paizo.com Recent Posts in Emotional roleplaying and crying in gamepaizo.com Recent Posts in Emotional roleplaying and crying in game2016-09-10T19:37:29Z2016-09-10T19:37:29ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameGrondhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#432016-09-13T17:11:32Z2016-09-13T17:11:32Z<p>Forgetting all the GET OUT! advice you have gotten (which frankly I more than agree with) if you do want to continue playing with these people then consider the following. Your character is an actual person in an actual fantasy world somewhere that has real feelings, emotions and most importantly a working brain.</p>
<p>No one would stay with a group of people that actively tried to kill them or agreed with the almost murder attempt on that person's life. So using common sense logic your character would leave the group at a minimum and most likely either kill the group on the way out or at least kill the rogue.</p>
<p>Your group needs to have a session about how to role play. This situation you are describing is toxic and could easily lead to "can't you take a joke?" to some RL hard feelings or fights. </p>
<p>Games are meant to be fun. Roleplay games generally have a group of characters that enjoy each other and want to either save the world or do something heroic. This kind of behavior of murderhobo is just not what Pathfinder or any decent game is about.</p>Forgetting all the GET OUT! advice you have gotten (which frankly I more than agree with) if you do want to continue playing with these people then consider the following. Your character is an actual person in an actual fantasy world somewhere that has real feelings, emotions and most importantly a working brain.
No one would stay with a group of people that actively tried to kill them or agreed with the almost murder attempt on that person's life. So using common sense logic your character...Grond2016-09-13T17:11:32ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameWallsinghamhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#422016-09-13T17:19:03Z2016-09-13T14:49:39Z<p>Heck, after reading all the posts, Get Out is the clear choice. I wouldn't even tell them I was leaving just stop showing up. Find a better group and never look back!</p>
<p>In the end, you should be happier and have more fun than always worrying if the asshat rogue is gonna shank you when he feels it will save his hide.</p>
<p>I hope things work out for you which ever route you go. </p>
<p>~ W ~</p>Heck, after reading all the posts, Get Out is the clear choice. I wouldn't even tell them I was leaving just stop showing up. Find a better group and never look back!
In the end, you should be happier and have more fun than always worrying if the asshat rogue is gonna shank you when he feels it will save his hide.
I hope things work out for you which ever route you go.
~ W ~Wallsingham2016-09-13T14:49:39ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameDeaths Adorable Apprenticehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#412016-09-13T17:19:09Z2016-09-13T10:12:07Z<p>Craig's list is a thing and though that I actually have a very good group that I play with. </p>
<p>You are in a horrible group and should tell them that they have pushed your character to the point of a psychotic break and they seem to have striped the fun of the game. Leave that group and never look back.</p>Craig's list is a thing and though that I actually have a very good group that I play with.
You are in a horrible group and should tell them that they have pushed your character to the point of a psychotic break and they seem to have striped the fun of the game. Leave that group and never look back.Deaths Adorable Apprentice2016-09-13T10:12:07ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameBLloyd607502https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#402016-09-13T09:43:41Z2016-09-13T09:43:41Z<p>I've had a character cry in a game.</p>
<p>Bit of a side mission involving our teams utility white necromancer (NG Pharasman cleric), Pharasman Inquisitor and monk that puts down the dead buddy copping it in Abalsom to stop a 10 year curse before it can claim any more victims and to get the soul of a hanged man on their side (Hangman's Noose), the monk ends up trapped in the Court house.
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The necromancer goes missing. Long story short the monk takes names and punches throats revealing the seedy deeds long forgotten.
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The necromancer however came across an even bigger crime. Turns out since the Court house disappeared he decided to do a spell to check the biggest sources of undead in the area.
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And it lead him to a Koblak lair.</p>
<p>When the Monk tracked him down he found him sitting on the corpse of a Koblak, crying his eyes out, surrounded by attic whisperers, dozens of them who were all nuzzled up to him and listening to a hoarsely whispered bed time story.
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When not putting down the dead the character ran an orphanage and part of his theme was basically that he could speak to the dead as they were when they were alive (Feat that let him use diplomacy on Undead) the GM utterly pushed his buttons.
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When the Inquisitor gently insisted they'd be better off sent on their way to the Boneyard, Necromancer out and out refused (And shockingly got the Inquisitor to back down) and has been working on some serious efforts to redeem them and give them a semi-normal life, delving into some very ominous grey areas to do so. He hasn't lost his Grace from Pharasma yet but half the party thinks its only a matter of time.</p>
<p>He's basically aiming for the good ending of Bioshock, except with the undead, if things go well. If not, well.
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It won't go well for anyone.</p>I've had a character cry in a game.
Bit of a side mission involving our teams utility white necromancer (NG Pharasman cleric), Pharasman Inquisitor and monk that puts down the dead buddy copping it in Abalsom to stop a 10 year curse before it can claim any more victims and to get the soul of a hanged man on their side (Hangman's Noose), the monk ends up trapped in the Court house.
The necromancer goes missing. Long story short the monk takes names and punches throats revealing the seedy...BLloyd6075022016-09-13T09:43:41ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gamejakololhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#392016-09-13T09:36:16Z2016-09-13T09:36:16Z<p>I do mean this as a serious question.
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Why do you continue to play with these people???
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You seem to be role-playing for different reasons than the rest of your group.
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Do you think having your character cry in front of them would penetrate their seemingly think skins(skulls),
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I question what reaction you would expect by doing this, are you hoping to change their alignments?
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It could certainly backfire on you and turn the game into a living hell for your character.
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I have done this twice in pathfinder once it worked and once it made the other players so uncomfortable that that game quickly came to an end.</p>I do mean this as a serious question.
Why do you continue to play with these people???
You seem to be role-playing for different reasons than the rest of your group.
Do you think having your character cry in front of them would penetrate their seemingly think skins(skulls),
I question what reaction you would expect by doing this, are you hoping to change their alignments?
It could certainly backfire on you and turn the game into a living hell for your character.
I have done this twice in...jakolol2016-09-13T09:36:16ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameJ4RH34Dhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#382016-09-13T18:47:26Z2016-09-13T08:50:44Z<p>Lorila , do you know color spray? Do you know what your dc and their saves are? Figure out their chance to fail, and if it is low enough, next time a fight happens, stand back, hit as many of the party as you can.
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The fun thing is you don't even need to tell them what spell you cast unless they succeed at the spell craft check. So if someone falls over but most are still standing, cast it again. Once half the party is out cold, leave. Let the encounter slaughter those that stand and then those on the floor.</p>
<p>This is the most extreme solution to your problem. The best bet is always talk OOC. That should be your first option.</p>
<p>Even at lvl 4 you can arrange the death of everyone else in the party.</p>
<p>Remember. Wizards are smart. They win by having a plan that targets weak spots. In this case that is taking them by surprise, hitting as many as you can with their weakest saves, which is probably Will.</p>
<p>People also go to sleep sometimes. You don't need to kill them yourself even. When it comes to your turn to take watch, go for a walk, find the evil guy and tell him your party is all asleep, and you will tell them where if he takes you on as a 2nd in command or some such.
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Watch as your party is woken up by ogres tearing their limbs off. Then saunter in, pissed on the corpses and take all the loot to share with your new friend and boss.</p>
<p>I have seen more cohesion in an evil campaign. Any campaign will only work if the characters have a reason to be working together.</p>
<p>My 2 cents. Also I am going to send you a personal message shortly</p>Lorila , do you know color spray? Do you know what your dc and their saves are? Figure out their chance to fail, and if it is low enough, next time a fight happens, stand back, hit as many of the party as you can.
The fun thing is you don't even need to tell them what spell you cast unless they succeed at the spell craft check. So if someone falls over but most are still standing, cast it again. Once half the party is out cold, leave. Let the encounter slaughter those that stand and then...J4RH34D2016-09-13T08:50:44ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameRichard Federlehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#372016-09-13T08:43:14Z2016-09-13T08:43:14Z<p>Yeah, I see this issue among people who are "neutral" aligned. Best bet: Walk away. Find another group. Play online.</p>
<p>Neutral means (IMO) that even though you're looking out for number one, you recognize that working as a TEAM represents the best bet for survival. Only evil characters act in the manner you describe.</p>Yeah, I see this issue among people who are "neutral" aligned. Best bet: Walk away. Find another group. Play online.
Neutral means (IMO) that even though you're looking out for number one, you recognize that working as a TEAM represents the best bet for survival. Only evil characters act in the manner you describe.Richard Federle2016-09-13T08:43:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameLorila Soritahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#362016-09-13T14:44:57Z2016-09-13T08:13:10Z<p>We are all roughly the same level. The rogue is highest level at level 5, and I am level 4. So I can't blow up everyone yet. Pretty sure I could still kill the rogue though, if he isn't expecting it. Though I decided it is probably better to avoid that.</p>
<p>Instead I am going to suggest we outright ban all player vs player combat, or just go a straight evil campaign where the purpose is to kill people. If they don't want to do either of those things, then I will probably just quit the group. If they agree to go along with that, that should end the worst of the problems, then can work on the other problems overs time.</p>We are all roughly the same level. The rogue is highest level at level 5, and I am level 4. So I can't blow up everyone yet. Pretty sure I could still kill the rogue though, if he isn't expecting it. Though I decided it is probably better to avoid that.
Instead I am going to suggest we outright ban all player vs player combat, or just go a straight evil campaign where the purpose is to kill people. If they don't want to do either of those things, then I will probably just quit the group. If...Lorila Sorita2016-09-13T08:13:10ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameSaldivenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#352016-09-12T17:58:58Z2016-09-12T17:58:58Z<p>I suggest that your character take this experience as the motivation for becoming the (eventual) nasty, dominant leader of the party.</p>
<p>Do whatever it takes to survive and advance in levels. Make sure you obtain all the strongest spells at possible and use them to their most abusive (but rules legal) extent.</p>
<p>Somewhere between 10-15th level, show your cards when you completely take over the party, demonstrating the power you now have that FAR outsrips anything the rest of the group can accomplish. Make sure to mock the rest of them as they are forced to capitulate to your will, reminding them of all the times they called you "weak" as you dominate their minds, forcing them to do all sorts of humiliating and disgusting things....</p>I suggest that your character take this experience as the motivation for becoming the (eventual) nasty, dominant leader of the party.
Do whatever it takes to survive and advance in levels. Make sure you obtain all the strongest spells at possible and use them to their most abusive (but rules legal) extent.
Somewhere between 10-15th level, show your cards when you completely take over the party, demonstrating the power you now have that FAR outsrips anything the rest of the group can...Saldiven2016-09-12T17:58:58ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameMy Selfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#342016-09-12T17:25:22Z2016-09-12T17:25:22Z<p>When you said "low level wizard", are you implying that your teammates are higher-leveled? Or are you all low level? What level?</p>
<p>Emotionally, these people are awful for you. First, ask the DM and/or players if they could stop or ease up on the harassment. If you can't make it clear that you didn't come to play verbal punching bag, leave them.</p>When you said "low level wizard", are you implying that your teammates are higher-leveled? Or are you all low level? What level?
Emotionally, these people are awful for you. First, ask the DM and/or players if they could stop or ease up on the harassment. If you can't make it clear that you didn't come to play verbal punching bag, leave them.My Self2016-09-12T17:25:22ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameSheepishEidolonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#332016-09-12T16:18:15Z2016-09-12T16:18:15Z<p>Is it still the same group as in July? Because if nothing improved since then, this just supports the 'RUN' advice. Stop analyzing, stop looking for options, stop hesitating, just do yourself a favor and leave them. You will find a better group sooner or later.</p>Is it still the same group as in July? Because if nothing improved since then, this just supports the 'RUN' advice. Stop analyzing, stop looking for options, stop hesitating, just do yourself a favor and leave them. You will find a better group sooner or later.SheepishEidolon2016-09-12T16:18:15ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameFruian Thistlefoot (alias of Frank Kyle)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#322016-09-12T16:11:10Z2016-09-12T16:11:10Z<p>I would kill the rogue in his sleep or poison his food/water. The rogue would die, at the least. One way or another I'd put him in the grave for his betrayal. Hell, I would probably just kill the entire party since they hate your wizard so much they want him to die. Then have your Wizard go join the Evil one with the heads of the others. </p>
<p>Then everyone rolls new characters. Now you will get the chance to see if all their characters are just them on paper, or if they can actually role play.</p>I would kill the rogue in his sleep or poison his food/water. The rogue would die, at the least. One way or another I'd put him in the grave for his betrayal. Hell, I would probably just kill the entire party since they hate your wizard so much they want him to die. Then have your Wizard go join the Evil one with the heads of the others.
Then everyone rolls new characters. Now you will get the chance to see if all their characters are just them on paper, or if they can actually role play.Fruian Thistlefoot (alias of Frank Kyle)2016-09-12T16:11:10ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in game'Sanihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#312016-09-12T15:18:43Z2016-09-12T15:18:43Z<p>I do not think having your character break down in front of the other characters would do anything but make them laugh and mock the wizard more. They've already expresely stated that they don't care about the wizard, they they are ok with them dying, they they are ok with killing them. They would not care if the wizard was upset, in fact it would only amuse them</p>
<p>If you are dead set on sticking with this party (I wouldn't but if you say they're your friends...) I would suggest getting a diary. Every time they do something mean, every time your character is insulted, tell them that the wizard writes in his diary. Hurt the wizard, he/she pulls out the diary. Mock the wizard? Writing in the diary. Make fun of the wizard for having a diary? Describe the wizard writing it all in the diary.</p>
<p>Eventually they will steal the diary to read it aloud in mockery.</p>
<p>At which time they will learn the only thing written in the diary is page after page of <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/spells/explosiveRunes.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Explosive Runes</a></p>I do not think having your character break down in front of the other characters would do anything but make them laugh and mock the wizard more. They've already expresely stated that they don't care about the wizard, they they are ok with them dying, they they are ok with killing them. They would not care if the wizard was upset, in fact it would only amuse them
If you are dead set on sticking with this party (I wouldn't but if you say they're your friends...) I would suggest getting a...'Sani2016-09-12T15:18:43ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameLandSwordBear (alias of Oceanshieldwolf)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#302016-09-18T18:38:47Z2016-09-12T14:08:08Z<p>I'm happy I read this thread. I will be using oocly and ICly from now on. Some people are entirely oocly AND icly. In game AND IRL. ;P</p>I'm happy I read this thread. I will be using oocly and ICly from now on. Some people are entirely oocly AND icly. In game AND IRL. ;PLandSwordBear (alias of Oceanshieldwolf)2016-09-12T14:08:08ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameThe Steel Refrainhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#292016-09-12T14:01:14Z2016-09-12T14:01:14Z<p>From OP's description, this sounds like a pretty toxic situation, honestly. The other group members sound like jerks, and I jhave a hard time believing that their jerkish behaviour is only manifested in in-character (IC) behaviour, without any bearing on what they are like out-of-character (OOC) </p>
<p>Even if I accept the notion that what is happening is IC-only, this might explain remaining friendly with the other gamers OOC, but it doesnt really explain why you would want to continue playing a game with them that doesn't align at all with what you want from it.</p>
<p>I agree with other posters that getting emtoional IC isn't likely to influence either the players or their murderhobo characters. Instead, my view is that you either need to:</p>
<p>(1) have an OOC chat about how the game is going and what your expectations are from it, and see if you can bring people onside to change the way you are approaching the game to create a more cooperative experience (and maybe develop some rules about PvP violence, etc, so those issues do not arise again); or</p>
<p>(2) accept that your group isn't looking for the same type of game you are, and either leave the game, or embrace it and join in the backbiting, murderhobo-y mayhem.</p>
<p>I'd probably try to have the direct chat OOC, and then leave the game if things didn't change as a result. Doesn't mean you can't remain friends with these folks, but I agree with the sentiment that no gaming is better than bad gaming.</p>From OP's description, this sounds like a pretty toxic situation, honestly. The other group members sound like jerks, and I jhave a hard time believing that their jerkish behaviour is only manifested in in-character (IC) behaviour, without any bearing on what they are like out-of-character (OOC)
Even if I accept the notion that what is happening is IC-only, this might explain remaining friendly with the other gamers OOC, but it doesnt really explain why you would want to continue playing a...The Steel Refrain2016-09-12T14:01:14ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameJader7777https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#282016-09-13T18:44:48Z2016-09-12T10:11:13Z<p>Pathfinders fault is that it's upfront appeal is system mastery and tactical maneuvers. It's difficult to get emotionally invested in something you treat as a pragmatic problem that needs to be solved.</p>
<p>There's also a degree of maturity and vulnerability that most man children don't want to expose in public. Being an indifferent murder hobo is a good protective front to brush away any prickles behind they eye.</p>
<p>I do remember playing a game and one guy had to leave the table because he couldn't deal with the family fued tension that might of hit to close to home in his personal life.</p>
<p>Gotta find the right group for that particular mood you're going for OP.</p>Pathfinders fault is that it's upfront appeal is system mastery and tactical maneuvers. It's difficult to get emotionally invested in something you treat as a pragmatic problem that needs to be solved.
There's also a degree of maturity and vulnerability that most man children don't want to expose in public. Being an indifferent murder hobo is a good protective front to brush away any prickles behind they eye.
I do remember playing a game and one guy had to leave the table because he...Jader77772016-09-12T10:11:13ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameD@rK-SePHiRoTH-https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#272016-09-11T21:26:40Z2016-09-11T21:26:40Z<p>Just leave. Leaving is best. If you have to stay, however, play by their rules.</p>
<p>In this group, the strongest rules. Play an optimized character and force everyone into respecting you out of raw power.</p>Just leave. Leaving is best. If you have to stay, however, play by their rules.
In this group, the strongest rules. Play an optimized character and force everyone into respecting you out of raw power.D@rK-SePHiRoTH-2016-09-11T21:26:40ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gamezainalehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#262016-09-11T20:43:41Z2016-09-11T20:43:41Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tyinyk wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I once had a character whose twin brother was murdered in front of her in the session the two were introduced, and the rest of the party showed no sympathy, some even insulting her frequently. Having your character cry isn't going to change their attitudes, at least from my experience. </p>
<p>What you should do is murder the rogue who backstabbed you in full view of everyone, as brutally as possible, and tell the rest of the party that you are not weak, and you are not to be trifled with.</p>
<p>This party doesn't sound it it will be swayed by anything other than a show of force, and the rogue is definitely full-on Evil, even if the rest of the party isn't. If you get the jump on the rogue with your strongest spell(s), it should be easy-peasy for you to kill him, and then you're square. </blockquote><p>you got fireball yet? if so cast fire resist spells on yourself so you wont die then walk up behind him cover his mouth and whisper the fireball spell lovingly into his ear and set the spell off inside his mouth. roast his insides before causing him to explode. then as everyone is staring in horror at you state that you shared the secrets of your powers with him and that his mind could not comprehend the power. then threaten the cookies out of that evil party or just straight up walk your character out of there in middle of battle since they can handle it
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.</p>Tyinyk wrote:I once had a character whose twin brother was murdered in front of her in the session the two were introduced, and the rest of the party showed no sympathy, some even insulting her frequently. Having your character cry isn't going to change their attitudes, at least from my experience.
What you should do is murder the rogue who backstabbed you in full view of everyone, as brutally as possible, and tell the rest of the party that you are not weak, and you are not to be trifled...zainale2016-09-11T20:43:41ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameMerakihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#252016-09-11T19:37:05Z2016-09-11T19:37:05Z<p>I really would suggest trying to find another group. It sounds like they're just not interested in the kind of game experience you want to have, and are more interested in being murderhobos. I don't see any way you can "get back" at them that won't end in PvP.</p>
<p>If you really want to resolve it, you might want to try an OOC chat with them about how you're feeling about the game, but I don't know if that will help much. Honestly, their behavior sounds kind of jerky to me. Games are supposed to be fun for the whole party.</p>
<p>I have plenty of people I'm good friends with but don't play Pathfinder with because our playstyles just don't match. At this point, I think leaving is probably your best option.</p>I really would suggest trying to find another group. It sounds like they're just not interested in the kind of game experience you want to have, and are more interested in being murderhobos. I don't see any way you can "get back" at them that won't end in PvP.
If you really want to resolve it, you might want to try an OOC chat with them about how you're feeling about the game, but I don't know if that will help much. Honestly, their behavior sounds kind of jerky to me. Games are supposed to...Meraki2016-09-11T19:37:05ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameDawhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#242016-09-11T18:36:03Z2016-09-11T18:36:03Z<p>Lorila,</p>
<p>Breaking up the group is hardly the worst thing you could do.
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Keeping a bad group together is the worst thing you can do.
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Ditch the rogue, if the player pitches a fit, ditch the player.
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If you get no support, ditch the game.</p>
<p>If you don't do something you WILL end up losing friends in RL.
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This may not be an entirely bad thing for you.</p>Lorila,
Breaking up the group is hardly the worst thing you could do.
Keeping a bad group together is the worst thing you can do.
Ditch the rogue, if the player pitches a fit, ditch the player.
If you get no support, ditch the game.
If you don't do something you WILL end up losing friends in RL.
This may not be an entirely bad thing for you.Daw2016-09-11T18:36:03ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameShroudedInLighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#232016-09-11T18:34:38Z2016-09-11T18:34:38Z<p>If this was all planned and ok then I'd tell you to prepare some invisibility, some fireballs, and murder them. However, I Gotta say leaving is the healthiest thing to do. I BAN PvP in my games for this specific reason.</p>
<p>Instead of just leaving, tell them you aren't having fun, and see if you can get them to stop being dicks to you. If they don't, then leave. </p>
<p>Remember, If you fail to communicate the problem there is never a chance to find a solution. They think its all ok, it isn't. Tell them, and if they don't change you need to walk.</p>If this was all planned and ok then I'd tell you to prepare some invisibility, some fireballs, and murder them. However, I Gotta say leaving is the healthiest thing to do. I BAN PvP in my games for this specific reason.
Instead of just leaving, tell them you aren't having fun, and see if you can get them to stop being dicks to you. If they don't, then leave.
Remember, If you fail to communicate the problem there is never a chance to find a solution. They think its all ok, it isn't. Tell...ShroudedInLight2016-09-11T18:34:38ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameMageHunterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#222016-09-11T18:14:04Z2016-09-11T18:14:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">peterrco wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Give as good as you get.</p>
<p>They don't want to be grateful when you save someone's life. Fine. If they don't value the service, don't do the service. And rub salt in by being first to call dibs on the dead Bozo's equipment.</p>
<p>They want to use people as meat shields. You are far better at that game then they are. Once they've pinned down several monsters in melee. Let loose an area effect spell. Thank them for the way that that they created the opportunity afterwards. And make sure you are first to call dibs on a dead PC's equipment.</p>
<p>As you get to higher levels, your ability to screw them over more than they can screw you over should teach them to play nice.</p>
<p>Don't get mad, don't get whiney, get even. And if they complain, suggest a nice friendly one off session of Paranoia to let tempers cool down. </blockquote><p>You could make this work. You used to be rather passive but now you are completely paranoid and have reached your breaking point. Hell, I'd give you the paranoid insanity from the gamemastry guide.peterrco wrote:Give as good as you get.
They don't want to be grateful when you save someone's life. Fine. If they don't value the service, don't do the service. And rub salt in by being first to call dibs on the dead Bozo's equipment.
They want to use people as meat shields. You are far better at that game then they are. Once they've pinned down several monsters in melee. Let loose an area effect spell. Thank them for the way that that they created the opportunity afterwards. And make sure...MageHunter2016-09-11T18:14:04ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gamepeterrcohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#212016-09-11T17:37:42Z2016-09-11T17:37:42Z<p>Give as good as you get.</p>
<p>They don't want to be grateful when you save someone's life. Fine. If they don't value the service, don't do the service. And rub salt in by being first to call dibs on the dead Bozo's equipment.</p>
<p>They want to use people as meat shields. You are far better at that game then they are. Once they've pinned down several monsters in melee. Let loose an area effect spell. Thank them for the way that that they created the opportunity afterwards. And make sure you are first to call dibs on a dead PC's equipment.</p>
<p>As you get to higher levels, your ability to screw them over more than they can screw you over should teach them to play nice.</p>
<p>Don't get mad, don't get whiney, get even. And if they complain, suggest a nice friendly one off session of Paranoia to let tempers cool down.</p>Give as good as you get.
They don't want to be grateful when you save someone's life. Fine. If they don't value the service, don't do the service. And rub salt in by being first to call dibs on the dead Bozo's equipment.
They want to use people as meat shields. You are far better at that game then they are. Once they've pinned down several monsters in melee. Let loose an area effect spell. Thank them for the way that that they created the opportunity afterwards. And make sure you are first...peterrco2016-09-11T17:37:42ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameRanishehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#202016-09-11T00:34:40Z2016-09-11T00:34:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lorila Sorita wrote:</div><blockquote>just disbanding a party is kind of like the worst possible thing you can do in game.</blockquote><p>No, playing in a game that you don't enjoy is the worst possible thing you can do in a game.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lorila Sorita wrote:</div><blockquote> I could leave right now, and the party would split three ways, but that doesn't actually solve anything.</blockquote><p>Yes it does. If the whole party disbands you can point out to the party: "Look, we created a group of characters who didn't want to work as part of a team for a team game. If you guys want to try this again, we need to create characters that are reliable, trustworthy & have each others' backs. But you've seen how the selfish game plays."Lorila Sorita wrote:just disbanding a party is kind of like the worst possible thing you can do in game.
No, playing in a game that you don't enjoy is the worst possible thing you can do in a game. Lorila Sorita wrote:I could leave right now, and the party would split three ways, but that doesn't actually solve anything.
Yes it does. If the whole party disbands you can point out to the party: "Look, we created a group of characters who didn't want to work as part of a team for a team game....Ranishe2016-09-11T00:34:40ZRe: Forums: Advice: Emotional roleplaying and crying in gameLorila Soritahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tw8x?Emotional-roleplaying-and-crying-in-game#192016-09-10T23:51:30Z2016-09-10T23:51:30Z<p>I am having second thoughts, though I wouldn't go so far as attacking them like some suggested. Maybe we really need to have a serious ooc conversation. I am not overly hopeful, since these type of conversations have not gone overly well in the past.</p>
<p>ICly my character might walk away from the group, but just disbanding a party is kind of like the worst possible thing you can do in game. One of the people in the group actually said they wanted to kick out another character, and then when he didn't want to leave, that character threaten to walk away. I could leave right now, and the party would split three ways, but that doesn't actually solve anything. Since I guess we would all just make new characters, and join the remaining people in the party and start again.</p>
<p>I think at the moment, the party is waiting for one of the two to die, to solve that problem. I thought they were going to have a duel to the death for a moment, but they didn't.</p>
<p>Our party is so bad at times. I know everyone always says I should quit any time I mention the stuff going on in the party, though I got a lot of free time and I am friends with them oocly, so I don't mind hanging out with them. Which is why I give them a lot more leeway that I probably should.</p>I am having second thoughts, though I wouldn't go so far as attacking them like some suggested. Maybe we really need to have a serious ooc conversation. I am not overly hopeful, since these type of conversations have not gone overly well in the past.
ICly my character might walk away from the group, but just disbanding a party is kind of like the worst possible thing you can do in game. One of the people in the group actually said they wanted to kick out another character, and then when he...Lorila Sorita2016-09-10T23:51:30Z