired they then pull you over and ask for registration because they suspect you stole the tags.

So that part is probably accurate.

They don't even need to snap a photo. NY uses systems that check all plates as the cop is driving.
The link that CA shared said the cops thought the paper tags were stolen. IE, the temporary tags you get when you buy a car. They just display the date they expire. There is no "number" to run.

Er, California temporary tags are exactly the opposite. They have a registration number but no expiration date.

If your car doesn't look in dealer condition (for example, it's covered in mud), then the cops might easily suspect that the tags have been stolen or are simply out-of-date.


Follow up to the Snell story:

LAPD chief hastens video release to stem tensions


‘I Can’t Breathe’: Disturbing Video Shows Father Of Four Begging Guards For Help Before He Died In Jail

From last year, but I guess the video was just released today or yesterday.


Two Chicago police officers who sodomized man with screwdriver are still on the force


Sheesh. This is why I can see why Joe Kushner wants to leave Chicago.

Also, I wish it had happened to the guy that basically raped and murder a 6 month old girl...


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Two Chicago police officers who sodomized man with screwdriver are still on the force

reads article, leaves thread to vomit

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Two Chicago police officers who sodomized man with screwdriver are still on the force

I'm actually a little shocked. I mean, I thought I was beyond shock regarding this shit.

I really and legitimately believed that since I knew people were getting away with murder for reasons like 'he was too rich to consider the consequences of his actions' that I was beyond shock (though never beyond disgust and rage) regarding people getting away with awful shit.

I appear to have been mistaken.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Sheesh. This is why I can see why Joe Kushner wants to leave Chicago.

Also, I wish it had happened to the guy that basically raped and murder a 6 month old girl...

I get the sense behind the visceral desire for retribution, but consider the implication of your words. Essentially, you're saying it's okay to rape people under certain circumstances. That rape isn't inherently wrong, but rather the context surrounding it that makes it right or wrong.

Rape by law enforcement should never be a thing.


There is a reason they call it the windy city....


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More Chicago:

OPERATION SMOKE AND MIRRORS:

In the Chicago Police Department, If the Bosses Say It Didn’t Happen, It Didn’t Happen

Four-part article about corruption, drug trafficking and cover-ups in the CPD. Will probably be up all night reading it.


When the officer slams a person onto the hood of the cruiser hard enough to break the windshield...

This one is local news for me.

Scarab Sages

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He will probably be sued for the damage he did to the police car...

Silver Crusade

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feytharn wrote:
He will probably be sued for the damage he did to the police car...

There will also be a memorial held for the noble windshield that gave it's life to protect the upstanding officers from the ruthless thug.

...

As complete and total nonsense as that is I can actually see it happening >_<


Confirmed: NFL Losing Millions Of TV Viewers Because Of National Anthem Protests

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Confirmed: NFL Losing Millions Of TV Viewers Because Of National Anthem Protests

Well the sport can't be that good if the national anthem was the thing 1/3rd of people were tuning in for.


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My two favorite Kaepernick cartoons:

1

2

Sovereign Court

Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

My two favorite Kaepernick cartoons:

1

2

I think I like the second one best, but they're both pretty spot on.


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Justice Department will track police killings


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Because Gitmo came up earlier in the thread, recent series in the NYT:

How U.S. Torture Left a Legacy of Damaged Minds: Beatings, sleep deprivation, menacing and other brutal tactics have led to persistent mental health problems among detainees held in secret C.I.A. prisons and at Guantánamo.


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For the soldiers who were involved in torture, that is up to the military regulations - and the military regulations will be judged accordingly, and the view of America will as well. In short, unless there is a serious reckoning, and a lot of involved people (symbolically) hang for it, the stain on America will remain.

But for the doctors and psychologists involved? Bundle the monsters up and send them to the ICC for crimes against humanity.


Sissyl wrote:

For the soldiers who were involved in torture, that is up to the military regulations - and the military regulations will be judged accordingly, and the view of America will as well. In short, unless there is a serious reckoning, and a lot of involved people (symbolically) hang for it, the stain on America will remain.

But for the doctors and psychologists involved? Bundle the monsters up and send them to the ICC for crimes against humanity.

There's no reason I know of that leaves military personnel outside the jurisdiction of the ICC while letting it judge civilians.


It is not about civilians or military. These people are doctors and psychologists. They should work to help people, always. Let the a*#*++&s rot in prison.


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Guy Humual wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

My two favorite Kaepernick cartoons:

1

2

I think I like the second one best, but they're both pretty spot on.

Agreed on the second one, I've had the (confederate battle) flag talk with so many people lately, even family.


Imm kinda glad I didnt read this thread in its entirety ......

as for the original post and without seeing the video all I can say is that I wasnt there and if it didnt have audio to hear what was going on then its hearsay and one sided. ( I als have no intent to watch it)

it is however unfortunate event and justice should be acquired for the girl.

LAPD home of some of the dirtiest if not dirtiest cops in the country( hey they had a dputy have a guy in jail for 40 years for something he didnt do and said deputy violated the chain of evidence too and I think they have a guy in jail for murder and used him as a scapegoat because at the time he was a minor, drunk and had a falsified ID), APD had the bloodthirsty thing going on, and Chicago currently has the thing for the racist thing going. On top of it all, I do know of a white cop in FLorida, who after one of the hurricanes that happened in the apst decade who had this one guy arrested because he said he murdered his boss. The guy is mentally disabled and he told the truth. He's not in jail but said cop is a capt last I heard and swears the man got away with murder.....

another cop around the USA was called to investigate a death, and he thinks the man's wife got away with murder too and all that one was was a really unfortunate tragic accident and she ended up moving away due to police harassment.

and here in New mexico long ago there was this state trooper who was arrested for allegedly murdering his wife, yeah guess what, his wife really did kill herself and try to mkae it look like he shot her so she could get the children and such stuff, she used a shot gun, really stupid there, she didnt plan on gettingherself killed in her own twisted sick plan either. the trooper got off, due to experts coming in and looking at the evidence and said tht it backed up his story, that oneself a rifle/shotgun could be fired in that position. Really stupid on her part though, regardless of the gage a rifle is lethal in spitting distance, and since iirc that it was a shotgun... at spitting distance .... well if you had plans to walk away from it.... see ya in the morgue on a slab with someone humming the timewarp from rocky horror.

and if your old enough to remember back in the late 1980s early 90s, there was the lady nicknamed Bambi due to her eyes at the time who was framed and was sent to jail, escaped was sent back and then released becuase her lawyer took some things to the DA which was a different DA at her original conviction, and said DA even realized it was shotty work, she was released with time served.

and in New york.... well there was this one guy who was framed for murder abd convicted by the dirty cops and the dirty DA. By law he was supposed to have copies of his affidavit and the DA's office sent his attorney all but 2 pages. Those 2 pages would ahve freed him, and during his time in prison his parent's house burns and he has to pay to get copies of the affidavit back and it included the 2 pages and guess what he gets out too.

and these are jsut what I know of.

Dont know if it would work, but whether your behind bars or not if you want to muck up the police if you feel you are being wronged, tell them you will only speak with the FBI BAU and get an attorney.

oh and I dont plan to come back to this thread either so....


Good for you punkin.


Steelfiredragon wrote:
if you want to muck up the police if you feel you are being wronged, tell them you will only speak with the FBI BAU and get an attorney

Er, the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit? What the fsck do you think they would accomplish?

I agree that if you feel you are being wronged, get an attorney. Anything beyond that, unless your attorney advises otherwise, is presumptively stupid and counterproductive.

Remember, you have the right to remain silent. That doesn't necessarily grant you the ability, unfortunately.


66-Year-Old Woman Shot, Killed by Police in Bronx Home: NYPD


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
66-Year-Old Woman Shot, Killed by Police in Bronx Home: NYPD

this isn't quite local to me, but I am following it. The officer had her immediately placed on modified duty. Most people aren't buying the story we are being told here because most people would defend themselves if a stranger appeared in the apartment out of nowhere. Hopefully more information is available.


Milwaukee officer, whose fatal shooting of black man led to riots, arrested on sexual assault charge

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
66-Year-Old Woman Shot, Killed by Police in Bronx Home: NYPD

She was black and had mental issues, that's two of the top demographics to be shot by the police. Throw in the fact that she had a baseball bat and that poor lady didn't stand a chance.


Pennsylvania Is on the Verge of Enacting a Bill That Could Hide the Identities of Cops Who Use Excessive Force


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Southern California SEIU Caucuses Call On AFL-CIO to Kick Out Police Union

Sister Wallace is a Facebook Friend. She posts all day about workers revolution and being black and nerdy. Also, some animal videos.


Voices from NYC's Most Notorious Jail: Former Prisoners Speak Out About Abuse at Rikers Island


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BLACK DISABLED LIVES MATTER: DISABILITY SOLIDARITY FOR TERENCE COLEMAN

Family disputes police account in killing of South End man


Never seen a union try to destroy another union. Well it is California I believe, which was us funny on a hypocritical sort of way.


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Conservative Anklebiter wrote:
Never seen a union try to destroy another union. Well it is California I believe, which was us funny on a hypocritical sort of way.

No? I doubt you have much experience in the labor movement, then.


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Conservative Anklebiter wrote:
Never seen a union try to destroy another union. Well it is California I believe, which was us funny on a hypocritical sort of way.
No? I doubt you have much experience in the labor movement, then.

TRAITOR TO THE CAUSE!!


Conservative Anklebiter wrote:
Never seen a union try to destroy another union.

I'm not a labor history expert, but my impression is that clashes between unionized police and unionized non-police (or trying-to-unionize non-police) are only barely less common than dirt.


Coriat wrote:
Conservative Anklebiter wrote:
Never seen a union try to destroy another union.
I'm not a labor history expert, but my impression is that clashes between unionized police and unionized non-police (or trying-to-unionize non-police) are only barely less common than dirt.

I guess that goes for autoworkers, truckers, and teachers as well with non-unions


thejeff wrote:
Sissyl wrote:

For the soldiers who were involved in torture, that is up to the military regulations - and the military regulations will be judged accordingly, and the view of America will as well. In short, unless there is a serious reckoning, and a lot of involved people (symbolically) hang for it, the stain on America will remain.

But for the doctors and psychologists involved? Bundle the monsters up and send them to the ICC for crimes against humanity.

There's no reason I know of that leaves military personnel outside the jurisdiction of the ICC while letting it judge civilians.

As I understand it, the United States does not recognize the authority of the ICC to try it's soldiers. The official reason is that it's opinion is swayed by nations that are America's enemies.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Sissyl wrote:

For the soldiers who were involved in torture, that is up to the military regulations - and the military regulations will be judged accordingly, and the view of America will as well. In short, unless there is a serious reckoning, and a lot of involved people (symbolically) hang for it, the stain on America will remain.

But for the doctors and psychologists involved? Bundle the monsters up and send them to the ICC for crimes against humanity.

There's no reason I know of that leaves military personnel outside the jurisdiction of the ICC while letting it judge civilians.
As I understand it, the United States does not recognize the authority of the ICC to try it's soldiers. The official reason is that it's opinion is swayed by nations that are America's enemies.

As I understand it, the United States doesn't recognize the authority of the ICC to try any Americans. We didn't ratify the treaty. We're not part of the Court.

Which was my point: We wouldn't turn over the soldiers. Nor would we turn over the doctors and psychologists.

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