Removal of the Sidheron Rerolls?


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Sovereign Court 4/5

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I waited a bit as things got settled in after GenCon and the feedback on the guide as this isn't directly on the guide, but you used to be able to use the metal sidheron made by the same company that makes the pathfinder pins as a reroll in the past - but when it went over to the website it has not appeared there.

Was this purposely removed or was it overlooked?

If it was purposely removed is there a reason why?

Grand Lodge 4/5

It's not listed in the Season 7 Guide. On the product page, people have asked twice about rerolls without a PFS team answer. Do you have a source for its qualifying for rerolls before?

5/5 Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East aka Pirate Rob

There was an initial guffaw where Paizo Customer Service incorrectly stated they were good for a reroll.

It was a mistake, they are not good for a reroll and never have been.

Sovereign Court 4/5

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If we are attempting things like the t-shirts and the rest to gather interest or market the group. This is made by a company with ties to paizo where we already have benefits from their products. I don't see why we couldn't add this back into the list.

I've had more conversations and interest from people interested in what the sidheron is from outside of pathfinder and willingness to give it a try than I've had from a foilo or t-shirt.

Would it be possible to consider adding it then? Not all of us are comfortable wearing t-shirts. Most people just carry the foilo and never write in it (using it as rules reference).

Grand Lodge 4/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Great Lakes aka TwilightKnight

Incendiaeternus wrote:
I don't see why we couldn't add this back into the list

Technically speaking, the sihedron was never approved for re-rolls, though I can certainly understand your interest in having it added. The creation of the new approved re-roll reference list should reduce/eliminate the occurrences of people using unapproved items for re-rolls.

Sovereign Court 5/5 RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

I was about to say... I only wear mine when I play worshippers of Lisalla....

Grand Lodge 2/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Colorado—Northern Colorado aka treidenb

Instead of a reroll, I'd like to see it allow one bonus, but with some other penalty.

That or to force a reroll or penalty on the GM.

Sovereign Court 5/5 RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Todd Reidenbach wrote:

Instead of a reroll, I'd like to see it allow one bonus, but with some other penalty.

That or to force a reroll or penalty on the GM.

Force a GM reroll and you have to roll twice and take the lowest on your next d20? Unless your character worships Lissala or is a Thassalonian wizard archtype of course. :-)

Paizo Employee 5/5 Pathfinder Society Lead Developer

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My recollection is that the medallion was good for a re-roll, but I don't remember coming across that in past Guides and might be misremembering. I'll bring it up with the others and see if that's something for us to revisit.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area South & West aka JohnF

I'm pretty sure your recollection is at fault. I bought one of these for my wife as soon as they were released; if it had ever been declared to be a reroll-eligible item it would have removed the necessity for her to remember to have a Character Folio with her if she were going to a game night directly from work (it would not be appropriate for her to wear a reroll-eligible shirt at the office).

Nowadays, of course, you can always claim that it qualifies as a reroll item under the "Pathfinder Society cosplay" clause introduced in season 8.

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If I ever do my Seoni cosplay, my Sihedron medallion will be part of it. ^_^

Paizo Employee 5/5 Pathfinder Society Lead Developer

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Following further discussion, we've determined that the sihedron medallion does not grant a re-roll; it instead projects a 20-foot-radius aura of envy that affects all who see your gaming bling.

1/5

Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Not to put to ah, fine a point on it, but couldn't it also inspire greed, lust, anger, gluttony, pride, and sloth...?


After the grappling succubus incident Lust was removed from the additional resources for the sihedron.

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Talonhawke wrote:
After the grappling succubus incident Lust was removed from the additional resources for the sihedron.

Link? I can't find it anywhere.


[url=http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pa2b?Succubus-in-a-grapple#1] Have fun{/url]

Also my other post was joke just in case that was missed.

Grand Lodge Venture-Agent, Missouri—Cape Girardeau aka J. Wilfong

John Compton wrote:
Following further discussion, we've determined that the sihedron medallion does not grant a re-roll; it instead projects a 20-foot-radius aura of envy that affects all who see your gaming bling.

Save DC?

Paizo Employee 5/5 Pathfinder Society Lead Developer

J. Wilfong wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Following further discussion, we've determined that the sihedron medallion does not grant a re-roll; it instead projects a 20-foot-radius aura of envy that affects all who see your gaming bling.
Save DC?

1 higher than whatever your friends rolled to resist purchasing one for themselves?

To be clear, the envy aura is entirely a reference to how cool these look in person, not to any in-game effect.

Grand Lodge Venture-Agent, Missouri—Cape Girardeau aka J. Wilfong

John Compton wrote:

...1 higher than whatever your friends rolled...

Hhhhhmmm... that sounds suspiciously like some home games I've been in.

John Compton wrote:

To be clear, the envy aura is entirely a reference to how cool these look in person, not to any in-game effect.

I figured that was a joke; so was my question.

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I figured as such, too, was just trying to have fun with it...

Grand Lodge Venture-Agent, Missouri—Cape Girardeau aka J. Wilfong

Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


I figured as such, too, was just trying to have fun with it...

Damned internet forums and their inability to convey non-verbal cues!

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