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Dragon78 wrote:
So what is the princess like both personality wise and ability wise?

awesome. Heavy support character. She also needs no saving.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
So what is the princess like both personality wise and ability wise?
awesome. Heavy support character. She also needs no saving.

If anything, she is under-utilized. She is easily more powerful than any one of the Paladins.


Freehold DM wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
So what is the princess like both personality wise and ability wise?
awesome. Heavy support character. She also needs no saving.

And if she knew how swear properly she would make a good drill sergeant.

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She reminds me of the physician assistant from "Royal Pains."

But with more pet mice.


Freehold DM wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
So what is the princess like both personality wise and ability wise?
awesome. Heavy support character. She also needs no saving.

Disagree with that... Only 11-13 episodes and

princess:
the whole climax was about them rescuing her. not to mention the time she nearly destroys the castle by flying into the sun... She's still the weakest link.

HOnestly there was a lot I liked about the show, and a lot I did not. Allura I found little to no redeeming qualities about.

A true reboot would have made her a strong confident ruler who was a kick-butt pilot of the blue lion and a solid member of the team...

Instead we get an

princess:
obnoxious princess who is literally the ruler of nobody. The castle/ship isn't even based on Arus anymore. She's bossy without the authority. She's really little more then a battery for the ship.

I think Voltron Force did a better update to Allura then Legendary defender did.


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This is poppycock.

Spoiler:
The only reason the princess needed rescuing is because Shiro refused to let her go by herself, cuz "princess", and because of that circumstances dictated that she sacrifice herself so that HE did not get captured.

I suspect we'll discover she's as powerful as Haggar.


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phantom1592 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
So what is the princess like both personality wise and ability wise?
awesome. Heavy support character. She also needs no saving.

Disagree with that... Only 11-13 episodes and ** spoiler omitted **

HOnestly there was a lot I liked about the show, and a lot I did not. Allura I found little to no redeeming qualities about.

A true reboot would have made her a strong confident ruler who was a kick-butt pilot of the blue lion and a solid member of the team...

Instead we get an ** spoiler omitted **

I think Voltron Force did a better update to Allura then Legendary defender did.

wow.

Different strokes for different folks. Still, I can't help but wonder if you actually watched the show or read a synopsis. That's a rather stilted version of events.


I wasn't really happy about her voice or new design plus she sounds like a Mary Su. I do find it weird that her and Coran are the only survivors of there race. So does this mean we will never Nanny, there solders, maids/servants, or common town folk of there people. What about Allura's cousin Princess Romelle.


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Dragon78 wrote:
I wasn't really happy about her voice or new design plus she sounds like a Mary Su. I do find it weird that her and Coran are the only survivors of there race. So does this mean we will never Nanny, there solders, maids/servants, or common town folk of there people. What about Allura's cousin Princess Romelle.

You know, I haven't watched any Voltron at all yet, but.... Since when does most of a race being killed off ever stop more members cropping up in these sorts of situations?


Do they ever just START with the sword of ending the fight?


Freehold DM wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
So what is the princess like both personality wise and ability wise?
awesome. Heavy support character. She also needs no saving.

Disagree with that... Only 11-13 episodes and ** spoiler omitted **

HOnestly there was a lot I liked about the show, and a lot I did not. Allura I found little to no redeeming qualities about.

A true reboot would have made her a strong confident ruler who was a kick-butt pilot of the blue lion and a solid member of the team...

Instead we get an ** spoiler omitted **

I think Voltron Force did a better update to Allura then Legendary defender did.

wow.

Different strokes for different folks. Still, I can't help but wonder if you actually watched the show or read a synopsis. That's a rather stilted version of events.

Nope. I watched it all the way through. Like I said, a lot of things I liked about it, and a lot I didn't. I'll probably watch it at least a second time... probably went through Voltron force about 3-4 times. Again, stuff I liked and stuff I didn't with that one too. I really wish they would have ALL the voltron shows on Netflix at the same time... it really put me in the mood to watch some more. (never DID get all the way through 3rd Dimension...)

But to claim she was awesome and didn't need saving... was not at all what I watched.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Do they ever just START with the sword of ending the fight?

I think they did on the second one... but it didn't work. They REALLY toned down the sword a lot. I also HATE the new design... however I LOVE that they tweaked it into 'red lion's special weapon'. We also got to see Yellow Lion's 'special weapon'... but nothing for Blue/Green/black.... So I hope they get another season to show us those...

One of the things I loved about Voltron Force, was when they lampshaded that bit with new black pilot forming the sword first thing. I think it was Lance pointed out that it used so much energy that they needed to work over the robeasts a bit first or they'd be screwed. There was a reason it was their 'end move' :D


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phantom1592 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
So what is the princess like both personality wise and ability wise?
awesome. Heavy support character. She also needs no saving.

Disagree with that... Only 11-13 episodes and ** spoiler omitted **

HOnestly there was a lot I liked about the show, and a lot I did not. Allura I found little to no redeeming qualities about.

A true reboot would have made her a strong confident ruler who was a kick-butt pilot of the blue lion and a solid member of the team...

Instead we get an ** spoiler omitted **

I think Voltron Force did a better update to Allura then Legendary defender did.

wow.

Different strokes for different folks. Still, I can't help but wonder if you actually watched the show or read a synopsis. That's a rather stilted version of events.

Nope. I watched it all the way through. Like I said, a lot of things I liked about it, and a lot I didn't. I'll probably watch it at least a second time... probably went through Voltron force about 3-4 times. Again, stuff I liked and stuff I didn't with that one too. I really wish they would have ALL the voltron shows on Netflix at the same time... it really put me in the mood to watch some more. (never DID get all the way through 3rd Dimension...)

But to claim she was awesome and didn't need saving... was not at all what I watched.

you liked voltron force.

I can't take your opinion seriously.


Freehold DM wrote:

you liked voltron force.

I can't take your opinion seriously.

LOL

I hate the new punk kids... but liked that it was a 'continuation' of the original series. The original crew were great, the individual weapons were pretty sweet (something that VLD carried over, along with flying castle and Hunk wanting to form the head next time... )

I liked the sequel feel to it a lot better then I did 3rd dimension with Zarkon now a good guy...


Things I liked.

good stuff:

The lions. I loved the way they moved and fought and acted. It really did a great job of blending the science and magic aspect.

The uniforms. I flip flop between loving them and not being a fan... I think 'armor' is vastly overdone now. Originally they looked like flight suits... now they have an 'almost' iron man vibe... but not REALLY... There are enough nods and similarities to the originals, that I usually land on the side of liking them.

The stories were a bit stretched out... but I liked that there was a freshness to them.

Robeasts were awesome... though bummed they only had 2...

Voltron fights were great... just not enough of them.

Disliked black Lions Wings... but loved how they formed a shield... That ones' a toss up.

SPACE MICE! Gotta say... I absolutely HATED the space mice in the original series... but here they were toned down, and explained with the telepathic link in the cryobed... They just kind of 'worked'... and I never thought I'd say that about space mice.

original clothes; I love that we got to see Keith in the red jacket and Hunk with the headband... and Keith's mullet for that matter. Cool things that were iconic... yet dated. Things that most shows WOULD have updated... but this kept for nostalgia. I loved that.

bad stuff:

Things I didn't like.

Focus on Shiro. I don't care about any correlation with Sven... I don't care about the 'original golion'... or any such thing. Keith should be the leader... and Shiro should have been gone by episode 6.

Princess not a pilot. Again, I blame Shiro for this... best case scenario they are trying to make you care about him before they kill him off, but that's poor planning for franchise that struggles to survive. They're banking a lot on a second season where they haven't really seen one since the 80's.

Regardless of her original incompetence... Princess Allura is right up there with Leia as one of the original female action heroes. She was a pilot of VOLTRON and was a lot of little girls only real cartoon character that fought alongside the boys... Taking that away (even if only for one season) only to make us care about someone who died so fast in the original.... Not a great idea.

Keith: Keith was one of my favorites through ALL of the varied series. He was the leader. He formed the head. He got the girl... With Shiro taking all of his stuff... Keith did little to nothing in this show. Shiro was the leader and the best... Lance was the cocky one... Keith, didn't really have anything to do. If they were grooming him for a leadership position, they didn't do a great job. Even though facing down Zarkon with the lion was coolest thing he'd ever done ever.... Still one home run doesn't replace all the walks this show did...

Zarkon... didn't like his new design.

Pidge: As a nerdy, glasses wearing little boy on the playground, constantly considered wimpy and picked last for sports... I really had a soft spot for Pidge. The nerdy little boy who was a hero of the galaxy. Turning him into a girl was like a kick to the stomach. Kids like that used to get called 'girly' all the time. Thanks for makingit true Voltron O.o

Especailly when they SHOULD have had the princess on the team...

Transformation wasn't great... kind of lackluster. When young the whole verbal exchange was the highlight of the show. Now? It felt like the creators were bored with it and just wanted to get it over with...

No Lotar??

Also, and I think this was a big one... It was way too stretched out. They focused a bit too much on 'origin' and not enough on story. That ONLY works when you are guaranteed more season/sequels... and maybe they are. I don't know of any Netflix shows that Haven't gotten renewed... but They only had 11 episodes to play with... I think a couple they didn't even form Voltron in... 2 Robeasts? 2 out of 4/5 super weapons? It just felt too short. They needed to really dive in and get the party started if they had such a limited number of episodes.

Haunted castle was a cool concept... but it felt forced and pushed in when there wasn't room for it.

Oh... Flying Castle? I know they did that in Voltron Force... but I REALLY like the castle being a castle and the princess ruling the kingdom. Having zero ties to Arus really lessens the Princess. In the original series she was a defender. She was trying to save her planet and protect her people. Whether that meant dealing with Lotar or piloting a super lion... she did what she had to do.

This one? She seemed more angry about Zarkon destroying her planet and out for revenge. Just felt... off somehow. I feel they lost a lot without that home base. Not to mention I always like the way the lions were tied to the elements. Red lived in lava, blue in water, etc... and they showed that in the opening credits... But to just have them in hangars in the castle?? Ehhhh Less cool.

My own 2 cents. I hope they get renewed for a second one... but man, it's tough to wait forever for something that you can burn through in about 4 sittings.


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NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! You [insert stream of curse words here]!!! How could you end it like that?!? [insert stream of curse words here]


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~grumbles~ There had better be a season two!!! ~walks off cursing~


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I'm damn glad you saw it and liked it Sharoth.


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~curses some more from over in the corner~


Watched this with my friend, and we had a blast. Every one of the seven main characters gave us plenty of reason to like them, with the exception of Keith, who was mostly there for the interaction with Lance. TVtropes lists him as "The Generic Guy", which fits. We were pretty happy for the cliffhanger ending, since it was more or less a promise that there would be a second season.


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Season 2 Confirmed


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Greylurker wrote:
Season 2 Confirmed

*Said in Falsetto* Sweet!

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Spoiler:
Spoiler[/I]

Cliffhangers are the WORST!

But I liked it. I like the alien designs. I wish there were more robeasts. I like how Princess Alura can shapechange and become super strong. Or was that her armor? Either way, it worked.


Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*
I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

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HeHateMe wrote:

Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*

I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

I foresee Jessica Jones in your near future.


Belabras wrote:
HeHateMe wrote:

Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*

I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

I foresee Jessica Jones in your near future.

and you gotta try Stranger Things

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Belabras wrote:
HeHateMe wrote:

Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*

I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

I foresee Jessica Jones in your near future.

And Luke Cage in your slightly-less near future.


SmiloDan wrote:
Belabras wrote:
HeHateMe wrote:

Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*

I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

I foresee Jessica Jones in your near future.
And Luke Cage in your slightly-less near future.

And Defenders in the further out future.


Thomas Seitz wrote:
SmiloDan wrote:
Belabras wrote:
HeHateMe wrote:

Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*

I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

I foresee Jessica Jones in your near future.
And Luke Cage in your slightly-less near future.
And Defenders in the further out future.

What? No love for Iron Fist?

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Sharoth wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
SmiloDan wrote:
Belabras wrote:
HeHateMe wrote:

Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*

I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

I foresee Jessica Jones in your near future.
And Luke Cage in your slightly-less near future.
And Defenders in the further out future.
What? No love for Iron Fist?

Because The RZA. ;-)


*has plenty of love for Danny Rand* But if the Defenders rumors hold out, we might not just get all these guys, but Mephisto and then Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider!!


Ugh, f--k me, I was sooooo looking forward to binge watching Voltron today but I got called out to work the frigging brushfires. Oh well, I guess I'll have to wait for my wife to have another "girls night" before I can Voltron it up lol.


Thomas Seitz wrote:
SmiloDan wrote:
Belabras wrote:
HeHateMe wrote:

Voltron?? VOLTRON???!!! *SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!*

I am binge watching the holy hell out of this on Saturday while my wife is out with her girlfriends. Yay Netflix, first you bring me the joy that is Daredevil, now you bring me Voltron!

My wife got hooked on Daredevil too, but I think Voltron is going to be my dirty little secret.

I foresee Jessica Jones in your near future.
And Luke Cage in your slightly-less near future.
And Defenders in the further out future.

Ha! My wife and I tried to watch Jessica Jones and didn't quite get into it. I was willing to give it a few episodes but she wasn't into it at all. I do wanna see Luke Cage and especially Iron Fist. I was a big fan of the "Power Man and Iron Fist" comics back in the day. Defenders as well, and now that Daredevil season 3 has been announced, I'm really excited about that


Hate,

I liked Jessica Jones. Probably because I understood her character background in the comics moreso than in the MCU.

Plus marrying Luke Cage and having a girl that will grow up to be the new Captain America doesn't hurt.

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Season 2 teaser trailer up on IO9

Looks like the team is split up for at least an episode or two.

Also, quit trying to sell us on Keith guys. It ain't happening.


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~grumbles~ 19 more days until I start throwing things and cursing incoherently. The bastards will do it again! I just know it! F+$$ing cliffhanger! BASTARDS!!!

Scarab Sages

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New trailer over on Io9


I'm ready.

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Planning on doing another binge watch on Thursday night to lead into S2, so that S1 will be fresh in my head when it starts.


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Well I am 8 episodes into season 2 and loving it. Everyone is getting more in sych with their lions and the reaveals about Kieth are interesting.

Spoiler:
But damn Shiro loves planting the Death Flags.


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I found season 2 to be a warm and safe place. Would you like to walk in the Garden?

:
I love the mermaid episode it was really super creepy.


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Calling it now:

Spoiler:

I suspected that Haggar was an Altaian back in Season 1, and had an inkling of this hypothesis then, but it's now solidified:

Haggar is Allura's mother. Calling it now.

Great moments in the season finale...

Spoiler:

How about all those on-screen stabbings?

Also, who cheered when Shiro stole the Beyard?

Did you cheer when the sword blazed? DID YOU CHEER FOR THE BLAZING SWORD?!

I cheered for the blazing sword.

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I'm glad the Princess is getting over being "racist." Not super racist, or even Drizzt-level racist. But it's good to show you can grow as a person.

Also:

Prince Lotor

I liked the episodes with the mini-teams, but I wish there were more Ro-Beasts. I did like that some challenge couldn't be solved by Voltron and needed the increased action economy of the five lions.


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Did they show

spoiler:
Prince Lotor
or just mention him?

Scarab Sages

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Just mentioned.

I'm an shocked there aren't more space mall comments here. SPACE MALL.

Epic just for the cow alone.

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Aren't all malls space malls?


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Spoiler:
Isn't the cow's name Clopender? Or did I mishear that?

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jemstone wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Caltenecker, according to captioning.

Scarab Sages

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When do we stop doing spoiler tags?

Favorite fight scene this season:

Spoiler:

The Haggar and the Druids vs Blade of Marmora and the Princess. Lots of awesome action and a big reveal there. The armored Zarkon vs Voltron was sweet as well, but we mostly got zoomed out shots of the fight. I actually liked the Zarkon fight vs Red Lion from last season better.

Questions for Season 3

Spoiler:

Since we are undoubtedly getting a reshuffle on who is piloting what lions (Red and Black specifically) I'm interested to see how that plays out. Likely we are going to get a new main character as well, since that provides further story opportunities and balances out the team. Maybe the Galra who was inside the Weblum?

With Zarkon nominally dealt with, will the crew be returning back to Earth? Lots of potential political fall out there, not to mention the Hunk, Pidge, and Lance's families must be wondering about them.

Also, of course, interested to see how they are going to treat Prince Lotor.


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I just finished it and I am ready for season 3. So where is it? Come on, don't keep me waiting.

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