I was looking for a cool way to make Shuriken a main staple of a character. I saw the Star Master and was getting excited. My main question is can Finesse Training be applied to your Shuriken (specifically the lev 3 Dex to damage)when using it in melee as part of Thrown Weapon Specialist?
If the answer is yes then would would the dex to damage also apply to when you throw the Shuriken?
I was looking for a cool way to make Shuriken a main staple of a character. I saw the Star Master and was getting excited. My main question is can Finesse Training be applied to your Shuriken (specifically the lev 3 Dex to damage)when using it in melee as part of Thrown Weapon Specialist?
If the answer is yes then would would the dex to damage also apply to when you throw the Shuriken?
Yes, it would apply if you picked kunai as your chosen finesse weapon with finesse training.
No, because finesse training specifically states that you have to be making a melee attack.
Also, unchained ninja is a 3PP product, so this thread should probably be moved to the 3PP Rules questions thread.
um...I thought Piazo adopted it as offical but kept Everyman gaming on it for the purpose of assigning credit. When you are looking at it, at the top it lists:
Classes > Unchained Classes > Unchained Rogue > Alternate Classes >
Which indicates offical in paizo and not 3PP right? If not I apologize for my confusion.
um...I thought Piazo adopted it as offical but kept Everyman gaming on it for the purpose of assigning credit. When you are looking at it, at the top it lists:
Classes > Unchained Classes > Unchained Rogue > Alternate Classes >
Which indicates offical in paizo and not 3PP right? If not I apologize for my confusion.
Nope, both the Unchained Ninja and Star Master archetype are definitely 3PP. It's stated as so in the navigation links at the top of the page:
...Everyman Gaming, LLC - Unchained Ninja > Archetypes > Everyman Gaming, LLC - Unchained Ninja Archetypes > Star Master
So far, Paizo hasn't released their own Unchained version of Ninja.
Again, not intending to argue here but either they need to fix the navigation or Everyman gaming is not technically 3PP anymore.
On the left hand navigation bar, none of the Unchained classes are listed in the 3rd party section. Furthermore when you look at the page for the Unchained Ninja the navigation bar reads:
Classes > Unchained Classes > Unchained Rogue > Alternate Classes >
Not 3rd party classes like:
Classes > 3rd Party Classes > 4 Winds Fantasy Gaming >
In point of fact, 'Everyman Gaming, LLC' is not listed at any time in the 3PP section of the site. This led to my understanding that Paizo has adopted or bought the rights to Everyman Gaming and integrating their material into paizo in such a way as to change them from what they were before (3PP) to now official cannon.
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d20pfsrd isn't even run by paizo. Take it up with the site if they screwed up the organization.
Unchained ninja is 3pp. It even says it's published by Everyman at the bottom of the page and when you search it using the search bar.
Still use it though. Not enough people use third-party.
Again, not intending to argue here but either they need to fix the navigation or Everyman gaming is not technically 3PP anymore.
If you want to avoid using 3PP products, stick to only using Paizo's official PRD instead of the d20pfsrd.com site. The d20pfsrd.com site is not a Paizo-owned site, and thus includes Pathfinder- and OGL-compatible materials from numerous 3PPs. And as Mr Augunas--the actual founder of Everyman Gaming--has already stated, all Everyman Gaming materials are 3PP.
On the left hand navigation bar, none of the Unchained classes are listed in the 3rd party section. Furthermore when you look at the page for the Unchained Ninja the navigation bar reads:
Classes > Unchained Classes > Unchained Rogue > Alternate Classes >
Not 3rd party classes like:
Classes > 3rd Party Classes > 4 Winds Fantasy Gaming >
In point of fact, 'Everyman Gaming, LLC' is not listed at any time in the 3PP section of the site. This led to my understanding that Paizo has adopted or bought the rights to Everyman Gaming and integrating their material into paizo in such a way as to change them from what they were before (3PP) to now official cannon.
If you have a problem with the d20pfrsrd.com navigation, please click the Report a Problem link in the left navigation menu to report it via the site form.
Edit: The unchained ninja, like the original ninja, makes substantial changes to the base unchained rogue class, making it more an alternate class than just an archetype. Since it included modifications and new abilities found in Paizo's unchained rogue and not the original Paizo ninja class, it is currently located in the d20pfsrd with the other class archetypes for the unchained rogue.
Welp, there you have it. Thank you for your patience and time in setting me straight. if anyone reading this is a moderator please feel free to move the thread or delete it since it does not belong here. I apologize.