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So let's kick the thread off with this awesome poster
I'm loving it. They added color!
Nobody tell Snyder.

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Oh, I agree, she's just used to the aesthetic that the cartoons (and her undies, which are old comics images) have. The more muted reds, blues, and golds of the Snyderverse just didn't make the instant pop in her mind between the armored girl and Wonder Woman. I think Gadot is a real winner in the casting.

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A good or great WW film will hopefully ensure Marvel steps up their game for Captain Marvel.
Edit: There's still time at this Comic Con for them to announce Captain Marvel details, like casting.
Well so far they've talked about Black Panther, Doctor Strange and Thor Ragnarock. Still no mention of Captain Marvel...

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Yep. Which means in a fight, Wonder Woman would probably beat up Superman. ;)
Depends on which and which. If it's against Boy Scout Superman, he'll lose because his instinct to hold back, whereas Diana WILL kill if motivated enough.
If it's Nasty Evil Superman, the outcome is more in doubt.

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I just watched that trailer. Wow. I always felt that a Wonder Woman movie ought to take place during World War 2, and ought to have Steve Trevor. And judging from the trailer, it looks like this movie got the right feel.
Still, how can anyone not wince at that clumsy, awkward dialogue?
"You're a man."
"<long pause> Yeah. <long pause> I mean... <long pause> ...don't I look like one?"
...or...
"I was brought to life by Zeus."
"<long pause> Well that's neat."

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I just watched that trailer. Wow. I always felt that a Wonder Woman movie ought to take place during World War 2, and ought to have Steve Trevor. And judging from the trailer, it looks like this movie got the right feel.
The trailer was quite good, and the old-school call-back to Steve Trevor and Etta Candy was nice touch. I do have to say I am curious on why the apparent World War I scenario instead of WW2?
World War II idea being maybe too cliché and maybe to avoid Nazi references? Plus treading the Captain America line a little too much there was something they wanted to avoid.

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If someone is attempting to portray the 'War is Hell' aspect and then show that Diana is decidedly *beyond* such a flimsy comparison, the First World War is actually the better of the two to make the story.
With the sheer insanity of all the things that were introduced during those battles, it's amazing there's a livable Europe left, tbh.
--First major use of chemical weapons
--First major impact of biological weapons (unintended)
--First major use of the machine gun
--First major use of tanks
--First major use of planes
--First major use of telegraph/telephone
Those are the ones that are off the top of my head, I'm sure there are a lot more.
To take all that and then have Diana there and be... "And for all of your advancements, for all of your supposed greatness... you're still just mortal men." would really drive the point home.

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I just watched that trailer. Wow. I always felt that a Wonder Woman movie ought to take place during World War 2, and ought to have Steve Trevor. And judging from the trailer, it looks like this movie got the right feel.
Still, how can anyone not wince at that clumsy, awkward dialogue?
Quote:"You're a man."
"<long pause> Yeah. <long pause> I mean... <long pause> ...don't I look like one?"
...or...
Quote:"I was brought to life by Zeus."
"<long pause> Well that's neat."
Gee, I wonder what reason Chris Pine might have for inserting awkward pauses into his acting.
On a completely unrelated note....what role is he playing in that new Star Trek movie?

Drahliana Moonrunner |

Plus it's ridiculous for an amazon not to have actual weapons.
Aside from the name, there's very little resemblance between the Amazons of DC/Sensation! Comics and the Amazons of Greek myth which were set up to be monsters from the Greek point of view. (The Greeks thinking that misogyny was the proper sign of a right thinking and intellectually developed man.)
Wonder Woman didn't need weapons because her main weapons were Truth, as represented by her lasso, and her own speed and discipline. They've seem to have ditched her bullet deflecting bracers to make her a Captain America knockoff with her shield.
The times when Diana used arms and armor in her adventures mark special departures for the character especially when she makes war on the Olympian Pantheon herself.
The other thing that threw me for a loop was the line. "I was given life by Zeus" when originally it was the female Olympians who are responsible for both the empowerment of the Amazons and the creation of Diana herself. With this change, Diana becomes yet another of Zeus' bastard children, even if somewhat less direct than intervention as a shower of gold.

Pecan Sandie Duncan |
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Aaron Bitman wrote:Still, how can anyone not wince at that clumsy, awkward dialogue?Gee, I wonder what reason Chris Pine might have for inserting awkward pauses into his acting.
On a completely unrelated note....what role is he playing in that new Star Trek movie?
Who would have guessed an actor named Pine would have a wooden delivery? I wonder if he gets needled for it?

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The times when Diana used arms and armor in her adventures mark special departures for the character especially when she makes war on the Olympian Pantheon herself.
It's something the character has kept returning to ever since Kingdom Come proved such a hit.
You can correctly argue that it was intended there as a sign of just how out of control the situation had gotten (and Diana's use of the sword had immediate and fatal consequences for ol' Von Bach), but in the arena of fictional characters, the Rule of Cool has subsequently led to plenty of cover art featuring Diana with a sword in hand- particularly in her most recent series from DC.
The other thing that threw me for a loop was the line. "I was given life by Zeus" when originally it was the female Olympians who are responsible for both the empowerment of the Amazons and the creation of Diana herself. With this change, Diana becomes yet another of Zeus' bastard children, even if somewhat less direct than intervention as a shower of gold.
She has had three distinct origins to date in the comics, and for a movie trailer aimed at a mass audience, Zeus is a name more people are likely to have kneejerk recognition of than, say, Hera, Demeter, Artemis, Persephone, Hestia, or Aphrodite. I suppose she could have said "the gods," but, eh.

Drahliana Moonrunner |

Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:The times when Diana used arms and armor in her adventures mark special departures for the character especially when she makes war on the Olympian Pantheon herself.It's something the character has kept returning to ever since Kingdom Come proved such a hit.
You can correctly argue that it was intended there as a sign of just how out of control the situation had gotten (and Diana's use of the sword had immediate and fatal consequences for ol' Von Bach), but in the arena of fictional characters, the Rule of Cool has subsequently led to plenty of cover art featuring Diana with a sword in hand- particularly in her most recent series from DC.
Quote:The other thing that threw me for a loop was the line. "I was given life by Zeus" when originally it was the female Olympians who are responsible for both the empowerment of the Amazons and the creation of Diana herself. With this change, Diana becomes yet another of Zeus' bastard children, even if somewhat less direct than intervention as a shower of gold.She has had three distinct origins to date in the comics, and for a movie trailer aimed at a mass audience, Zeus is a name more people are likely to have kneejerk recognition of than, say, Hera, Demeter, Artemis, Persephone, Hestia, or Aphrodite. I suppose she could have said "the gods," but, eh.
It's a major difference. In all of her previous retellings, Diana's origins have pretty much an exclusively female set of hands to them. Zeus is not just a "god", he's the patriarch of the Olympian Pantheon and pretty much the most prolific divine philanderer of just about any of the mythic pantheons.

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Haven't we already retconned the new 52? At least partially.
Is WW one of the bits that hasn't changed?
I think production started before that. The movies are their own continuity though, so I don't know how much that matters.
They could have used the Marsten's original origin or the post-Crisis goddesses one, but they went with the child of Zeus demigod one.

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thejeff wrote:Haven't we already retconned the new 52? At least partially.
Is WW one of the bits that hasn't changed?
I think production started before that. The movies are their own continuity though, so I don't know how much that matters.
They could have used the Marsten's original origin or the post-Crisis goddesses one, but they went with the child of Zeus demigod one.
Yeah, I was mostly just curious.

ravenharm |

ravenharm wrote:Not a fan. it should have been Gina Carano.She can't act.
fair enough, the present actress can't fight.
or look believable in a choreographed fight.or even pose as if she's a fighter, and she is depicting a fighter.
at least not without tons of CGI
and i'm a fan of tons of CGI.
i'm just going to say it again. not a fan. hope that film dies like fan4stic