Intriguing Tidbit from Scourge of the Godclaw (spoilers)


Ironfang Invasion

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While detailing the reactions of Cheliax's neighbors to the civil war in that country, Alex Greenshields has this to say about Molthune:

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The current ruler of Molthune, Imperial Governor Markwin Teldas, is an intelligent and ruthless man who sees the upheaval in Cheliax as a way of furthering his nation's agenda. When the Chelish military makes a request for military assistance, Teldas agrees, but demands in that in return, it must supply a battalion of its best soldiers along with several platoons of bound devils to serve in his armies against the rebellious north.

Egorian agrees, though reluctantly, but informs the government in Canorate that the Molthuni troops are needed immediately and must therefore not take the lengthy route around the Menador Mountains, but travel directly through the dangerous and high Pass of Dark Rain between the two nations in order to be of any use in fighting the rebellion. The Molthuni General Lords send their most disposable non-human troops through the pass, commanded by the young and ambitious Colonel Denira Mettering. The headstrong officer wishes to make a name for herself, and ignores the advice given to her by her senior non-commissioned officers, who counsel that a complete survey of the Pass of Dark Rain must be made before an ascent is attempted. When the troops rush through the pass, a full quarter of them perish in a freak avalanche. Now desperate to escape the treacherous mountains, Mettering sends the remaining forces on a path that passes too close to the haunted ghost town of Finder's Gulch. Unknown to anyone, the abandoned settlement has become the lair of a powerful undead cleric of Urgathoa named Illcayna Alonnor (Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Undead Unleashed 60), who is slowly building an army of wights to invade Isger. When the Molthuni army makes camp for the night, the wights attack and slaughter nearly every soldier, greatly increasing the size of Alonnor's forces, and moving forward her timetable by several years.

Emphasis mine. Do we perhaps have our villains' legitimate grievance?

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Not a bad find at all. Interesting if that has really something to do with this. If not, I might add this anyway.


So then that leaves the question of what grievance the Hobgoblins have against Nirmathas? ("Humans . . . They all look alike . . . .")


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Given that Hobgoblins have probably been used in the Nirmathas conflict, They might be holding a grudge from all the lives lost to guerilla tactics and sabotage.

Although I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Ironfang were a completely different group with nothing to do with the Molthuni mercenaries

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MMCJawa wrote:
Although I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Ironfang were a completely different group with nothing to do with the Molthuni mercenaries

I dimly recall hearing that the Ironfang hobgoblins were ex-Molthuni soldiers, but I might be misremembering. Anyone who heard the GenCon announcement want to confirm either way?


UnArcaneElection wrote:

So then that leaves the question of what grievance the Hobgoblins have against Nirmathas? ("Humans . . . They all look alike . . . .")

The hobgoblins might not be looking for revenge so much as a place to escape Molthune, making the neighboring country they've campaigned through a decent choice.

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
Although I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Ironfang were a completely different group with nothing to do with the Molthuni mercenaries
I dimly recall hearing that the Ironfang hobgoblins were ex-Molthuni soldiers, but I might be misremembering.

Again, great idea if true. Would explain the possible overrun even more if their commanders and officers know the practises of both nations armies.


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Love me some highlander Urgathoan evils like that Frost Giantess in Giantslayer. Pretty sure this has to tie into Ironfang.

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Yakman wrote:
Love me some highlander Urgathoan evils like that Frost Giantess in Giantslayer. Pretty sure this has to tie into Ironfang.

Pretty sure that if it does, it's in the background. Alonnor almost certainly won't appear. She's on the verge of being BBEG material: CR 19, casting as a 17th-level Cleric. That's about as strong as Rasputin from Rasputin Must Die!. And Ironfang Invasion's ending

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takes place on the Elemental Plane of Earth, far from her area of influence.

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one thing that i enjoy about APs is loose ends.

For instance, the evil mummy queen is pretty easy to miss finally slaying in Mummy's Mask - I can easily see her as the BBEG of a sequel Osirion AP involving the Dominion of the Black.

The Urgathoan Ice Queen in Giantslayer is also pretty survivable. There's Barzillai's mysterious sister in Hell's Rebels, etc. etc. etc.

it's possible that Alonnor's influence is encountered, even if she isn't defeated, which makes her an excellent BBEG for an Isger/Cheliax/Molthune AP.

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