Re: Are there plans to make Stats for the Iconics for Magus, Cavalier, Oracle, Inquisitor, Summoner, Witch, and Alchemist?


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4/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Finland—Tampere

Nefreet wrote:

I couldn't kill anyone in BK3, either.

Stupid Tea Set.

Stupid, STUPID shadow projection on a fox form kitsune...

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

TOZ wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
Stupid Tea Set.
I don't...what...how did they get that?

38,160 gp

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Man, and I thought you needed the chronicle. Hmm...

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

He may have been Exchange, as well.

Dark Archive 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Rei wrote:
Nefreet wrote:

I couldn't kill anyone in BK3, either.

Stupid Tea Set.

Stupid, STUPID shadow projection on a fox form kitsune...

Eh... I'm on the fence about the size bonus being retained...

Dark Archive 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 ****

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Nefreet wrote:
TOZ wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
Stupid Tea Set.
I don't...what...how did they get that?
38,160 gp

I am now trying to decide if I can afford both this and the banner of the linnorm kings... That is a LOT of cash, but I cannot think of anything that the Wu Chai Tea empire needs more than that tea set!

Hmm

Scarab Sages 4/5 5/55/55/5 *** Venture-Captain, Australia—NSW—Greater West

For those who are interested...looks like the new pregens are now available for download....woo hoo

Silver Crusade 1/5 Contributor

Where are they at? It's sad, I know, but I can't find the download...

Dark Archive 4/5

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If you've ever downloaded the pregens before, then they should already be in your downloads. It shows the last update as today, and you just need to download them again to see the new shiny options! :)

Edit: They also appear under the free resource options for Organized Play

The Exchange 4/5 Owner - D20 Hobbies

TOZ wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
Stupid Tea Set.
I don't...what...how did they get that?

I'll have one within 1 or 2 sessions of hitting 41,000 gp Fame cap!

Liberty's Edge 2/5

I have a question about the Magus pregen Seltyiel. His level 1 sheet has him having spellstrike, which is a level 2 ability. I am still new to Pathfinder so am wondering how this works.

Silver Crusade 1/5 Contributor

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Almost certainly an error. ^_^

Also, I noticed Seltyiel did get the neutralizing treatment (as anticipated). Some of the altered language in the Guide about "wanton evil" did make me a little curious...

Grand Lodge 4/5

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Nefreet wrote:

I couldn't kill anyone in BK3, either.

Stupid Tea Set.

Greater heroism lasts minutes per level. It may be harsh, but that's how long that effect lasts at my table.

Scarab Sages 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Oregon—Portland

Anyone else notice that while Seltyiel's "alignment" was neutralized his backstory wasn't? Just pointing out that some players might play him as his backstory dictates rather than his 'official' PFS alignment. I was honestly expecting a different Magus pregen iconic for Society play.

Dark Archive 1/5

To be fair, neither was Meligaster's, and he's far worse than Seltyiel. ^_^

Silver Crusade 4/5

Alain appears to be showing off with Outflank as his 1st level teamwork feat :D

I suppose it is possible that Seltyiel was given spellstrike at first level to introduce that mechanic, given that it's quite iconic to the class.

Liberty's Edge

Got the new pregens. Thank you very much!

Sovereign Court 5/5 *

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

How does Alain meet the prereqs for Outflank at level 1? (Base Attack +4)

"At 1st level, a cavalier receives a teamwork feat as a bonus feat. He must meet the prerequisites for this feat. "

I was hopeful when I read that Alain had Outflank at 1st that I had missed something with Tactician, but it appears I have not.


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Ietsuna wrote:
I have a question about the Magus pregen Seltyiel. His level 1 sheet has him having spellstrike, which is a level 2 ability. I am still new to Pathfinder so am wondering how this works.

You are correct that he does not have Spellstrike at 1st level. The confusion regarding Spell Combat and Spellstrike seems endless.

Liberty's Edge 2/5

Gisher wrote:
Ietsuna wrote:
I have a question about the Magus pregen Seltyiel. His level 1 sheet has him having spellstrike, which is a level 2 ability. I am still new to Pathfinder so am wondering how this works.
You are correct that he does not have Spellstrike at 1st level. The confusion regarding Spell Combat and Spellstrike seems endless.

Where is the confusion? His pre-gen character sheet has both spell combat and spellstrike on it.

Silver Crusade

Ietsuna wrote:
Gisher wrote:
Ietsuna wrote:
I have a question about the Magus pregen Seltyiel. His level 1 sheet has him having spellstrike, which is a level 2 ability. I am still new to Pathfinder so am wondering how this works.
You are correct that he does not have Spellstrike at 1st level. The confusion regarding Spell Combat and Spellstrike seems endless.
Where is the confusion? His pre-gen character sheet has both spell combat and spellstrike on it.


Ietsuna wrote:
Gisher wrote:
Ietsuna wrote:
I have a question about the Magus pregen Seltyiel. His level 1 sheet has him having spellstrike, which is a level 2 ability. I am still new to Pathfinder so am wondering how this works.
You are correct that he does not have Spellstrike at 1st level. The confusion regarding Spell Combat and Spellstrike seems endless.
Where is the confusion? His pre-gen character sheet has both spell combat and spellstrike on it.

I think I was unclear. You are correct that Spelkstrike doesn't belong on the 1st level build. I was saying that whoever wrote the character sheets was confused and listed it as if it was a 1st level ability. Confusion about those two abilities is very common. In this case, I suppose it could just be that they worked down from the higher levels and forgot to remove that section.

Dark Archive 3/5 5/5

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Kigvan wrote:

How does Alain meet the prereqs for Outflank at level 1? (Base Attack +4)

"At 1st level, a cavalier receives a teamwork feat as a bonus feat. He must meet the prerequisites for this feat. "

I was hopeful when I read that Alain had Outflank at 1st that I had missed something with Tactician, but it appears I have not.

The Pregens don't always play by the same rules. A couple characters of 3/4 BAB classes begin with Weapon Focus at level 1. The Magus gets his second level class feature at the start. Yoon is a statistical anomaly.

On a side note, I LOVE the fact that the Summoner pregen has properly Augmented summon monster stats on his sheet. Whoever thought of that is my hero. It's also pretty great that you can go Summon Monster or Eidolon whenever you play him.

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

Am I correct in assuming there were no changes to any of the pre-existing pregens?

3/5

Lau Bannenberg wrote:
Am I correct in assuming there were no changes to any of the pre-existing pregens?

Harsk is still the best pregen!

The Exchange 4/5 Owner - D20 Hobbies

xebeche wrote:
Nefreet wrote:

I couldn't kill anyone in BK3, either.

Stupid Tea Set.

Greater heroism lasts minutes per level. It may be harsh, but that's how long that effect lasts at my table.

Perfectly valid interpretation.

The other valid interpretation is those other effects are riders on the first one.

How do you rule Heroe's Feast? Do the usually lower duration effects last the full 12 hours at your table or the shorter 1 min per level?

Grand Lodge 4/5

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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

I don't see anyway to make that a valid interpretation. It doesn't grant heroes feast. It grants a +4 bonus on certain saves for 12 hours. It then says you get the effects of heroism and the like. But since it doesn't give a duration you default to the spell as normal using the caster level of the item.

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