Soooo.... Villain Codex


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Will the Villain Codex have "good" villains for evil characters?


That is a good question but couldnt they be found in the regular NPC Codex?

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I've looked, but a lot of them have either too many class levels or too few class levels, and none of them are truly meant to be "good villains".


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I think only one of the "groupings" is oriented towards non-evil groups.


To have asked James Jacobs myself, he answered me this:

"There are some non-evil villains in Villain Codex, but the majority are evil, because that works best for villains in a generic sense."

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JiCi wrote:

To have asked James Jacobs myself, he answered me this:

"There are some non-evil villains in Villain Codex, but the majority are evil, because that works best for villains in a generic sense."

Indeed. Evil villains are generally excellent villains for evil campaigns as well as for good and neutral campaigns. As just one example, scheming evil PC nobles could have their hands full trying to take control from the equally corrupt (and better connected) evil political establishment.


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Mark Seifter wrote:
JiCi wrote:

To have asked James Jacobs myself, he answered me this:

"There are some non-evil villains in Villain Codex, but the majority are evil, because that works best for villains in a generic sense."

Indeed. Evil villains are generally excellent villains for evil campaigns as well as for good and neutral campaigns. As just one example, scheming evil PC nobles could have their hands full trying to take control from the equally corrupt (and better connected) evil political establishment.

Is this a subtle jab at the current presidential election in USA? If so, I love it

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Jayder22 wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
JiCi wrote:

To have asked James Jacobs myself, he answered me this:

"There are some non-evil villains in Villain Codex, but the majority are evil, because that works best for villains in a generic sense."

Indeed. Evil villains are generally excellent villains for evil campaigns as well as for good and neutral campaigns. As just one example, scheming evil PC nobles could have their hands full trying to take control from the equally corrupt (and better connected) evil political establishment.
Is this a subtle jab at the current presidential election in USA? If so, I love it

Uhhh...that was supposed to be about the Regal Court villain grouping, actually.

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Mark Seifter wrote:
the Regal Court villain grouping

Don't forget their completely deniable Slaver henchmen. *EVIL GRIN*

Go team slavers!!!

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Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
the Regal Court villain grouping

Don't forget their completely deniable Slaver henchmen. *EVIL GRIN*

Go team slavers!!!

In some ways, the slavers included the most vile characters in the book, even with cultists who wanted to end the world in there.

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
the Regal Court villain grouping

Don't forget their completely deniable Slaver henchmen. *EVIL GRIN*

Go team slavers!!!

In some ways, the slavers included the most vile characters in the book, even with cultists who wanted to end the world in there.

That's not that hard to imagine.


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*thinks back on groups of enemies for PCs*

I think, that out of all the different groups I have sent at my PCs, slavers are definitely the ones met with the most disgust and hate.

Cultists are crazy, slavers are F%&#*%& evil.

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