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Rysky wrote:
Doctor Poison I believe.

An oldie but a goodie.

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Cool!

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Anybody know who the villain is?

Judging by the action figures I saw in target, Ares


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Doctor Poison gets name-dropped in the trailer, but Ares as an intended late-game surprise spoiled by a friggin' toy tie-in wouldn't be too out of left field, given the WWI context.


I think Doctor Poison is kind of the secondary villain to Ares, who wants kill humans.

Also no guarantees in my mind that she is Zeus' Daughter. It seems she might be more like "Zeus gave her life but not fathered her."


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Alamo Drafthouses are/were (not sure of the timing) booking women-exclusive screenings of the film. They're catching some flak for it, but their social media staff is smacking them around for being nose goblins about it.

Personally, since the local Alamo's screening is scheduled for one of my wife's days off, I'm hoping she'll go with some friends and have a good time.

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Alamo Drafthouses are/were (not sure of the timing) booking women-exclusive screenings of the film. They're catching some flak for it, but their social media staff is smacking them around for being nose goblins about it.

Personally, since the local Alamo's screening is scheduled for one of my wife's days off, I'm hoping she'll go with some friends and have a good time.

Awesome.

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Yeah, the Alamo folk had some pretty great replies there.

"There has been some concern over the women-exclusive screenings of Wonder Woman. We hear you. We are now selling tickets to another such screening."

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Rosgakori wrote:

Yeah, the Alamo folk had some pretty great replies there.

"There has been some concern over the women-exclusive screenings of Wonder Woman. We hear you. We are now selling tickets to another such screening."

Nice! I always love the "we will f*++ing increase the f+~*ing thing" style replies.


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Rosgakori wrote:

Yeah, the Alamo folk had some pretty great replies there.

"There has been some concern over the women-exclusive screenings of Wonder Woman. We hear you. We are now selling tickets to another such screening."

This is the most beautiful thing I've seen all day.


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As a private business, the Alamo Drafthouse should be able to do that. It should be able to do the opposite, too. Since I am not a patron, or potential patron, of theirs (I don't live anywhere near their theatres), I can neither reward nor punish them in anyway for those actions, nor should I be able to.

As for the movie, DCEU films have proven to be, thus far, far from "must-sees." If this movie proves otherwise, I'll be happily surprised and buying a ticket.


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Kahnya,

It's proven I want to see more Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. So there's certainly that.


The Alamo thing is funny, but lets face it, An All Women showing is common sense publicity stunt for this film. I'm surprised anyone has a problem with it.

That said a "Main Man's, Men's only" showing of the Lobo movie also makes perfect sense.

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The Alamo thing is funny, but lets face it, An All Women showing is common sense publicity stunt for this film. I'm surprised anyone has a problem with it.

That said a "Main Man's, Men's only" showing of the Lobo movie also makes perfect sense.

All of the proceeds for the All Women Screenings are going to Planned Parenthood.


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Rysky wrote:
Greylurker wrote:

The Alamo thing is funny, but lets face it, An All Women showing is common sense publicity stunt for this film. I'm surprised anyone has a problem with it.

That said a "Main Man's, Men's only" showing of the Lobo movie also makes perfect sense.

All of the proceeds for the All Women Screenings are going to Planned Parenthood.

That's a good cause and all the more reason why being an ass about it makes no sense to me. Those guys making a fuss should be ashamed of themselves.

I suppose a Main Man showing of Lobo could go to prostate cancer.


Grey,

That or for brain cancer...because clearly the men that are screaming about have some kind of tumor or brain deficiency...


I just read that an NYC statute forbids what the Alamo Drafthouse is doing (it even forbids advertising such a thing) under its anti-discrimination law. (an Alamo Drafthouse is having such a showing in Brooklyn) Now, I reiterate that I think it should be able to do this (and, again, I think they should be able to do the opposite as well), and I disagree with that law, but the event IS in violation of the law.

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It's happening anyway and we won't enforce the law, watch.

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Well they would be labeled sexist now wouldn't they.

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People complaining about this really don't get it. Honestly it's the same frame of mind as the people who ask why there isn't a White History month.

Because pretty much every month in America is.

Women have been left out of so much since the day this country was founded. A movie comes out about the original female empowerment icon, there's a few selected screenings for women to come together in solidarity to support a cause that closed minded men decided women don't need.....without their input.....and they can't even have that.

So disappointing.

All the whiners need to "Man up"

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I have no problem with it, Ladies only gyms where women can go practice without being ogled are a great thing. I myself am guilty of this on occasion. Because my gym has "cleverly" placed running belts, just behind the space where women do pilates. My eyes have strayed on occasion, since then I made sure to work out when there are is pilates training in progress.

All the whiners need to shut the hell up.


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I have no problem with it, Ladies only gyms where women can go practice without being ogled are a great thing. I myself am guilty of this on occasion. Because my gym has "cleverly" placed running belts, just behind the space where women do pilates. My eyes have strayed on occasion, since then I made sure to work out when there are is pilates training in progress.

All the whiners need to shut the hell up.

..?

This is pilates, not cabaret.

Im all for women only showings of wonder woman, I was going to pay for my wife's ticket so she could go on her own with her friends(all women) but the tables have turned so now I'm going with my wife her friends my best friend and his wife (whose tickets are on me) and one friend who is doing a wonder woman cosplay.

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Yeah point is that they are mostly very attractive, wear tight, form fitting clothing and well, do pilates. It is still not polite to stare, and I have, on occasion.


Hama wrote:
Yeah point is that they are mostly very attractive, wear tight, form fitting clothing and well, do pilates. It is still not polite to stare, and I have, on occasion.

I guess. I have no problem staring, but I try not to gawk.

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I could see that some of them were pretty uncomfortable. I don't like making people uncomfortable.


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Anyways, let the women have their hero. I'm all for it.


So far looks good. Waiting two weeks till it starts here will be hard^^

And i just read an article about people saying that Wonder Woman can't be a role model because her outfit is too revealing. She is wearing something that is less revealing than some stuff worn on the street.

What's next measuring skirt length?


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WW premiers on Friday here. It will probably be the first film in ages I will bother to catch on the opening weekend. That and Valerian.


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I just hope the movie has the same bondage themes as the original comic.


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I just hope the movie has the same bondage themes as the original comic.

Yeah the origins of the Wonder Woman comic/character are... interesting to say the least.


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Spastic Puma wrote:
Knight who says Meh wrote:
I just hope the movie has the same bondage themes as the original comic.
Yeah the origins of the Wonder Woman comic/character are... interesting to say the least.

Superhero films definitely needs more positive BDSM representation. Hopefully Wonder Women delivers on that front as well.

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Hehehe


Rysky wrote:
Hehehe

Mostly just tells me that DC has a bad track record when it comes to making good films.

Until now anyway.


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There's no reason they have to be mutually exclusive, Delightful...


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There's no reason they have to be mutually exclusive, Delightful...

That's true. But I got a feeling that Wonder Woman can also own its success to being a DCEU film that recognizes that trying to be dark and gritty only works when you have smarts to back it up. From what I've heard Wonder Woman has opted to be a lighthearted action-adventure romp that leaves "realistic" superhero politics and tough moral quandaries to the wayside.

And thank Hera for that because seeing Snyder try to be introspective is like watching a drunk fratboy with delusions of grandeur try to recite Shakespeare.

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Delightful wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
There's no reason they have to be mutually exclusive, Delightful...

That's true. But I got a feeling that Wonder Woman can also own its success to being a DCEU film that recognizes that trying to be dark and gritty only works when you have smarts to back it up. From what I've heard Wonder Woman has opted to be a lighthearted action-adventure romp that leaves "realistic" superhero politics and tough moral quandaries to the wayside.

And thank Hera for that because seeing Snyder try to be introspective is like watching a drunk fratboy with delusions of grandeur try to recite Shakespeare.

Somehow I don't think that anything about WW1 should ever be light hearted.


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How about WWII? I can list plenty of light-hearted WWII stuff.
Or light--hearted takes on just about any terrible thing that has happened in human history.

Yes it was a terrible time and a tragedy almost without equal, but at some point you have to be able to put the bad stuff aside.

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No not really.


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So no 'Allo 'allo, no Hogan's Heroes, no Producers, no Monty Python's Life of Brian, not a lot of Python's best stuff in general, nothing that could ever possibly be related to something unpleasant portrayed in a fun manner?

Because it's those two options, really. Either you at some point accept that any given tragedy can be downplayed or made into something funny, or there will be little but depressing tragedies to 'entertain' us.

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Hogan's Heroes did not "put the bad stuff aside". There was was plenty of comedy in the show, but it was still a show that was about fighting and undermining Nazis.

And no, at no point do I have to accept that tragedy can be downplayed or made into something funny. These are real events, real tragedies, they were not made to "entertain" us.


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Hogan's and 'Allo 'allo did downplay the horrors of the war. You cannot deny this. Life of Brian makes fun out of being nailed to a cross.
These are tragic things which are used for humor or, in the case of say CA:TFA, the backdrop for an at core light-hearted romp.

The wars themselves were not made to entertain future generations, and no one is claiming otherwise. What I am claiming is that you can still have fun with these backdrops. You can make fun out of horrible things, and do so quite legitimately and brilliantly.


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"Comedy is pretty funny, I guess. tragedy, now that's funny!" - Bender, Futurama.

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Except you kinda were, when you said you have to at some point put the bad stuff aside. That read like you were dismissing what had happened for the sake of entertainment.

And no, I do not think you can make fun of horrible things, you can inject comedy into a horrible situation, but I do not agree that you should turn something horrific into a comedy.

Hogan's Heroes made fun of Nazis, but they did make fun of the horrors during the war, the did not make fun of the Holocaust, they did no jokes involving gas chambers, they made fun of the monsters that did those things.


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Except you kinda were, when you said you have to at some point put the bad stuff aside. That read like you were dismissing what had happened for the sake of entertainment.

And no, I do not think you can make fun of horrible things, you can inject comedy into a horrible situation, but I do not agree that you should turn something horrific into a comedy.

Hogan's Heroes made fun of Nazis, but they did make fun of the horrors during the war, the did not make fun of the Holocaust, they did no jokes involving gas chambers, they made fun of the monsters that did those things.

And you think Wonder Woman will do these things?

Or are you just focused on Bjorn's comment? If so, that wasn't clear to me.


Take it somewhere else. The movie is coming out this week and some of us have daughters and are curious what others thought of the movie without wading through political discussion #1,456,789 to hear about it.

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I've gone from my kind of cynical 'Please don't suck' mantra that I recite to myself when there's a new potential breakthrough movie to 'Please be even more awesome than I've heard!'

I want to believe! I've been hurt before, but I want to believe!


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If DC finds their "Iron Man" (a chronically mishandled character in the hands of a charismatic actor freed of many macro-cultural expectations gets to just show up and big a Big Damn hero in their own movie) with Wonder Woman, well...

I may just start clapping my hands with childlike glee until they fall off.


I'm in this Friday, as noted above.

We'll see...


I'm pretty sure that the internet said men weren't allowed to see this movie.


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We can get our cross-dressing on. It'll be fine. ;)

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