Brie Larson is Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel!!


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The Brood don't strike me as that interesting if you've already seen all the attempts to get Aliens franchise redone...

But in terms of who she could fight...maybe not Deathbird, but perhaps Gladiator perhaps?

If Rogue DOES steal her powers...I wouldn't mind it in the sense it doesn't erase Carol as much as the whole Rogue incident did...

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Is she signed for five MORE movies, or does that count the two she has already been in?

If she only has 3 movies left, my guess is Capt Marvel 2 and 3, plus an Avengers film.

If she does have 5 left, then that plus A-Force and a "wild" showing up in someone else's film (the way Tony had a role in Homecoming).

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Pretty sure RDJ in Spidermand Homecoming was separate from his main Marvel contract, and was negotiated as an additional movie for him.


I kind of expect Marvel is going to let the X-Men sit on the shelf for a while - let that franchise cool down before an eventual reboot. The brood are also super-derivative of Alien, so I don't expect them to do that.

Kree-Skrull war is starting to sound like it has potential. Not just because of their presence in the Captain Marvel movie, but also because of the latest post-credits scene in Spider-Man: Far from Home.

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JoelF847 wrote:
Pretty sure RDJ in Spidermand Homecoming was separate from his main Marvel contract, and was negotiated as an additional movie for him.

For f+&!'s sake, nitpick much? What I meant was that kind of role. Which I thought was fairly clear from the context.

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Okay. The tone was uncalled for and I'm sorry.

But I get tired at being thrown out of context and nitpicked on every little thing in these kind of threads. I was looking forward to seeing theories rather than see people throw down with "you're wrong!" over something that technically wasn't wrong (usually just to show off some random piece of knowledge they have), and by doing so shut down the possibility of actually having a conversation.

I know I have done it too, but I learned it from you, Dad! I learned it by watching you! [Note: this is a random old commercial reference and is not targeted toward anyone in particular.]

Regardless, I failed to sound civil and for that I apologize.


DeathQuaker wrote:

Okay. The tone was uncalled for and I'm sorry.

But I get tired at being thrown out of context and nitpicked on every little thing in these kind of threads. I was looking forward to seeing theories rather than see people throw down with "you're wrong!" over something that technically wasn't wrong (usually just to show off some random piece of knowledge they have), and by doing so shut down the possibility of actually having a conversation.

I know I have done it too, but I learned it from you, Dad! I learned it by watching you! [Note: this is a random old commercial reference and is not targeted toward anyone in particular.]

Regardless, I failed to sound civil and for that I apologize.

That commercial rings a bell but I can't quite place it.


This anti-drug PSA. Dad finds his son's stash, wants to know where the kid learned about getting high.


Probably one of my 10 most quoted lines in my life.

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DeathQuaker wrote:

Okay. The tone was uncalled for and I'm sorry.

But I get tired at being thrown out of context and nitpicked on every little thing in these kind of threads. I was looking forward to seeing theories rather than see people throw down with "you're wrong!" over something that technically wasn't wrong (usually just to show off some random piece of knowledge they have), and by doing so shut down the possibility of actually having a conversation.

I know I have done it too, but I learned it from you, Dad! I learned it by watching you! [Note: this is a random old commercial reference and is not targeted toward anyone in particular.]

Regardless, I failed to sound civil and for that I apologize.

Sorry that upset you but it wasn't done as a nitpick, but instead pointing out that if Captain Marvel shows up in a major role in someone else's movie, it wouldn't necessarily need to be related to Brie Larson's current contract, but could be an additional movie to what her contract stipulates (which presumably Marvel Studios has some high level idea of what all her appearances will be already).


Ah yeah the War on drugs that encouraged drug use era. Late 80's to early 90's so that fits with the Cpt. Marvel time line. Nice.


DeathQuaker wrote:

Okay. The tone was uncalled for and I'm sorry.

But I get tired at being thrown out of context and nitpicked on every little thing in these kind of threads. I was looking forward to seeing theories rather than see people throw down with "you're wrong!" over something that technically wasn't wrong (usually just to show off some random piece of knowledge they have), and by doing so shut down the possibility of actually having a conversation.

I know I have done it too, but I learned it from you, Dad! I learned it by watching you! [Note: this is a random old commercial reference and is not targeted toward anyone in particular.]

Regardless, I failed to sound civil and for that I apologize.

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Kree-Skrull war is starting to sound like it has potential. Not just because of their presence in the Captain Marvel movie, but also because of the latest post-credits scene in Spider-Man: Far from Home.

You probably should have spoiler-tagged that ..


Even if she only has five films, as long as she enjoys making them and Marvel is willing to show up with a dump truck full of Money, she could always show up in more.

Chris Hemsworth contract is completed now, but he seems very open to returning for at least another movie.


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I want my Thor to reforge Mjolnir just like he did in the comics! Using a storm that eats planets, a Sun and just raining down fire and water to help forge it back again.


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I'd settle for some- ANY- of Thor's character development actually sticking instead of being handwaved away by whichever director gets their hands on him next.

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I very much prefer Thor as the dramatic, serious, almost Shakespearean figure in the earlier films. This new, comedic, light-hearted, almost goofy Thor really gets under my skin.

I get the Hemsworth is a funny guy, but I don’t like Thor as a funny guy.

I know Ragnarok did well, but I hate what it did to the character of Thor. It almost feels like two different characters ...


Marc Radle wrote:

I very much prefer Thor as the dramatic, serious, almost Shakespearean figure in the earlier films. This new, comedic, light-hearted, almost goofy Thor really gets under my skin.

I get the Hemsworth is a funny guy, but I don’t like Thor as a funny guy.

I know Ragnarok did well, but I hate what it did to the character of Thor. It almost feels like two different characters ...

I agree.

I didn't like what happened with Thor.

I could live with it if I felt it was the midpoint of a character arc and he was going to recover, but at this point it doesn't feel like it. He's played as funny and mostly as the butt of the joke, not the joker.

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thejeff wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:

I very much prefer Thor as the dramatic, serious, almost Shakespearean figure in the earlier films. This new, comedic, light-hearted, almost goofy Thor really gets under my skin.

I get the Hemsworth is a funny guy, but I don’t like Thor as a funny guy.

I know Ragnarok did well, but I hate what it did to the character of Thor. It almost feels like two different characters ...

I agree.

I didn't like what happened with Thor.

I could live with it if I felt it was the midpoint of a character arc and he was going to recover, but at this point it doesn't feel like it. He's played as funny and mostly as the butt of the joke, not the joker.

Thread is drifting … :p

That said, if you've read Shakespeare, you know that he has written several comedies. (That said, the characters in these plays do not intend to be silly or goofy - situations just spiral out of control.)


Lord Fyre,

We can only do so much with Carol Danvers without involving either the X-men, the Brood, or her alcoholism. Unless there's something else.

Ragnarok was decent, but honestly it could have been done with some funny and some more drama... especially since I felt the script was kind of like in two parts...


I don't know... Thor in the movies was always pretty funny. He had some serious arcs and all but then he'd get tasered by the intern and have someone back over him with the van... Smashing the mug on the ground demanding 'another... Going to a pet shop for a 'horse or something big enough to ride... I laughed most of the way through those movies, and yeah, a lot of it is because of Hemsworth natural talent for comedy.

I DO think that Ragnarok upped it up to much... but not as much as a lot of people do. I think if they had cut back on about 8-12% of the jokes it would have been perfect. Things like Thor throwing a ball at a wall and getting knocked down... that was too much. 'Get Help?'... I loved Get help :D


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I was actually fine with Ragnarok, since it was Thor outgrowing his father's expectations, so, hey, you know what, maybe he doesn't have to take things seriously... while also allowing the past to be destroyed to make way for a better future.

But Infinity War merrily binned all of that. Endgame goofed him up a bit, but frankly, at that point, the real damage was already done.

It remains to be seen where Marvel takes its various cosmic things next, but, I gotta say...

Drax got turned into a joke within the franchise he's a part of.

Quill's character growth was largely binned for his brief stint in Avengers-land.

Gamora's character arc, her personal growth, all of that? Yeah, it's been reset because a wizard did it, and the Gamora we all got to know died, and we're now dealing with a time-displaced earlier version.

Thor's woes have been covered.

Track record's pretty damn uneven.

Hopefully, Danvers gets to draw from the Nebula/Rocket end of things, rather than a Thor-esque "eh, what're we doing now?"


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I actually didn't mind Thor in Infinity War - there were a few moments, but overall his arc there was okay. Endgame was bad. Maybe they can recover with him off with the Guardians, but signs aren't hopeful.

And yeah, while the Gamora death was decent and arguably necessary, I'm not at all sold on dealing with the time-displaced one.


yeah. Gamora should have just stayed dead and found a different direction to Guardians. It was a decent death that stabbed at our cores... but at the same time, her story was told. Thanos is gone, she's made up with her sister and she's romantic with Quill... Killing her off was fine with me.

Erasing it all just so we can inevitably go back to 'Quill needs to prove he's awesome to Gamora' is going to be tired quickly. Honestly I've found most of the Guardians to have diminishing returns. They were awesome and unexpected... unlike anything we'd seen in the first one... the jokes were a bit forced in the second... by Infinity War it was just a kind of dull. Quill = dumb mistakes. Drax = dumb. Rocket = talking raccoon... Gamora = Sexy warrior. When they ran into trouble with Gunn and the 3rd one was put on hold... I was fine with it. They could have ended that franchise with 2 movies + infinity war and been fine. Moved on to Nova or X-Men or some of the other bazillion properties they have.

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phantom1592 wrote:
yeah. Gamora should have just stayed dead and found a different direction to Guardians. It was a decent death that stabbed at our cores... but at the same time, her story was told. Thanos is gone, she's made up with her sister and she's romantic with Quill... Killing her off was fine with me.

I do find it somewhat alarming that the most prominent female heroes (Black Widow and Gamora) in the MCU were killed off. :(


I like funny thor. Because if you make him serious, bad movies happen.


Freehold,

No that's only if you keep giving parts to Christopher Eccleston that isn't the Doctor.


Its kind of my worry with Drax too. He is just comedy relief now no more serious they killed my family I want revenge Drax. It really depends if they can still have those serious moment with the characters. I think Thor has demonstrated he can still do serious well. For example Storm breaker in Thanos's chest serious. I had no problem taking him serious.

I do like that marvel has a sense of humor for most of their stuff. I think that is my problem with Cloak and dagger right now is its way too serious to the point of depressing me to watch it.

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Lord Fyre wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
yeah. Gamora should have just stayed dead and found a different direction to Guardians. It was a decent death that stabbed at our cores... but at the same time, her story was told. Thanos is gone, she's made up with her sister and she's romantic with Quill... Killing her off was fine with me.
I do find it somewhat alarming that the most prominent female heroes (Black Widow and Gamora) in the MCU were killed off. :(

It pissed me off first that they got as much play as they did, when longer-running Avengers like Wanda and Janet got introduced later (or as someone's mom), or not at all (like She-Hulk, Tigra or Photon/Spectrum) but now it annoys me even more that they got sent off the way they did (particularly that it was the exact same story, in two different movies, that 'coincidentally' nuked off the original leading ladies of both the Avengers and the Guardians).

I'm pretty ornery that way. I complained that they used Black Widow and Gamora over Wanda, Janet, Nikki, Aleta or Moondragon (characters with actual super-powers over 'badass'), and then complained yet again when they killed them off. :)

That those two characters were as important to their respective teams as they were (seriously, who else among the Guardians is even remotely a good person? Gamora spent half her time trying to talk the others into helping, even having to argue for them to respond to the Asgardian distress call! And Natasha, in a world post-Captain America and Iron Man, is literally the leader of the Avengers (and was shown coordinating the world's heroes!) just makes it seem even more egregiously bad of an idea, not just on a 'they fridged the women!' note.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Freehold,

No that's only if you keep giving parts to Christopher Eccleston that isn't the Doctor.

...I...see...

lights candle at shrine for the only doctor he likes


I've liked all the new doctors to an extent. I feel way way off topic saying that except that we may get one of the doctors as a villain in a sequel. *crosses fingers for Matt Smith*

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Huh! Apparently, Lashana Lynch is British. I had not known that. She did a great job of sounding American.


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Aberzombie wrote:
Huh! Apparently, Lashana Lynch is British. I had not known that. She did a great job of sounding American.

I like to shorten this to "Lashana Lynch did a great job." ;)


I approve of Cole's usage and yes she is.

Also I have been known to be wrong some times Freehold...but I hold to this one since I like serious Thor. :p


I am going to get a looooooot of mileage out of Lashana.


Lord Fyre wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
yeah. Gamora should have just stayed dead and found a different direction to Guardians. It was a decent death that stabbed at our cores... but at the same time, her story was told. Thanos is gone, she's made up with her sister and she's romantic with Quill... Killing her off was fine with me.
I do find it somewhat alarming that the most prominent female heroes (Black Widow and Gamora) in the MCU were killed off. :(

Rumour is that the Black Widow movie is not a prequel and if that is true I think they will just use how she came back after the Secret Empire comic crossover.

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lowfyr01 wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
yeah. Gamora should have just stayed dead and found a different direction to Guardians. It was a decent death that stabbed at our cores... but at the same time, her story was told. Thanos is gone, she's made up with her sister and she's romantic with Quill... Killing her off was fine with me.
I do find it somewhat alarming that the most prominent female heroes (Black Widow and Gamora) in the MCU were killed off. :(
Rumour is that the Black Widow movie is not a prequel and if that is true I think they will just use how she came back after the Secret Empire comic crossover.

Or … that there is another universe inside the Soul Stone.


My suspicion is that it will take place in that 5 year post snap period.

I'd also make a guess that they may be using this to introduce a "new" Black Widow in Florence Pugh


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Wasn't their another character who went by black widow? could it be a second person to bear the name? eh who am I kidding resurrecting characters is what comics and religion has in common.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
Wasn't their another character who went by black widow? could it be a second person to bear the name? eh who am I kidding resurrecting characters is what comics and religion has in common.

there was at least one other Black Widow.


The second Black Widow was Yelena Bolova. She didn't originally get along with Natasha, seeing herself as Nat's replacement.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Freehold,

No that's only if you keep giving parts to Christopher Eccleston that isn't the Doctor.

...I...see...

lights candle at shrine for the only doctor he likes

Eccleston is a fine actor. The Dark World suffered from s$+&ty writing and editing.

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Fabius Maximus wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:

Freehold,

No that's only if you keep giving parts to Christopher Eccleston that isn't the Doctor.

...I...see...

lights candle at shrine for the only doctor he likes

Eccleston is a fine actor. The Dark World suffered from s&!@ty writing and editing.

The world we live in has become a Dark World.


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Would you call it the darkest timeline?

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Would you call it the darkest timeline?

Ask me in November of 2020.


Lord Fyre wrote:


I do find it somewhat alarming that the most prominent female heroes (Black Widow and Gamora) in the MCU were killed off. :(

I see it as a non-issue when they also took Iron Man, Vision and Captain America off the board at the same time. and I feel like I'm missing someone else too... IW was a blood bath and Endgame had the 'final fates' of a bunch of characters... not just the ladies.


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phantom1592 wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:


I do find it somewhat alarming that the most prominent female heroes (Black Widow and Gamora) in the MCU were killed off. :(
I see it as a non-issue when they also took Iron Man, Vision and Captain America off the board at the same time. and I feel like I'm missing someone else too... IW was a blood bath and Endgame had the 'final fates' of a bunch of characters... not just the ladies.

Eh...

Vision died in the previous movie along with half of the universe, saying his (terrible awful, god what a lame romance plot) parting line to Wanda, then got rewound and killed by a Thanos who was ROFLstomping everybody.

Cap and Iron Man both got their sendoffs at the end of the film after each of them has gotten to stomp face in an epic fashion.

Widow... dies what feels like half an hour into the movie (I know it's longer than that, but bear with me) after having chaired a conference call and gone to get Hawkeye.

Gamora... got killed because the Soul Stone doesn't actually understand love and gave Thanos a pass, and then got ziplined back because the Endgame script was written with plot points stuck to the wall and darts being thrown at them.

Far as I recall, that was it for heroic sendoffs.

And two of these things are not like the others.

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