Diefic Obedience Kalistria (PFS)


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion

Scarab Sages

How common are prostitutes in Golarion? How much do they cost? Do temples of Kalistria have... Rooms??? That can be used to fulfill my daily obedience?


1. Depends on legality, most large towns have at least a brothel or two. Also depends on what scenario you're playing and if you're close to civilization.

2. Ultimate Equipment has "companions" listed as 5 CP to 10 GP. You get what you pay for, although this is up to the GM and any appropriate PFS authority.

3. Depends on if the temple is a dedicated brothel, but more often than not yes. The "companions" there would likely be on the more expensive side if it's a big temple.

4. Yep.

In all actuality though, you'll more than likely have to go with the backup way of fulfilling Calistria's obedience.

Scarab Sages

Ashram wrote:

1. Depends on legality, most large towns have at least a brothel or two. Also depends on what scenario you're playing and if you're close to civilization.

2. Ultimate Equipment has "companions" listed as 5 CP to 10 GP. You get what you pay for, although this is up to the GM and any appropriate PFS authority.

3. Depends on if the temple is a dedicated brothel, but more often than not yes. The "companions" there would likely be on the more expensive side if it's a big temple.

4. Yep.

In all actuality though, you'll more than likely have to go with the backup way of fulfilling Calistria's obedience.

I would be JUST FINE using ONLY the backup of covering myself in silk as opposed to having to spend time in the scenario actively looking for prostitutes. I mean, yea, it's part of the game, but other people aren't there to hear about my character going to see prostitutes every day.

Silver Crusade

1 person marked this as a favorite.
Pathfinder Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Siegebeast2142 wrote:
Ashram wrote:

1. Depends on legality, most large towns have at least a brothel or two. Also depends on what scenario you're playing and if you're close to civilization.

2. Ultimate Equipment has "companions" listed as 5 CP to 10 GP. You get what you pay for, although this is up to the GM and any appropriate PFS authority.

3. Depends on if the temple is a dedicated brothel, but more often than not yes. The "companions" there would likely be on the more expensive side if it's a big temple.

4. Yep.

In all actuality though, you'll more than likely have to go with the backup way of fulfilling Calistria's obedience.

I would be JUST FINE using ONLY the backup of covering myself in silk as opposed to having to spend time in the scenario actively looking for prostitutes. I mean, yea, it's part of the game, but other people aren't there to hear about my character going to see prostitutes every day.

"Engage in sexual activity with another individual in exchange for money, information, or another valuable resource"

You could sleep with the person who gave you the mission?

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Actually the "If no suitable partner is available" part takes care of your problem, if the person running doesn't say there's anyone around interested in sleeping with you then there's not.


You can give 5 gp to another party member to have sex with them and that fulfills the obedience. And tomorrow they can pay you the 5 gp. No amount of money was specified, nor was a direction of monetary flow.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I don't believe you can give gold to your allies in PFS.


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Maps, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

In PFS, you can just resort to the alternate form of the obedience since there are reasons that the primary form might be inappropriate.


I think the OP has fundementally misread the Obedience.

You are not hiring a prostitute, you are acting as a prostitute.
You are looking for someone to pay YOU in information, cash or whatever.


Daw wrote:

I think the OP has fundementally misread the Obedience.

You are not hiring a prostitute, you are acting as a prostitute.
You are looking for someone to pay YOU in information, cash or whatever.

I'm pretty sure it can be read either way. It makes sense that Calistria would be just as pleased with you using prostitues as being a prostitute.

Scarab Sages

Melkiador wrote:
Daw wrote:

I think the OP has fundementally misread the Obedience.

You are not hiring a prostitute, you are acting as a prostitute.
You are looking for someone to pay YOU in information, cash or whatever.

I'm pretty sure it can be read either way. It makes sense that Calistria would be just as pleased with you using prostitues as being a prostitute.

That would be even WORSE. Now, not only am I having to drag others at the table through my sexual exploits, I'm having to spend EVEN MORE table time trying to make those exploits happen.


1 person marked this as a favorite.

Choose a different deity then? >.>


To me it was a bit weird that it had to be compensated sex. So the goddess of lust and passion is not cool with sex done for the purpose of passion or purely following your lusts and prefers it as a transaction? I am not convinced this stipulation makes sense.


The Shaman wrote:
To me it was a bit weird that it had to be compensated sex. So the goddess of lust and passion is not cool with sex done for the purpose of passion or purely following your lusts and prefers it as a transaction? I am not convinced this stipulation makes sense.

Among the elves she's not even that much about prostitution. That's something that seems to have been tacked on by human temples.

Shadow Lodge

She's the patron deity of the elves
So yeah prostitues are fine


But among elves, the prostitution is a very small part of her worship. Most elven temples don't even have prostitutes. It just seems odd that her obedience focuses on a part of her religion that not all of her temples even care about. You may notice that prostitution isn't even in her portfolio. And there are deities who do have it in their portfolio.

Scarab Sages

1 person marked this as a favorite.
The Shaman wrote:
To me it was a bit weird that it had to be compensated sex. So the goddess of lust and passion is not cool with sex done for the purpose of passion or purely following your lusts and prefers it as a transaction? I am not convinced this stipulation makes sense.

There isn't a different diety that this character *wants* to worship. I'm not opposed to having sexual exploits in game personally... But I *am* opposed to having to even roleplay finding these scenarios when people at the table - and in the store / watching / listening in general - might be put off by it.


1 person marked this as a favorite.
The Shaman wrote:
To me it was a bit weird that it had to be compensated sex. So the goddess of lust and passion is not cool with sex done for the purpose of passion or purely following your lusts and prefers it as a transaction? I am not convinced this stipulation makes sense.

It has to be just as unnecessarily complicated as all the other obediences too.

Scarab Sages

Sorry misquoted. the person I was supposed to quote in this conversation (though I'm sure those that care figured it out)

Ashram wrote:
Choose a different deity then? >.>


3 people marked this as a favorite.

The squimish Calistria-worshipper is easily the funniest concept for a character ever. Holy moly.

Listen, just stick to the silk. You'll be fine. Your PFS DM is probably not gonna enforce you going to look for someone to have sex with. If anything, just go visit your local temple to Calistra (which usually doubles as a brothel in some places) to keep the obediance. They'll help you out.

And you'll probably get a 'fade to black'. No worries.


1 person marked this as a favorite.
Rysky wrote:

"Engage in sexual activity with another individual in exchange for money, information, or another valuable resource"

You could sleep with the person who gave you the mission?

For Zarta, it may be business as usual.

Imagine the embarassment on Trade Prince Aaqir's face when his "anniversary present" shows up for the mission.

I bet you Drendle Drang's a cuddler.

Liberty's Edge

1 person marked this as a favorite.

The first part has to be willing, so if you aren't willing, you can always just do the second part. Always.

It'd be entirely possible to play a celibate Calistrian entirely obsessed with revenge and fulfill that Obedience every day. Easily. So do that.


Ashram wrote:
Choose a different deity then? >.>

Might not be an option in this instance. Each deity has different boons for their obedience. IIRC Calistria is amazing for bards in the later levels as she allows you to use performance to turn a spell...or negate it. I forget the specifics on that.


1 person marked this as a favorite.
Melkiador wrote:
But among elves, the prostitution is a very small part of her worship. Most elven temples don't even have prostitutes. It just seems odd that her obedience focuses on a part of her religion that not all of her temples even care about. You may notice that prostitution isn't even in her portfolio. And there are deities who do have it in their portfolio.

As a Ragathiel worshipper, it could be much worse.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Siegebeast2142 wrote:
I'm not opposed to having sexual exploits in game personally... But I *am* opposed to having to even roleplay finding these scenarios when people at the table - and in the store / watching / listening in general - might be put off by it.

Nothing says you have to describe what takes place to the other players or even the GM.

You: 'Bob the Calistrian goes to a brothel after dinner to fulfill his Calistrian deific obedience.'

GM: 'OK. Deduct 5 gp from your sheet.'


Ashram wrote:
3. Depends on if the temple is a dedicated brothel, but more often than not yes. The "companions" there would likely be on the more expensive side if it's a big temple.

A bit more discussion:

3. If there are no rooms, then it is likely a referral service, and then you go back to the local inn.

Heck, the 'temple' might just BE the local inn. Clerics of Cayden Cailean often own bars and just make a small shrine in the back- I am sure low level clerics of Calistria in small, no horse towns are not too different. And inn keepers are useful for the spying aspect of the god too, since they are able to keep an eye out for new arrivals in town.

But in practical terms... just get the silk. Less likely to cause problems in a group. Also, you have less need to divert from the scenario... which I am sure could be a problem in PFS.


Ashram wrote:
1. Depends on legality (...)

Is prostitution illegal anywhere in Golarion?

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Derklord wrote:
Ashram wrote:
1. Depends on legality (...)
Is prostitution illegal anywhere in Golarion?

Druma?

Scarab Sages

lemeres wrote:
Ashram wrote:
3. Depends on if the temple is a dedicated brothel, but more often than not yes. The "companions" there would likely be on the more expensive side if it's a big temple.

A bit more discussion:

3. If there are no rooms, then it is likely a referral service, and then you go back to the local inn.

Heck, the 'temple' might just BE the local inn. Clerics of Cayden Cailean often own bars and just make a small shrine in the back- I am sure low level clerics of Calistria in small, no horse towns are not too different. And inn keepers are useful for the spying aspect of the god too, since they are able to keep an eye out for new arrivals in town.

But in practical terms... just get the silk. Less likely to cause problems in a group. Also, you have less need to divert from the scenario... which I am sure could be a problem in PFS.

Even that, for some people, is off putting.

Grand Lodge

Rysky wrote:
You could sleep with the person who gave you the mission?

For some of them, that's a bit more difficult than one might think!

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Blake's Tiger wrote:
Siegebeast2142 wrote:
I'm not opposed to having sexual exploits in game personally... But I *am* opposed to having to even roleplay finding these scenarios when people at the table - and in the store / watching / listening in general - might be put off by it.

Nothing says you have to describe what takes place to the other players or even the GM.

You: 'Bob the Calistrian goes to a brothel after dinner to fulfill his Calistrian deific obedience.'

GM: 'OK. Deduct 5 gp from your sheet.'

Don't even have to do that.

Player: I roll Diplomacy/Kn:Local to Gather Information, and fulfill my Calistrian Obedience. Rolled a 23.

GM: Okay, with a 23 you find out...


1 person marked this as a favorite.
Ashram wrote:
In all actuality though, you'll more than likely have to go with the backup way of fulfilling Calistria's obedience.

Without knowing the details, my mind filled in "the backup" as

Spoiler:
the five fingered variety....

A simple way would be to pair up with another Calistran and fulfill your obedience with each other.

/cevah


It's really nice silk. So...tantalizing. Yes.

I believe there is one deity that involves sexual release on their own but I entirely forget who. I think it might be Arshea. In fact, I am pretty certain it is.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber
Garbage-Tier Waifu wrote:
I believe there is one deity that involves sexual release on their own but I entirely forget who. I think it might be Arshea. In fact, I am pretty certain it is.

Very close - it's Lymnieris.

EDIT: Although, checking Arshea's, they do give you the option of "either alone or with a partner". So you're still right. ^_^


1 person marked this as a favorite.

Socothbenoth on the demonic side also allows you to roll solo.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Socothbenoth on the demonic side also allows you to roll solo.

Which you kinda will be if you show up to the table with a character worshipping him :3


Cevah wrote:
Ashram wrote:
In all actuality though, you'll more than likely have to go with the backup way of fulfilling Calistria's obedience.

Without knowing the details, my mind filled in "the backup" as

** spoiler omitted **

A simple way would be to pair up with another Calistran and fulfill your obedience with each other.

/cevah

That backup is also done while muttering about how you will totally get revenge...

...which both makes it worse, and somehow more...thematic... I suppose. You are REALLY into the idea of getting revenge. To a disturbing degree.


Revenge on who? Everyone? No one? The idea of revenge itself? It is a mystery.


2 people marked this as a favorite.
Ashram wrote:
Choose a different deity then? >.>

Preferably one whose name you can spell.

Silver Crusade

Couldnt you just use your profession check and be done with it?

Grand Lodge

2 people marked this as a favorite.
Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
Siegebeast2142 wrote:
That would be even WORSE. Now, not only am I having to drag others at the table through my sexual exploits, I'm having to spend EVEN MORE table time trying to make those exploits happen.

I'm confused as to why you need to bring it up beyond "My character performs their daily obedience".


When I've played my Calistrian Inquisitor, there's actually been another Calistrian in the party. We passed a gold coin back and forth, and said we were sharing a tent. No need to go into more than that.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / General Discussion / Diefic Obedience Kalistria (PFS) All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.