Spiritualist Feats


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A player in my group wants to know if he can use Eidolon feats on his Phantom. What might be some potential problems with that? Would you allow that or no? Are there many Spiritualist specific feats out there?

Not as familiar with the Occult classes.

Thanks


No you can't.

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Milo v3 wrote:
No you can't.

I understand it's not in the rules. I'm wondering more about the philosophy behind the ruling.


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I understand it's not in the rules. I'm wondering more about the philosophy behind the ruling.

Because phantoms are not eidolon and thus don't use eidolon feats. That's it.


Milo v3 wrote:
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I understand it's not in the rules. I'm wondering more about the philosophy behind the ruling.
Because phantoms are not eidolon and thus don't use eidolon feats. That's it.

Eidolons are like an imaginary friend made real. Phantoms are basically spirits that manifest at a Spiritualist's whim. Very different. The phantom can progress, but cannot be modified by the character.

While it appears Spiritualists and Summoners are very similar, appearances are deceiving.


Eloden,

I think you are posting in the wrong sub-forum for getting the kind of answer you are looking for. Milo gave the correct answer for this forum, even if it wasn't at all what you were looking for.

If you want suggestions on implementation, post in home brew.
If you want the philosophy of it like Fourshadow wrote, try discussion.

Rules will pretty much tell you if there is a canonical way to do it or not.

EDIT. Going back to OP, you actually were asking what options you might have, so Milo was less helpful than he might have been, maybe he hadn't had his coffee. I haven't seen anything specific for what you can do there, but I really haven't been too excited by that rules arc.

Sczarni

I went ahead and flagged it for the Homebrew Forum.

Lots of useful advice and experience over there.

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Nefreet wrote:

I went ahead and flagged it for the Homebrew Forum.

Lots of useful advice and experience over there.

Thank you Nefreet and Daw. Super helpful.


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Master Elodin wrote:

A player in my group wants to know if he can use Eidolon feats on his Phantom. What might be some potential problems with that? Would you allow that or no? Are there many Spiritualist specific feats out there?

Not as familiar with the Occult classes.

Thanks

Yes, there are phantom specific Spiritualist feats that enhance/alter the phantom.


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OA

Distant Delivery
Emotional Conduit
Focused Phantom
Phantom Fighter
Phantom Fortification
Shared Soul
Spiritualist's Call
Vigilant Phantom

OO

Overwhelming Phantom
Spirit Symbiosis

On home brewing...

Keep in mind that phantoms are more powerful than animal companions and some configurations of Unchained eidolons, so house ruling their feats on phantoms could have unforeseen consequences on the character's power level.

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