Is starfinder taking ideas from SpellJammer or Planescape?


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Just curious to anyone whose beta/alpha played or heard anything.


I dont think there is anything being played yet, considering they have only recently finalized their list of races and classes and as of the most recent posts i've seen they are still discussing how they would like to change the combat rules.

As to inspiration from other settings, while it is likely that you will see elements that you have seen in other games the vibe they keep mentioning in interviews is more Babylon 5/Star Wars than the strong emphasis on magic that was in Spelljammer. Open air starships will probably be extremely rare if even present and black powder guns/canons are probably not going to be presented as anything more than a primitive weapons chart. What aspects of Spelljammer would you expect to see ported over?

I am not sure what elements of Planescape you would expect to see in a Science-Fantasy setting either. There will be a central hub in Absalom 5... err, i mean Absalom Station which will likely have a huge melting pot of races from across known space and beyond but that is a staple trope of most settings, a giant city that acts as the gate to the larger setting. Otherwise Planescape dealt a lot more with warring factions, ideologies and the planes themselves whereas Starfinder seems to be focusing much more on exploration on the Prime Material Plane and the newly created Hyperspace dimension with very advanced technology.

Honestly, there is a strong trend in all posts and interviews that technology is very advanced and has displaced magic by virtue of being so common place that anyone can access things that were once locked behind levels of spellcasting. That is a huge departure from not just Pathfinder but also Spelljammer and Planescape and sort of invalidates a lot of what we saw in those settings. i expect a Starfinder Battleship would view a Spelljammer vessel as... quaint.


IIRC in the 100th AP adventure there was something similar to a lightsaber in the book. I wonder if these will be more prominent in Starfinder than in Golarion>?


Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
IIRC in the 100th AP adventure there was something similar to a lightsaber in the book. I wonder if these will be more prominent in Starfinder than in Golarion>?

The Gnome Stew interview include a developer comment about Starfinder appealing to players who wanted to be cyber ninjas with energy blades. I have hopes for this.


Scoundrel the Tiefling wrote:
Just curious to anyone whose beta/alpha played or heard anything.

Very little to nothing from Spelljammer as the Paizo folks have expressed a severe dislike for Spelljammer's fantastick style of cosmology, and it's "wildspace", and seem to be going more for a heavy science-fiction feel.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Scoundrel the Tiefling wrote:
Just curious to anyone whose beta/alpha played or heard anything.
Very little to nothing from Spelljammer as the Paizo folks have expressed a severe dislike for Spelljammer's fantastick style of cosmology, and it's "wildspace", and seem to be going more for a heavy science-fiction feel.

Without actually knowing anything, my feel for it is that it will have science & magic not unlike Dragonstar. SF Vessels, weapons and such, with magic involved, and likely magical "technobabble" for drives (like the plane shift drive for the cathedral ships) and spellcasters. Like Science Fiction with a Magical overlay.. if you will.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Scoundrel the Tiefling wrote:
Just curious to anyone whose beta/alpha played or heard anything.
Very little to nothing from Spelljammer as the Paizo folks have expressed a severe dislike for Spelljammer's fantastick style of cosmology, and it's "wildspace", and seem to be going more for a heavy science-fiction feel.

Yes some medivel scholars thought the nightsky was the inside of some sphere or dome. Yes we have what scientist call the Dyson Sphere concept started by Freeman Dyson. But to mainsteam folks the sphere's in a soup thing just does not work.

I was a SJ fan back in the day, and I always found the whole 'solar systems inside giant cystal spheres; floating in a universe of soup' to be ridiculous to the point of obsurity. Most everything else I was fine with.


I have a spheres in a soup treatment for my fantasy multiverse, but it's a little different. There is one astral plane encompassing everything else. It contains the upper planes, lower planes, material planes, the neutral planes. It is "root level access" to everything else.

Distances between planes on the astral are not that great; you can travel in multiples of mach speed and still get wherever you need to go in a matter of hours or days.

When you arrive at a material plane access point you come across a polished dark crystal globe that appears to have stars, galaxies, clusters, superclusters, in them.

These are compressed universes, larger on the inside than the outside.

A sphere 10,000 miles radius may be 1 trillion light years across on the inside. Universes larger than this are quite uncommon.

1,000 miles on the outside == 100 billion LY on the inside. (Roughly the size of our observable universe)

100 miles on the outside == 10 billion LY on the inside.

10 miles or 50,000 ft outside == 1 billion LY inside.

5,000 ft outside == 100 million LY inside.

500 ft outside == 10 million LY inside. (a universe of a handful of galaxies orbiting one another)

50 ft outside == 1 million LY inside.

5 ft outside == 100,000 LY inside (a universe with a singular galaxy)

6 inches outside == 10,000 LY inside.

1/2 inch outside == 1,000 LY inside.

Smaller universes than these can be found, universes containing a single star system, or just a planet by itself, and perhaps still smaller realms than these, but are extremely rare.

A sojourner on the outside plane shifting into a material plane can end up anywhere on that plane. There's no guarantee they will arrive anywhere near what may be the only inhabited star system among the trillions that exist in that universe. The difficulty of traveling between material planes ensures it is best left to powerful and capable entities.

There is more but you get the gist.


Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
IIRC in the 100th AP adventure there was something similar to a lightsaber in the book. I wonder if these will be more prominent in Starfinder than in Golarion>?

In Song of Silver?


For some reason it won't let me edit my previous post but I found the plasma blade

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