Any ways to wield a spiked chain one-handed?


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So far, the ONLY time that was possible was in Drow of the Underdark, from WotC, as a Cavestalker (PrC).

Using any of the Pathfinder rules, is there a way to wield a spiked chain one-handed... in a reasonably adequate manner?

Long story short, I plan to have a NPC being a vigilante of the Serial Killer archetype... who also happens to own a Hooked Massacre (a magic spiked chain which lets use it a Reach weapon in addition of granting you a free attack if you Drag the target.) Combined this with a second weapon, this could be a good combo.

At the very best, I use an overweight chain-wielding gunslinger known as the "Road Hog" XD


You could try using a spiked chain intended for a creature a size smaller than you. You take penalties to attack and damage, but it goes down a step in "handedness".


Does it have to be a spiked chain? Could you use a scorpion whip?


They fixed titan mauler to let you do this, iirc.


Use a Flail instead of a spiked chain.


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No, no, of course not. Then someone would have a reason to ever use a Spiked Chain. Can't have that.


To me this would be the Chinese chain whip rather than the spiked chain as described in the rules....


Lovin the Overwatch reference. Now I'm curious about how one would actually design a roadhog character. I imagine he'd have improved reposition and maybe a pepperbox for a firearm. The possibilities are endless.


It's outside the box but legal is this. There are rules for creating new weapons. Simply make a Spiked chain a one handed weapon as it was in third ed.

Scarab Sages

A spiked chain? I don't think so. Well there might be one or two Fighter/Barbarian archetypes that allow something similar.

Now if you were talking about a dwarf wielding a dorn dergar (a ball and chain with adjustable reach that can be wielded with either one or both hands) that's another matter. It "might" take investing something like 3 feats to do it properly but it's pretty impressive when pulled off correctly.


The closest we get is the Dwarven Dorn Dergar with a couple feats.

Alternatively, whip proficiency + scorpion whip proficiency gives you the reach one-handed, but it doesn't allow attacks of opportunity, so you might not be interested.

Sadly, spiked chains got nerfed hard in pathfinder, and the few abilities that worked with them specifically were not copied over.

One way (the only way) to do it would be to take two levels of Titan Mauler barbarian for Jotungrip. You take a -2 penalty on attack rolls, but otherwise it does what you want.


Derek Dalton wrote:
It's outside the box but legal is this. There are rules for creating new weapons. Simply make a Spiked chain a one handed weapon as it was in third ed.

Thta is a possibility, as is the possibility to "strip" the Hooked Massacre's enhancement and apply it to another weapon, such as a scorpion whip. That wasn't out of the question, but I wanted to survey my opinion without going too much out of bound ;)


Titan Mauler is the most legal no-frills way of doing this.


Too bad it's not a pole arm. There is a weapon trick for that.


What if you used a small spiked chain? Seems odd but doable, and only a -2 to hit. You do compromise on damage, but the fluff is important right?

Scarab Sages

Do you actually intend to use two weapon fighting with this or do you just want another weapon? Because you still threaten with non-hand weapons if you are using a two-handed weapon, so you could use spiked chain + armor spikes or boulder helmet if not using the two weapon fighting feats.

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