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If you had given a monkey the same amount of money and had that monkey pick 20 companies to invest in, the monkey would be richer than Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is less skilled at business than a random zoo animal.

Well, to be fair, the monkey couldn't do it on its own, you'd have to help the monkey by setting up some situation where you randomly translate monkey behavior into stocks that you pick, such as putting up five hundred CEO cardboard cutouts each representing an S&P 500 company and seeing which ones it threw...

...you know what, never mind.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I'm absolutely voting for Hillary Clinton.

I already voted for Hillary Clinton. Yay for early voting by mail! :-)


doc roc wrote:
The fact is he has made a success in life OUTSIDE politics...

Actually, not so much.


He was handed a successful life outside of politics.


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We vote in person, as a family, for every election, no matter how small. :-)


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captain yesterday wrote:
We vote in person, as a family, for every election, no matter how small. :-)

That has to be an interesting car ride. I think if my family tried that we'd need police fire and ems following us as a caravan.


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We walk, our polling place is three blocks away with two stoplights, but a tunnel for pedestrians, it takes me longer to drive. :-)


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captain yesterday wrote:
We vote in person, as a family, for every election, no matter how small. :-)

Nice tradition.


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captain yesterday wrote:
We walk, our polling place is three blocks away with two stoplights, but a tunnel for pedestrians, it takes me longer to drive. :-)

Sadly, I live in Arizona.


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doc roc wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
If your options are tread water or "here hold this anchor" ... you tread water.

There is waaaaaaay too much doom monegring and hyperbole regarding Donald Trump and what will happen if he gets in.... its all a tad childish IMO

If he was this complete basket case with his finger just itching to wipe us all off the face of the planet... how on earth has he come to be in his position today?

The fact is he has made a success in life OUTSIDE politics which is a damn sight more than can be said for 95% of politicians.

HC has gone her entire life trying 100% just to be beige, safe in the knowledge that most people are deep down sheep like creatures and will go for the "safe and sensible" vote...... she sknew that if she hang around long enough in Washington and said middle of the road things, that she would get given a go.

Has Donald Trump said things in his life that have come back to haunt him?.... ABSOLUTELY.

But then lets not pretend that various presidents over the years have been paragons of virtue shall we?

LOL..... BC spent most of his time in office trying to get laid for gods sake!

The great and "can do no wrong" JFK only got into office cos he was in bed with the mob!!!

Trump might make a mess if he gets in (extremely unlikely).... but I tell you this with complete certainty, he is also 20x more likely to achieve something of real worth than HC, who will achieve nothing.

This is a microcosm of the entire election.

"He's good at X"
"Heres a bunch of evidence that he's not good at X"
"He's good at X and she's horrible about Y"
"Actually here's a bunch of evidence she's not horrible about Y"
"Well she's still bad and he's so good at X I think it won't matter."


I am 53 years old. The first presidential election I voted in was in 1984. I have, like so many others, never seen anything like this. All comments otherwise, I mean this

I am scared.

I will vote for Hillary, I support the Democratic Party platform, always have.

The news stories about how angry that man's supporters are, how they are chanting violent revolution in the event Hillary should win, is making me more frightened for the safety of people in this country than I have even been

Liberty's Edge

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Terquem wrote:
The news stories about how angry that man's supporters are, how they are chanting violent revolution in the event Hillary should win, is making me more frightened for the safety of people in this country than I have even been

I keep waiting for people to call the Trump revolutionaries, Kansas plotters, and militia types in general 'radical Republican terrorists'.

Maybe then the people who keep whining about Obama's choice of words (e.g. Trump, in the 2nd debate) would finally understand why it's a bad idea to combine the label 'radical terrorist' with a wider group.


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doc roc wrote:
But then lets not pretend that various presidents over the years have been paragons of virtue shall we?

There's a long distance between wasn't a "paragon of virtue" and talks about how he can get away with sexual assault because he's a star.


doc roc wrote:


If he was this complete basket case with his finger just itching to wipe us all off the face of the planet... how on earth has he come to be in his position today?

I think I could ask the same question about Kim Kardashian.

The answer in both cases is the same.

* They have a hell of a lot of family money behind them, more than enough to insulate them from most if not all of the negative consequences of their lifestyles.
* They are very mediagenic and willing to do almost anything to embarrass themselves or others as long as it gets them attention.

So, basically, aside from the fact that Ms. Kardashian is too young, Mr. Trump has exactly the same qualifications for the presidency that she has.

Liberty's Edge

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I dunno Orfamay.

Compared to Trump... Kardashian might actually count as a business success. And thus be MORE qualified for the job.


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doc roc wrote:


There is waaaaaaay too much doom monegring and hyperbole regarding Donald Trump and what will happen if he gets in.... its all a tad childish IMO

What am I exaggerating about?

The gulf between the investing class and the other 99.9% of america will continue to increase. He IS the investing class. His listed, stated, on his website plan is to cut corporate taxes further. We have TRIED this. Trickle down economics does not work.

Citizens united will remain law if not get stronger: his campaign manager is the lawyer that got citizens united made law. With this in place the investing class will have more money to keep the investing class making more money.

Women's Right to choose will be curtailed His entire party dredges up votes for trickle down economics based on this issue. If he's willing to stand up to his party on this, picking the man who signed a law requiring women to have funerals aborted fetuses as his vice presidentail pick isn't exactly an indication of that. He's going to pick a supreme court nominee all about "States rights" and Big business interests, and part of that package is interfering with the right to choose.

More militarization of the police He outright said he wants to EXPAND the illegal stop and frisk operations but only for THOSE PEOPLE. [stage whisper]you know. Minorities [/stage whisper]

Ignore the problems of global warming: He's called it a plot by china and said we need to keep looking into it before deciding how to procede... which pretty much means never doing anything about it if the evidence and 99% of climate scientists isn't already swaying you.

That last one will LITERALLY have you treading water.

So no, its not childish, it's not an exaggeration, and you should be able to tell that because you can't meaningfully respond with anything but an insult. I mean yes, sneaking a quip in here and there is part and parcel of a conversation but it has to go with some substance. Like the candidate himself the argument for trump doesn't have any.

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If he was this complete basket case with his finger just itching to wipe us all off the face of the planet... how on earth has he come to be in his position today?

The old fashioned way. He inherited it. He didn't just get the "small loan" of a few million 1972 money, he also inherited his fathers company when his father retired.

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HC has gone her entire life trying 100% just to be beige, safe in the knowledge that most people are deep down sheep like creatures and will go for the "safe and sensible" vote......

As opposed to giving the wolves rabies injections to get them motivated and acting shocked when something goes wrong...

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But then lets not pretend that various presidents over the years have been paragons of virtue shall we?

Certainly. Washington owned slaves, Jefferson slept with his, Kennedy... just kennedy. Nixon prolonged a war to help himself get into office...

But republicans and trump are the ones that keep touting the idea that you need moral fiber to hold public office, that the spirit of the nation flows from the leaders personal integrity. You can't do that and then have someone that gives pond scum a bad name running for office.

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LOL..... BC spent most of his time in office trying to get laid for gods sake!

Which is fine, because democrats aren't the ones running on the idea that we need family values or our country will fall apart.

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Trump might make a mess if he gets in (extremely unlikely).... but I tell you this with complete certainty, he is also 20x more likely to achieve something of real worth than HC, who will achieve nothing.

Real worth to WHO? Another gilded age?


GreyWolfLord wrote:
BUT, it is dangerous to someone like me. There is something called white privilege. I'd say there is something else that I would call non-Asian or non-Arabic privilege. I've repeatedly stated, much to many who mock me, that Asians are the most discriminated race in the US today. People don't realize that because the same reason whites don't realize white privilege.

How many unarmed Asians have been shot by police? Or hanged by Klansman? Is there discrimination against Asians, hell yes. But if you're going to argue a competition about who gets s~&#-canned the most, you'll need to come up with some statistics.


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Coriat wrote:
doc roc wrote:

The fact is he has made a success in life OUTSIDE politics which is a damn sight more than can be said for 95% of politicians.

Well, on the off chance that anything other than sexual assault is still relevant to this election, Reuters did an investigation back in the summer as to whether Trump's investments have been paying off, specifically golf courses, which are a focus of his investments. They concluded that he'd spent about $1.1 billion building a portfolio now worth only $500-$600 million.

Trump at the time insisted that the Reuters story on his golf courses was false and that "every one of them makes a lot of money."

His US golf course financial information is still secret (I believe), but recent filings on his Scottish courses reveal that they are, in fact, losing a lot of money. Reuters did a small followup story recently after the British filings just to confirm that they were in fact deep in the red.

It's been estimated that if Trump had simply taken the inheritance he had gotten from his father and simply just invested it, he'd be a lot richer than he is now. His profits have been mainly from letting others take the load for his bankruptcies, and the fraud his various companies and university have become. And he did take at least one billion dollar losss on the one tax return we know about.

I would say that a very likely reason that Trump isn't ever going to release his returns is that it will reveal that His Fiscal Emperor doesn't have any clothes on. That he isn't nearly as wealthy and successful that he claims to be, and that myth of the magic of the Trump brand is his only real asset.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
GreyWolfLord wrote:
BUT, it is dangerous to someone like me. There is something called white privilege. I'd say there is something else that I would call non-Asian or non-Arabic privilege. I've repeatedly stated, much to many who mock me, that Asians are the most discriminated race in the US today. People don't realize that because the same reason whites don't realize white privilege.
How many unarmed Asians have been shot by police? Or hanged by Klansman? Is there discrimination against Asians, hell yes. But if you're going to argue a competition about who gets s~&!-canned the most, you'll need to come up with some statistics.

... but not, I hope, in this thread.


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Turin the Mad wrote:

Speaking of "men like Trump" tickled something in the deep memory section. This should shed some light on matters.

Still poking around to see if I can find what matches up with what memory is saying.

Edit: Interview with a 16 year undercover FBI agent who upset the white supremacist apple cart several times.

2nd edit: Found close to what memory stirred from July 2006.

In a nutshell, "men like Trump" have been and are infiltrating the armed services, law enforcement and who knows what else in pursuit of this hideous agenda for more than a decade.

What is really scary is that we're only hearing about the dumb ones.

Allow me to correct you.

What is really scary is that despite all the wholesale spying on every citizen (thanks NSA!), it remains a fact that we only catch the dumb ones.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
snip More militarization of the police He outright said he wants to EXPAND the illegal stop and frisk operations but only for THOSE PEOPLE. [stage whisper]you know. Minorities [/stage whisper]/snip

You do realize that police are funded locally?

What Trump wants and what he gets won't match up.


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Quark Blast wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
snip More militarization of the police He outright said he wants to EXPAND the illegal stop and frisk operations but only for THOSE PEOPLE. [stage whisper]you know. Minorities [/stage whisper]/snip

You do realize that police are funded locally?

What Trump wants and what he gets won't match up.

They might be funded locally, but they have to buy all those shiny military surplus weapons and equipment somewhere.


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Quark Blast wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
snip More militarization of the police He outright said he wants to EXPAND the illegal stop and frisk operations but only for THOSE PEOPLE. [stage whisper]you know. Minorities [/stage whisper]/snip

You do realize that police are funded locally?

Oh, you sweet, summer child. I'm afraid your naïveté knows no limits, does it?

The first link, in particular, is a program that allows local law enforcement to help themselves to all the military equipment they can justify at zero cost. What better way to ensure militarization of the police than to directly militarize them?


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bugleyman wrote:
Quark Blast wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
snip More militarization of the police He outright said he wants to EXPAND the illegal stop and frisk operations but only for THOSE PEOPLE. [stage whisper]you know. Minorities [/stage whisper]/snip

You do realize that police are funded locally?

What Trump wants and what he gets won't match up.

They might be funded locally, but they have to buy all those shiny military surplus weapons and equipment somewhere.

No, they don't. They don't need to buy them, as the Fed just gives them the toys.

The 1033 Program wrote:

The 1033 Program (formerly the 1208 Program) permits the Secretary of Defense to transfer, without charge, excess U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) personal property (supplies and equipment) to state and local law enforcement agencies (LEAs).

Silver Crusade

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Radly Balko's "Rise of the Warrior Cop" is getting a little long in the tooth, but does a good job of exploring the origins & arc of police militarization, as well as exploring the warfighting gear pipeline to police forces. Long story short: those "locally funded" police get a LOT of money & equipment, as long as they can make a halfway plausible story about how that gear would be helpful in a terror attack and/or for catching weed growers.

Sovereign Court

Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
GreyWolfLord wrote:
BUT, it is dangerous to someone like me. There is something called white privilege. I'd say there is something else that I would call non-Asian or non-Arabic privilege. I've repeatedly stated, much to many who mock me, that Asians are the most discriminated race in the US today. People don't realize that because the same reason whites don't realize white privilege.
How many unarmed Asians have been shot by police? Or hanged by Klansman? Is there discrimination against Asians, hell yes. But if you're going to argue a competition about who gets s$*%-canned the most, you'll need to come up with some statistics.

To be fair, Asians receive far fewer police bullet donations then even whites. It's time for them to rise up and demand equality!


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Just one more thing I'd like to add about Trump's business acumen.

He lost a billion dollars in a single year.

Yes, I know..... tax writeoffs, didn't need to give the IRS a dime for fifteen years, yadda, yadda. But look at that statement again.

Trump lost a billion dollars in a single year.

All that the tax treatment does is let him offset his taxes, from other (profitable) investments, so that, if, somehow, he owes a billion dollars in taxes over the next fifteen years, he gets back to where he started. (And if he has another bad year, well, he won't even make back his billion.)

If someone were to give me a billion dollars right now, I could easily and almost mindlessly turn it into two billion in ten years and in fifteen, into almost three. ("Hello, Vanguard? I'd like to buy all of your index funds!") If he had not lost that money when he did, he would have been able to do the same thing -- easily and mindlessly turn it into three billion dollars, which mean that he would be $2B ahead of the game instead of a billion down and breaking even after playing for fifteen years.

Tax shelters be damned -- the guy's no business genius for gambling like that.

Sovereign Court

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Trump is so good at business that banks in New Your won't lend him money.


Quark Blast wrote:
You do realize that police are funded locally?

In addition to Federal equipment and Federal hiring grants, they also can seize any private citizen's property. If they want your car, they can take it. You don't even have to be charged with a crime, much less found guilty. So yeah, funded locally simply by deciding what assets (cash, home, car) they want from you and then conducting a raid on your home.

Civil Forfeiture


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CrystalSeas wrote:
Quark Blast wrote:
You do realize that police are funded locally?

In addition to Federal equipment and Federal hiring grants, they also can seize any private citizen's property. If they want your car, they can take it. You don't even have to be charged with a crime, much less found guilty. So yeah, funded locally simply by deciding what assets (cash, home, car) they want from you and then conducting a raid on your home.

Civil Forfeiture

Where I did my grad schooling, it was well known for police to drive around and stop students walking back to their dorm at night from near the bar area (especially around homecoming/graduation/similar events), who were just trying to get home and were not causing any problems. They would then do a breathalyser and ticket them for public intoxication or some similar nonsense, soley because the the ticket meant $$$

This only encouraged many students to DRIVE home drunk from bars or parties, since they could get home faster and not have to worry about tickets.


MMCJawa wrote:
because the the ticket meant $$$

This skips all that "ticket" nonsense. To get a ticket means you've been charged with a crime. You may or may not be guilty and thus may (or may not) have to pay the fine.

Civil Forfeiture skips all that and just grabs what you have. They can take your cash, any of your belongings, your car, your house. All they have to do is stop you.

They don't even have to give you a ticket, just take your stuff. Even if you're not found guilty they get to keep your stuff. Even if they never charge you with anything they get to keep your stuff.


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In today's news, (the battleground state of) Ohio's state GOP chairman, Matt Borges, was apparently wavering in his support for Trump, so the Trump campaign cut ties with him.

GOP State Director Bob Paduchik said "Mr. Trump told me, 'This is why people have lost faith in the establishment and party leaders.' I have to agree with him. Too often some leaders of our party have been quick to bail on candidates and principles; it's why our nation is on the wrong track."

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Too quick to bail on him? Really, Mr. Paduchik? Really? After all of the scandals and offensive things he's said? What, may I ask, would someone slow to bail look like?

Although I agree that you've been too quick to bail on principles. Your party barely even pretended to have them this year.

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I think I posted this elsewhere, but 17% of the US is Hispanic, and the majority of them support the Democratic ticket, 12% of the US is African American and the majority of them support the Democratic ticket, only about 1% of the US population is Muslim and they're a culturally insignificant number to worry about nationally. So when Trump comes out against Mexicans, wants stop and frisk nationally, wants to ban all Muslims that's not going to hurt the average republican. They literally don't care about those statements. Now when Trump brags about sexual assault that's 50% of the country and likely 50% of the republican base, that's why they're suddenly "appalled" at Trump's conduct. Certainly there seemed to be a sudden need to distance themselves from trump, but as I've also said elsewhere, Trump supporters are maniacs and support him regardless. People who claim to have been appalled and now are returning to Trump are doing so because it seems politically expedient to do so.

Silver Crusade

GreyWolfLord wrote:

I might have, but recently, the entire biased and control she has over the media reminds me almost of the old USSR days when they controlled the media in the same way.

Not only the US media. She apparently controls the media in (at least) Britain (I read the BBC on a regular basis) and up here in Canada too.

I mean, they all report the same things as the US media does.

Heck, even Fox News mostly reports the same things :-)


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GreyWolfLord wrote:

I might have, but recently, the entire biased and control she has over the media reminds me almost of the old USSR days when they controlled the media in the same way.

Not only the US media. She apparently controls the media in (at least) Britain (I read the BBC on a regular basis) and up here in Canada too.

I mean, they all report the same things as the US media does.

Heck, even Fox News mostly reports the same things :-)

Well, the USA is the most powerful English-speaking nation on Earth. It's only reasonable that the English-language press would all be under the control of the same (US-based) cartel.

... or maybe it's just that they're all reporting the same set of facts, because Clinton has something on God HImself, and he is re-creating the world to fit her desired state.


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See, that's the issue right there. They are reporting on the facts. Everyone knows the facts have a well known liberal bias. Where has all the objective, non-partisan reporting gone?


Middle Earth, Snow.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:

The gulf between the investing class and the other 99.9% of america will continue to increase. He IS the investing class. His listed, stated, on his website plan is to cut corporate taxes further. We have TRIED this. Trickle down economics does not work.

Citizens united will remain law if not get stronger: his campaign manager is the lawyer that got citizens united made law. With this in place the investing class will have more money to keep the investing class making more money.

More militarization of the police He outright said he wants to EXPAND the illegal stop and frisk operations but only for THOSE PEOPLE. [stage whisper]you know. Minorities [/stage whisper]

Ignore the problems of global warming: He's called it a plot by china and said we need to keep looking into it before deciding how to procede... which pretty much means never doing anything about it if the evidence and 99% of climate scientists isn't already swaying you.

Obama and Hillary are also the investing class, as are the people paying for their campaigns. The gap between rich and poor got worse under Clinton, Obama, and the same will happen under Hillary, despite her pandering to the middle and lower class voters. She is the poster girl for neo liberal, trickle-down economics. Has been for something like 30 years. Hillary is going to deregulate industry, especially the financial sector. There will be a bubble, and things will seem OK, but when it bursts, the wealthy will have much more, and the poor will have much less. Just like happened under Bill, who Hillary has promised to "put in charge of the economy".

Citizens United isn't going anywhere.
Hillary is as "tough on crime" as most Republicans. She has a long history of brutalizing criminals, and supporting police state policies including mass incarceration. Look at what democratic superstar Rahm Emanuel has done in Chicago - (covered up a murder by his police force).
Hillary (and Obama) are "All of the above" energy types. They love "clean coal", fracking, nuclear, etc. She isn't going to do anything meaningful for the environment, just like Obama.

I don't disagree with most of your other points in your post, but Hillary has a long record of doing the opposite of the above points you brought up. Maybe she will go against her record, and against her top funders, but I see virtually no reason to believe she is going to suddenly have a huge change of heart. Obama didn't, and people are still flocking to vote in another 4 years of the same. Don't be fooled!


Fergie wrote:


Hillary is as "tough on crime" as most Republicans. She has a long history of brutalizing criminals, and supporting police state policies including mass incarceration. Look at what democratic superstar Rahm Emanuel has done in Chicago -...

Lets assume that's true.

Do you think she will push those policies AS far as trump would?


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Fergie wrote:


Hillary is as "tough on crime" as most Republicans. She has a long history of brutalizing criminals, and supporting police state policies including mass incarceration. Look at what democratic superstar Rahm Emanuel has done in Chicago -...

Lets assume that's true.

Do you think she will push those policies AS far as trump would?

I think that a democrat would have more success pushing something like that (with half-hearted republican opposition), then a Republican would with hopefully serious democratic opposition. Bill Clinton's legacy was one of kicking people off welfare, and getting tough on crime, that most republicans would probably not have gotten away with.

Same goes for foreign policy. Clinton is going to have a field day kicking over small countries like she did in Libya, and there is going to be no meaningful opposition. Arms dealing and military adventurism is going to be the hallmarks of her administrations foreign policy.


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...I don't think "half-hearted opposition" is the right way to describe what a Republican Congress is going to be like if Hillary's elected.


Fergie wrote:

Same goes for foreign policy. Clinton is going to have a field day kicking over small countries like she did in Libya, and there is going to be no meaningful opposition.

I saw what kind of "opposition" democrats managed against bush and cannot believe that this is remotely plausible.


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Rednal wrote:
...I don't think "half-hearted opposition" is the right way to describe what a Republican Congress is going to be like if Hillary's elected.

Depends on the issue. I hear a lot of whining from the republicans, but did anyone try to stop Obama from deporting millions of people? Raising taxes on working people? Supporting a "stimulus package" that dramatically transferred wealth to the very top?

Is there going to be meaningful opposition to the TPP when Hillary pushes for it?

It's good cop/bad cop. They are in brutal opposition over issues that don't matter, or strongly motivate the voting base, but when it comes to really serious stuff like invading Iraq, or some trade deal that ships jobs overseas, well... somehow these manage to pass. Funny how that works... It's almost as if they are serving their wealthy donors, and all this politics stuff is a side show to fool the rubes.


Fergie wrote:
Rednal wrote:
...I don't think "half-hearted opposition" is the right way to describe what a Republican Congress is going to be like if Hillary's elected.

Depends on the issue. I hear a lot of whining from the republicans, but did anyone try to stop Obama from deporting millions of people? Raising taxes on working people? Supporting a "stimulus package" that dramatically transferred wealth to the very top?

Is there going to be meaningful opposition to the TPP when Hillary pushes for it?

It's good cop/bad cop. They are in brutal opposition over issues that don't matter, or strongly motivate the voting base, but when it comes to really serious stuff like invading Iraq, or some trade deal that ships jobs overseas, well... somehow these manage to pass. Funny how that works... It's almost as if they are serving their wealthy donors, and all this politics stuff is a side show to fool the rubes.

You know, I was going to debate some of those points, but if you really believe that last bit, what's the point.

If our entire government is just a conspiracy against us, then none of this matters. It's all a sideshow. What's the answer? If that's really what's going on, what do you think we should do? Join the militias and start blowing up government offices? Short of violent rebellion (which would likely just be coopted by the elites anyway) is there anything to be done?


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I'm apart of the conspiracy. I'm the 665th clone of the Anti-Christ that the C.I.A. made to help kick start the Apocalypse just in case they needed help.


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Fergie wrote:
It's almost as if they are serving their wealthy donors, and all this politics stuff is a side show to fool the rubes.

Politics is the entertainment wing of the military industrial complex...


I thought it was the money earning wing, Hatti...


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Fergie wrote:

I hear a lot of whining from the republicans, but did anyone try to stop Obama from deporting millions of people? Raising taxes on working people?

Wow is that misleading.

First off the employer pays that tax, not the employee.

Secondly Obama didn't raise it: the tax cut had a sunset provision in there and obama couldn't get congress to extend it, because congress. You remember that congress that blamed him for the bill that they passed over his veto? THAT congress?


Or the one that shut down the government because they wanted to cut stuff, right Hatti back in 2011.


So, I've seen the same political ad (OMG, Bill Clinton said something about Obamacare! Vote Trump!) about 40 times in a row now on YouTube, sometimes as many as five times in the same video.

I'm trying to figure out if this is a plot of the DNC, to sour more people on Trump through annoyance, or a plot by YouTube to sell Red (ad free) subscriptions.

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