By the rules, 5 foot steps do not provoke AoOs and you die when you get to negative con hp, not when you pass it. Your GM is of course free to houserules those, but you may wish to inform them what the actual written rules are.
Beyond that, did you have some sort of question or reason for posting this?
I've had quite a few players effectively suicide by charging INTO a group of ogres to take them on solo.
Another potential wrinkle is that the Beginner Box rules don't use attacks of opportunity—though of course the GM may have imported it from the full version of the game.
It's possible OP didn't actually mean "5-foot step the miscellaneous action" but a move action to move more than 5 ft, assuming he was fine due to facing and in the first 5 ft of movement, got smacked by an AoO.
The ogre getting an AoO while fighting someone else is a normal thing in the rules if the AoO was legitimately provoked.
The only thing wrong with the scenario is that if you actually only took a 5ft step it wouldn't have provoked.
But otherwise you were surrounded by ogres and thought you should fight them being an alchemist (i.e. fairly squishy). You should have used a full round action to withdraw and just GTFO. I agree here, the only thing that is a little odd is how you ended up surrounded by the ogres instead of having other more resilient melee members of the party to stand in front and take the blows.
If you are the only resident melee character, then that would be your problem. You're trying to use an alchemist as a front line melee character.
If you're an Alchemist that is insisting on getting yourself into untenable melee situations, consider picking up some more survival-focused discoveries and feats, like lingering spirit and diehard.
Seems like the bigger issue is learning when you've overextended and knowing when to cut your losses. While a 5' step shouldn't have provoked, you'd have been clobbered the following turn anyway. A full-round withdraw, as Claxon suggested, would have been the wise play.
It's not that they're squishy, it's just that if you're going to go full melee, you need to invest in some survival-based abilities is all. My vivisectionist has high Con, Toughness, Diehard, Lingering Spirit, Preserve Organs, Mummification, and makes liberal use of longarm and ablative barrier (which turns damage to nonlethal, which he doesn't take because he's immune to nonlethal.)
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But otherwise you were surrounded by ogres and thought you should fight them being an alchemist (i.e. fairly squishy). You should have used a full round action to withdraw and just GTFO. I agree here, the only thing that is a little odd is how you ended up surrounded by the ogres instead of having other more resilient melee members of the party to stand in front and take the blows.
I have seen this happen lots of times with striker type characters. Typical scenario is that they'll acrobat/stealth/charge into a middle of a group of ogres, leaving their parties behind, thinking they'll be taking them down with one/two maneuvers.
Many of them get either badly mauled, or badly dead before the encounter ends.
I think there was a FAQ saying you take an AoO when 5 foot stepping into a creature's space. But I dont think that's what's being described here.
I think there was a FAQ saying you take an AoO when 5 foot stepping into a creature's space. But I dont think that's what's being described here.
In one of those cases I mentioned, the aforementioned solo striker attempted to acrobat his way when surrounded, forgetting that the CMD increases with each creature threathening the same space.
Not that it really mattered with the roll he got. The consequences were..... unpleasant.
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I think there was a FAQ saying you take an AoO when 5 foot stepping into a creature's space. But I dont think that's what's being described here.In one of those cases I mentioned, the aforementioned solo striker attempted to acrobat his way when surrounded, forgetting that the CMD increases with each creature threathening the same space.
Not that it really mattered with the roll he got. The consequences were..... unpleasant.
do you use the one roll VS all, or separate rolls for each?
do you use the one roll VS all, or separate rolls for each?I think there was a FAQ saying you take an AoO when 5 foot stepping into a creature's space. But I dont think that's what's being described here.In one of those cases I mentioned, the aforementioned solo striker attempted to acrobat his way when surrounded, forgetting that the CMD increases with each creature threathening the same space.
Not that it really mattered with the roll he got. The consequences were..... unpleasant.
Separate rolls for each, with a cumulative +2 DC to each roll after the first.