Utopia or Axis?


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Where do LN characters go in their afterlife? Is it Utopia, Axis, or are both possible? Or are they the same?

Planar Adventures lists Utopia as the LN Outer Plane, but the wikis list the LN plane as Axis, and don't mention Utopia.

Can anyone explain this for me?

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Utopia is the OGL name. Axis is paizo IP.


Hmm, but the official Paizo site lists "Utopia" while the wikis use "Axis".


That's because the PRD only contains open game content.


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The PFSRD lists Axis and Utopia as separate entires. Given that the PFSRD only lists open game content that means that axis is not Paizo IP, and what exactly Utopia is is still confusing. Does anyone know what Utopia refers to? Is it a open game content name for another plane?

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Pretty much, it was a world neutral stand-in Paizo used when they didn't want to use more world specific entities such as Axis.

(A more pougnant question now is how a post from 2014 knew about Planar Adventures and what was in it when that book came out this year...)


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Rysky wrote:
(A more pougnant question now is how a post from 2014 knew about Planar Adventures and what was in it when that book came out this year...)

He was referring to the "Planar" section of the "Adventures" chapter of the GameMastery Guide. :)

Which also explains the Utopia name, at that time some of the planes used more setting-neutral names when mentioned in rulebooks.


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So what is Utopia a genric name for since we know it's not Axis?


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It is Axis, or rather the setting-neutral alternative to Axis if you're not using the Golarion cosmology. Its described like this in the GameMastery Guide:

GameMastery Guide wrote:


Utopia (Lawful Neutral)
Utopia is a bastion of order against the chaos of Limbo and the countless demonic hordes of the Abyss. A great city of eternal perfection, Utopia's streets and buildings are paragons of architecture and aesthetics; everything is ordered and nothing happens by chance. While no one race rules Utopia, axiomites and inevitables make their homes here, forever striving to expand their perfect city.

Utopia has the following traits:

Finite Shape
Divinely Morphic: Deities with domains in Utopia can alter the plane at will.
Strongly Law-Aligned
Enhanced Magic: Spells and spell-like abilities with the lawful descriptor are enhanced.
Impeded Magic: Spells and spell-like abilities with the chaotic descriptor are impeded.

The GameMastery Guide also has neutralized names for the Maelstrom (Limbo) and the Boneyard (Purgatory).

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Zaister wrote:
Rysky wrote:
(A more pougnant question now is how a post from 2014 knew about Planar Adventures and what was in it when that book came out this year...)

He was referring to the "Planar" section of the "Adventures" chapter of the GameMastery Guide. :)

Which also explains the Utopia name, at that time some of the planes used more setting-neutral names when mentioned in rulebooks.

Almost thought some sort of time traveling happened :D


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Caleb Garofalo wrote:
The PFSRD lists Axis and Utopia as separate entires. Given that the PFSRD only lists open game content that means that axis is not Paizo IP, and what exactly Utopia is is still confusing. Does anyone know what Utopia refers to? Is it a open game content name for another plane?

Actually, I think, PFSRD got confused, and they should not even be listing Axis, the Boneyard, or the Maelstrom, since these names are not Open Gaming Content. I have brought this to their attention now,


If you want you could just say Axis is the capital city of Utopia.

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