Module 3 players tier 10-12


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Sovereign Court 4/5

One question ...

What happens if you have 3 PCs ... but dont have pregens of the tier needed? (I am thinking in Ruby P. Tournament, tier 10-12).

can not it be played? 3 PCs + NPC Pregen from the module? NPC #7 level?

4/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Finland—Tampere

Can't be done, unfortunately.

Silver Crusade 5/5 5/5 **

Is it legal to run with only the 3 characters? Given the power creep a reasonably built team of 3 will still probably crush the module.

I don't think it is technically legal but it definitely seems like it should be. I guess there would be a bit of peer pressure to play on but people playing modules with a lower character range of 8+ should be able to withstand that pressure

The Exchange 5/5

Paul Jackson wrote:

Is it legal to run with only the 3 characters? Given the power creep a reasonably built team of 3 will still probably crush the module.

I don't think it is technically legal but it definitely seems like it should be. I guess there would be a bit of peer pressure to play on but people playing modules with a lower character range of 8+ should be able to withstand that pressure

A legal PFS table requires four characters, and a maximum of one of those can be a NPC pregen. If you are running material outside of the level ranges that the pregens cover you need a minimum of four players to run a table.

5/5 5/55/5

This is a rule but I'm thinking why is it a rule? Why not have the ability to run with 1 less character for tables with tiers with no pre-gens.

5/5 5/55/5

Now that all modules can be run in Campaign Mode per the latest guide, it doesn't matter how many characters play in that mode. Run it in Campaign mode to PFS legal characters. And apply the chronicle sheet to the actual PFS character.

The Exchange 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Ireland—Belfast

Back in Feb 2014 Mike Brock said you could run an AP in campaign mode even using a different RPG system! So if one of the readings of the new guide, that all sanctioned modules can now be run in campaign mode is right: a window may have opened! Though Module mode paragraph implies they cannot, the campaign mode section expressly says they can so I would watch this space.

The Exchange 5/5

Looking at the paragraphs in the new Season 8 Guide for Campaign mode, Module mode and Sanctioned material. You still need to follow the rules provided with the sanctioned module's chronicle sheets on how to run a table. The sanctioning documents for Thornkeep, Emerald Spire and all of the older 32 page modules don't allow campaign mode to be used.

Having only 3 players in campaign mode would be fine, but it looks like you're still limited to using campaign mode with APs and the newer 64 page modules. Unless campaign leadership makes adjustments to all of the module sanctioning documents after Gen Con.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Washington—Spokane

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Vinyc Kettlebek wrote:

Looking at the paragraphs in the new Season 8 Guide for Campaign mode, Module mode and Sanctioned material. You still need to follow the rules provided with the sanctioned module's chronicle sheets oh how to run a table. The sanctioning documents for Thornkeep, Emerald Spire and all of the older 32 page modules don't allow campaign mode to be used.

Having only 3 players in campaign mode would be fine, but it looks like you're still limited to using campaign mode with APs and the newer 64 page modules. Unless campaign leadership makes adjustments to all of the module sactioning documents after Gen Con.

^^This is correct.

32 page sanctioned modules - Do not allow for a campaign mode and must be run in accordance with PFS rules.

64+ page sanctioned modules - Campaign mode is only allowed if indicated within the sanctioning document (Rules to run the Module and Chronicles) for the module.

Adventure Paths - Campaign Mode or Module Modes are available unless otherwise indicated in the sanctioning document.


William Boyle wrote:
Back in Feb 2014 Mike Brock said you could run an AP in campaign mode even using a different RPG system!

That only applied to those APs which were written for 3.X, and sanctioned for PFS play without being updated to Pathfinder.


Roy Rydbeck wrote:
This is a rule but I'm thinking why is it a rule? Why not have the ability to run with 1 less character for tables with tiers with no pre-gens.

Because given the nature of those modules, running with just 3 PFS legal characters carries a high risk of failure and character death.

Sovereign Court 4/5

Thanks to all ... it is a difficult question!!

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To address the lack of a player, perhaps putting a post on the forums looking for a player to fill the gap might work?

The Exchange 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Ireland—Belfast

Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
William Boyle wrote:
Back in Feb 2014 Mike Brock said you could run an AP in campaign mode even using a different RPG system!
That only applied to those APs which were written for 3.X, and sanctioned for PFS play without being updated to Pathfinder.

Thanks for letting me know. What I was remembering is a thread about running Jade Regent using 13th Age! Pretty sure Mike said it was OK as long as it was campaign mode.

If Mike (or anyone else) clarified this further & I missed it, mea culpa. If there is a list of restrictions on how campaign mode works I'd appreciate any help in my efforts to dig them up!

Vinyc & Preston! Thanks for the clarifications!

I will spread the word!

Pg. 11 PSRGG wrote:

In addition to scenarios, the Roleplaying Guild also offers sanctioned modules and Adventure Paths. This additional content works differently from standard scenario play as outlined below.

Characters: Depending on which mode the content is played, only certain characters are allowed .

Campaign Mode: For sanctioned modules and Adventure Paths, GMs are allowed to use their own rules for character creation and running the presented content (the entire book or series)

Should be read as meaning. For those modules & APs which have sanctioning documents permitting campaign mode......

The current wording caused some of excitement.

W

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Netherlands

Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
William Boyle wrote:
Back in Feb 2014 Mike Brock said you could run an AP in campaign mode even using a different RPG system!
That only applied to those APs which were written for 3.X, and sanctioned for PFS play without being updated to Pathfinder.

All sanctioned APs can be run in campaing mode. There are no APs that were written for 3.5 sanctioned. (rise of the runelords only has the anniversary edition sanctioned)

Silver Crusade 5/5

Tineke Bolleman wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
William Boyle wrote:
Back in Feb 2014 Mike Brock said you could run an AP in campaign mode even using a different RPG system!
That only applied to those APs which were written for 3.X, and sanctioned for PFS play without being updated to Pathfinder.
All sanctioned APs can be run in campaing mode. There are no APs that were written for 3.5 sanctioned. (rise of the runelords only has the anniversary edition sanctioned)

Tineke is correct. There are no sanctioned 3.5 AP's. So William, your original assertion is correct. If I wanted to I could run Iron Gods in Savage Worlds or Giantslayer in Harnmaster or some other system if I want to.

The Exchange 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Ireland—Belfast

Mitch Mutrux wrote:
Tineke Bolleman wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
William Boyle wrote:
Back in Feb 2014 Mike Brock said you could run an AP in campaign mode even using a different RPG system!
That only applied to those APs which were written for 3.X, and sanctioned for PFS play without being updated to Pathfinder.
All sanctioned APs can be run in campaing mode. There are no APs that were written for 3.5 sanctioned. (rise of the runelords only has the anniversary edition sanctioned)
Tineke is correct. There are no sanctioned 3.5 AP's. So William, your original assertion is correct. If I wanted to I could run Iron Gods in Savage Worlds or Giantslayer in Harnmaster or some other system if I want to.

Mitch & Tineke.

Thanks! I was pretty sure of my facts not least as Jade Regent is PFRPG and we are still waiting for any 3.5 APs to be sanctioned but I am always willing to change my position if proved wrong!

That and This

I will not be surprised if there are a few speedy clarifications to sanctioned material and some other parts of the new guide!

W

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