Unchained Monk qq - Dragon Ferocity + Power Attack + IUS


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Sczarni

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Power Attack

Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls.
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Dragon Ferocity

Benefit: While using Dragon Style, you gain a bonus on unarmed strike damage rolls equal to half your Strength bonus. When you score a critical hit or a successful Stunning Fist attempt against an opponent while using this style, that opponent is also shaken for a number of rounds equal to 1d4 + your Strength bonus.
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Unarmed Strike

A monk’s unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons.

If I'm using Dragon Ferocity, hitting with my Unarmed Strike; Does my Power Attack grant the bonus to damage that you'd normally gain with swinging a Temple Sword two-handed?

The way I'm reading this, is that because I'm using Dragon Ferocity, it's granting my Unarmed Attacks a bonus to Strength damage. It's effectively adding 1.5x my Strength modifier on damage rolls, so then I should gain the increased Power Attack damage in combination. I just want to be sure though, so I'm bringing it here.


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The question is whether the game understands that adding "a bonus to damage equal to half your Strength bonus" makes it so that you add "1-1/2 times your Strength modifier", or if you are adding "your Strength modifier + a bonus equal to half your Strength bonus".

I'd rule in favor but I may be wrong. Worth FAQing.

Sczarni

I appreciate any input and/or FAQ!! Thanks, Secret Wizard.


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I'm pretty sure this doesn't work. Power attack checks if you're holding a 2-handed weapon. It does not check your strength multiplier.

Dragon style adds a bonus to damage equal to half your strength bonus. It does not increase or multiply your strength bonus.

The benefits of the two feats stack, but as far as I can tell neither modifies the other's effects.


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nope, it been discussed before and it doesn't.
Your US is not a one-handed weapon used with two hands.
Your US is not a two-handed weapon.
Your US is not a primary natural weapon.
Since those three are the only three ways to get 1.5 damage, and you don't meet any of them, you don't get the increased damage.

Sczarni

Chess Pwn wrote:

nope, it been discussed before and it doesn't.

Your US is not a one-handed weapon used with two hands.
Your US is not a two-handed weapon.
Your US is not a primary natural weapon.
Since those three are the only three ways to get 1.5 damage, and you don't meet any of them, you don't get the increased damage.

Ah, I see now. IUS counts as a natural weapon, but not as a Primary nor Secondary since it's an Unarmed Strike. Is that essentially what you're pointing out?


interesting. Never noticed how specific the wording on power attack is.


Kazumetsa Raijin wrote:
Chess Pwn wrote:

nope, it been discussed before and it doesn't.

Your US is not a one-handed weapon used with two hands.
Your US is not a two-handed weapon.
Your US is not a primary natural weapon.
Since those three are the only three ways to get 1.5 damage, and you don't meet any of them, you don't get the increased damage.
Ah, I see now. IUS counts as a natural weapon, but not as a Primary nor Secondary since it's an Unarmed Strike. Is that essentially what you're pointing out?

Yup

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