Fun and non-verified facts about dnd / pf


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I was just thinking about how many different stories I've been told about DnD/PF that were presented to me as fact and kind of wondering how many of them were true. I'm sure some of you other guys might have the same kind of thing so I thought it might be fun to compile them and maybe verify or disprove some of them.

to give an example
One of the ones I've heard was that DnD started out as a army warhammeresk game where they had to get through a large castle to defeat the enemy so one player took a small team of characters and went in through a dungeon and came out inside and won the day. Someone said
I wonder what it was like for those guys and the idea was born. I don't know this story as fact but It always seem to ring true for me.


The campaign you are referring to was called Blackmoor , a Chainmail campaign run by Dave Arneson. Gary Gygax and Jeff Perren co-created Chainmail; Gygax would later partner with Arneson to create Dungeons & Dragons.


Dungeons and Dragons did evolve from wargaming. In fact in the early editions of the game, movement speed of creatures was expressed as inches on a battlemat, just like wargaming minatures are still done today.


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Thanis Kartaleon wrote:
The campaign you are referring to was called Blackmoor , a Chainmail campaign run by Dave Arneson. Gary Gygax and Jeff Perren co-created Chainmail; Gygax would later partner with Arneson to create Dungeons & Dragons.

And then would create Advanced Dungeons and Dragons to cut him out of the action. The problem with digging through history is that you come up with a lot of dirt.


I remember the inch thing and I would ask my DM all the time why am I converting my movement from inches (we didn't even use minis) it was some time later I got the reasoning. thanks for clearing up that stuff for me.

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Yep. The great Gygax, along with most other gamers of the time, were huge fans of wargaming, and played on large sand tables. Things like troop movement and weapon spreads were measured in inches on the sand table. In fact, this is where the term "sandbox" comes from (as in, the opposite of a railroad type of campaign). D&D grew out of this and is why early editions of the game maintained measurement in inches.

If you really want to learn more about the early history of D&D and the people, games, books, and environment that created D&D, I highly recommend two books:

Playing at the World by Jon Peterson and Empire of Imagination: Gary Gygax and the Birth of Dungeons & Dragons by Michael Witwer

Here is an AWESOME video shot by Jon Peterson that literally takes you to the town of Lake Geneva where Gygax lived, created the game, and where TSR was located. You get to see the location of the first GenCon and it even takes you into the Gygax home and down into Gygax's basment where they have a recreation of Gygax's sand table. Truly an amazing video!

Gaming at the Gygax House: A Visit to the Basement Where D&D Began

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