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Knight who says Meh wrote:


I'm pretty sure that the internet said men weren't allowed to see this movie.

Hmm…

I've never let 'what the Internet said' stop me from doing what I wanted to do (or felt was the right thing to do), so I'll be going to watch Wonder Woman!

And who or 'what' I am (as defined by anyone other than myself) is absolutely irrelevant.

I'll be going to watch Wonder Woman!

*clears throat*

Carry on!

--C.

Wonder Woman! Woo! I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it… \(^o^)/

_________________________

EDIT: Added the relevant post to which mine is a response (for clarity).


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
There's no reason they have to be mutually exclusive, Delightful...

That's true. But I got a feeling that Wonder Woman can also own its success to being a DCEU film that recognizes that trying to be dark and gritty only works when you have smarts to back it up. From what I've heard Wonder Woman has opted to be a lighthearted action-adventure romp that leaves "realistic" superhero politics and tough moral quandaries to the wayside.

And thank Hera for that because seeing Snyder try to be introspective is like watching a drunk fratboy with delusions of grandeur try to recite Shakespeare.

Somehow I don't think that anything about WW1 should ever be light hearted.

Marvel was able to do with Captain America: The First Avenger so I can't see why Wonder Woman can't.

Also, since Superman is an emo edgelord in this series is Wonder Woman going to have to take the optimistic boy scout (I guess girl scout) Captain America role for the Justice League? Not sure how I feel about that.

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So I just saw Wonder Woman.

It is...

Good! Like, really good. Solid, well-made and entertaining superhero movie. Gal is great. Pine is great. Action is marvelous. Set piece moment in the trenches seen in trailers is great.

Spoiler:
Ares is kinda meh, but actor makes him work and I appreciate how they handled him. Danny Huston is a lot of fun as over the top Ludendorff. Doctor Poison is cool, but bit underused in my opinion.

This is right direction, DC. FOLLOW IT.


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Well if Ros liked it, it at least doesn't suck then.

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Delightful wrote:
Hama wrote:
Delightful wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
There's no reason they have to be mutually exclusive, Delightful...

That's true. But I got a feeling that Wonder Woman can also own its success to being a DCEU film that recognizes that trying to be dark and gritty only works when you have smarts to back it up. From what I've heard Wonder Woman has opted to be a lighthearted action-adventure romp that leaves "realistic" superhero politics and tough moral quandaries to the wayside.

And thank Hera for that because seeing Snyder try to be introspective is like watching a drunk fratboy with delusions of grandeur try to recite Shakespeare.

Somehow I don't think that anything about WW1 should ever be light hearted.

Marvel was able to do with Captain America: The First Avenger so I can't see why Wonder Woman can't.

Also, since Superman is an emo edgelord in this series is Wonder Woman going to have to take the optimistic boy scout (I guess girl scout) Captain America role for the Justice League? Not sure how I feel about that.

Yeah, she actually does have the Cap role if you think about it. The seasoned pro who's beeing in more fights that any of the others can imagine and knows deep down, one way or another, the good guys will win.

Batman is the Ironman role. Brilliant, unlimited resources, not good at connecting with people despite appearances, except for the mentor/ (jarvis) that quips about his poor decisions. Has a mission and a purpose that he believes in whole heartedly but is actually rather misguided and creates many of his own problems.

Superman's is the Thor role in reverse. Intead of a god learning what it is to be human (First Thor movie) Superman's lived as a human all along and is now figuring out how to be a god, while trying to keep that humanity.

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There is only one Robert Downey Junior.


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I saw WONDER WOMAN @an AMC Lincoln Center Screening last night. I took my mom with me and she had a blast. Gal Gadot, Chris Pine, Robin Wright and Patty Jenkins made an appearance to introduce the movie.

Overall, Gal Gadot and Chris Pine are the reason to see this movie. Gal as Diana is LUMINOUS and note perfect as to what I always imagined a live action Diana would be. She is the very definition of a compassionate (if not naive) warrior. She is a HERO who legitimately wants to help and steps up when almost no one else is willing to or able. She and Chris Pine play off of one another very well.

I know this is damning with faint praise but it's easily the best of the DCU movies. I still like Man of Steel but this is better at definitively presenting who Diana is as a person and as a HERO than Man of Steel was. You're actively rooting for Diana in this movie in a way that you don't in Man of Steel or the abysmal BvS.

I had my issues with several of the action sequences and the third act battle in general but overall it's a good movie.


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Action sequences be damned. If it makes Wonder Woman come to life, to be the hero she SHOULD be, and the woman she is, I'm all for it.

Best DCEU is a fine accomplishment.

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You're making me cautiously optimistic. I'll have to wait till 15th to see it though.


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Really great. Handled myth better than Thor, and handled war better than Captain America.

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QuidEst wrote:
Really great. Handled myth better than Thor, and handled war better than Captain America.

Though I must say:

Spoiler:
Killing off most of the greek gods was a big mistake in my opinion. Sure, it paints Diana's vistory over Ares as a even bigger triumph, but it robs the mythos of the character of really cool things.
Also, not a fan of whole Zeus giving her life instead of the goddesses but that is strictly nitpicking and personal preferences. And I guess they CAN bring the gods back and that could easily be a plot of a whole movie on it's own and now I'm thinking the sequel to Wonder Woman might be this.

Liberty's Edge

Saw it last night in 3D, 3D wasn't great not worth seeing it in 3D. Loved it great movie.

Was there a Lynda Carter cameo? I missed it if there was.


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The Mad Comrade wrote:
We can get our cross-dressing on. It'll be fine. ;)

{tries to imagine film with WonderGadot vs. Dr. Frank-N-Furter.... brain overloads}

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I like this comic


That...that was inspired. Thank you for bringing that to our attention Hama.

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Patty Jenkins to direct Wonder Woman sequel.

Gal Gadot also wants a lady love interest for (the canonically bi) Wonder Woman.


Planning to see Wonder Woman this week, presumably mid-week with Missus Mad Comrade. It takes Iron Will (Minotaur incarnation optional) to not open / click on various spoilers.

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Never minded spoilers myself. And I have to wait till 15th for the movie to come to my country :(


Hama,

I'm not sure I understand...but is that comic saying Dark Knight is terrible or just that good? Because if it's latter then that changes EVERYTHING!

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I guess it's saying it's good. I tend to disagree but then he has a right to think it is good.


Hama,

Okay then.


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I just got back from Wonderwoman. This is without a doubt the best DCEU movie. Too bad we have to go back to Zach Snyder for Justice League...

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MMCJawa wrote:
I just got back from Wonderwoman. This is without a doubt the best DCEU movie. Too bad we have to go back to Zach Snyder for Justice League...

Worse, we go to Whedon.


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Rysky wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
I just got back from Wonderwoman. This is without a doubt the best DCEU movie. Too bad we have to go back to Zach Snyder for Justice League...
Worse, we go to Whedon.

fans self

The things you say...


Saw it last night.

This is definitely a superhero film that caters to women. The action and romance was less testosterone based. Wife gasped at most scenes with amazons as she recognized ones from other cultures. Will get on bluray. Some of the action and dialogue at the end felt a bit rushed, however- would love to see any deleted scenes ot a directors cut. Some actors mumbled/muttered their lines a bit. I suspect some will complain at the race relations comments throughout the film, but it was only truly awkward/out of place in one scene, possibly due to editing. One character did not get a chance to do their "job", also possibly due to editing. I think I give it 4/5 stars.


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Rysky wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
I just got back from Wonderwoman. This is without a doubt the best DCEU movie. Too bad we have to go back to Zach Snyder for Justice League...
Worse, we go to Whedon.

Shut yo mouth! ;-)


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bugleyman wrote:
Rysky wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
I just got back from Wonderwoman. This is without a doubt the best DCEU movie. Too bad we have to go back to Zach Snyder for Justice League...
Worse, we go to Whedon.
Shut yo mouth! ;-)

ryskys just talkin' bout whedon. I can dig it.


But ... uuhh .. Whedon's stepping in to finish up JL1 on Snyder's behalf. So ... both lobes of brains 'splodin'?


Great, now we got SLJ in Justice League now?!

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Whedon is good.


Hama wrote:
Whedon is good.

no, he is not.

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Irrational hatred clouds your judgement.

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Yes he is. I liked Avengers.

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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
Yes he is. I liked Avengers.

Whedon starts out like a house on fire, brimming with cool ideas and snappy dialogue and great characters, and then gets bored and it all turns into a dumpster fire.

Avengers, awesome. Age of Ultron, a muddled mess.

Buffy early seasons? Awesome. Later seasons, disappointing.

Angel? Same thing. Starts out good, gets squirrely.

Firefly getting cancelled before Joss had time to get distracted by a new shiny thing was probably the best thing for it, because once his fickle heart moved on, it probably would have started to suck.

But I have no idea what level of involvement he's going to have in the Justice League movie. It might have been mostly in the can, and his influence on it could be barely noticeable. He might change the entire tone of the film. It could be better for his intervention. It could be a mess, torn between two tonally inconsistent treatments. It could be a terrible disappointment that he couldn't save, just push out the door and end up sharing the blame for when it hits the pavement like something that fell steaming from the backside of a parade horse. Who knows.

All I know is that Marvel has to up it's game with their plans for movies like Black Panther and Captain Marvel, because DC seems to have figured it out, and is now coming out swinging, Amazon princess in the lead. Good for them!


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A house fire is good and a dumpster fire is bad?


Set wrote:


All I know is that Marvel has to up it's game with their plans for movies like Black Panther and Captain Marvel, because DC seems to have figured it out, and is now coming out swinging, Amazon princess in the lead. Good for them!

I think i will wait for the next DC movies before i would say that. The sad thing is the movie i am most optimistic about is Batgirl. Flash for example i would be happy if they got a director and not loose him again.

And if Wonder Woman manages to get Warner away from the dark and gritty then I thinks that is great.

Just two weeks till I can watch the movie. But reading here it will be worth it^^

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A little treat for the weapons geeks like me

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Knight who says Meh wrote:
A house fire is good and a dumpster fire is bad?

English, especially American English, is a mess. Our metaphors make absolutely no sense.

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Knight who says Meh wrote:
A house fire is good and a dumpster fire is bad?

A house fire is bad, a house on fire is good. I don't even understand what I'm saying right now.


Warning - Spoilers ahead!!!

Wonder Woman - Extended Featurette (2017)


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Wonder Woman's Wrath - Music / Theme | Wonder Woman (2017) - just music.


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Set wrote:


All I know is that Marvel has to up it's game with their plans for movies like Black Panther and Captain Marvel, because DC seems to have figured it out, and is now coming out swinging, Amazon princess in the lead. Good for them!

I think it's too early to tell if the MCU actually needs to step up its game. Until recently, DCEU has been wanting to go for a "director driven" shared universe, which uh...doesn't really work well. You need a master plan if you are going to do a shared universe, otherwise it becomes chaos. If Director one really hates a character or has a weird interpretation, he can get away with messing up the character, which puts Director two in a bind if he likes that character and wants to do more with him. It also means there is very much a reduction in quality control: Get a good director and your fine (e.g. Patty Jenkins), but an inexperienced or misguided director? potentially your movie sucks. Yeah...the MCU is pretty conservative in its films, all mostly being variations on a theme, but at least they occupy a narrow window of quality, with the best being awesome and the worst (IMHO of course) being just okay.

It sounds like DC might be learning the above lesson? Apparently Geoff Johns is taking on a Fiege-like role, and Wonderwoman was the first movie he has had an influence on. So maybe going forward things will improve, but at the least the next DCEU movie is going to be another Synder affair, which doesn't make me feel encouraged.


Hama wrote:
Irrational hatred clouds your judgement.

and irrational fanboyism clouds yours.


Mark Thomas 66 wrote:

Yes he is. I liked Avengers.

Binge drinking Haterade like it's going out of style.

Haterade NEVER goes out of style.


Set wrote:
Knight who says Meh wrote:
A house fire is good and a dumpster fire is bad?

A house fire is bad, a house on fire is good. I don't even understand what I'm saying right now.

A house fire, a dumpster fire, a house on fire, a Whedon on fire... it's all good. Torch 'em if ya got 'em.


Three words; Seth Green, Robin.


The Whedonverse wrote:
Three words; Seth Green, Robin.

Two actual words:

Which one?
;p

On topic: Wonder Woman was WAY-awesome!

Wouldn't go as far to say that it was the best superhero movie, but certainly the best DC non-animated superhero movie - for me. So far…

Carry on!

--C.

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Marvel doesn't really have to step up their game at all. Their arguably least good films are still way way better than Man of Steel or BvS. I will reserve my judgement on WW till I see it, but I bet it will be somewhere along the line of middle on Marvel.

Freehold DM wrote:
Hama wrote:
Irrational hatred clouds your judgement.
and irrational fanboyism clouds yours.

We talked about this already. I'm not an irrational fanboy. I accept he did sub-par stuff. But he also did awesome stuff, Set explained it best above. I don't get why you hate him so much though.


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Wonder Woman is on track to gross more than $100M in the U.S. and is over $220M globally for opening weekend.

Awesome.

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