Illegal character at table

[Chess Pwn]

So what do I do if I'm gming a table and when we go to fill out the chronicle we find out that the character was too high to have played for one of the players? Do I just not count then as having played it? No reporting for them and no chronicle? Is the entire table illegal?

[Protoman]

Well definitely don't record the chronicle for that character.

If the game was already over and honest mistake, easiest would probably be just treat it like the player played a pregen, no day job check, get the player to pick a character to apply chronicle to (preferably one that's at the subtier played or closest to it for the simple sake of not worrying if it would have dragged the party up or down a subtier) or lower the GP to 500 GP as if applying to a level 1 character if the chronicle is at least 3-7 tier.

No point messing up the rest of the players' day/night.

If it seems like the player did it on purpose, no chronicle for cheating. And no punishing rest of the table either.

[Tonya Woldridge]

When you first sat at the table and calculated APL, what level did the player give you? Did you look at their last chronicles as a quick audit?

[Chess Pwn]

He gave me 2.2 and the chronicle matched made him legal for season 7 evergreen. Then afterwards we were talking about his trip to piazocon and he found that he had a chronicle for that character from the con that he had applied to this character but hadn't been placed with his normal sheets yet nor had he updated his character the new level yet. He's fine getting no credit and pretending he didn't run it. But we're not sure if that's okay and if he'd be able to legally play the scenario still or if it still counts as played. Applying the credit to someone else as if it was a pregen hadn't crossed our minds. We're just wanting to handle this correctly

[Ryzoken]

It's super easy to have this happen. Games often run right up to the bell of the next time slot or the hall closing, resulting in chronicles just getting jammed into bags where ever. I had to loop through all my papers on the days I earned sheets to ensure chronicles weren't misfiled.

[Andrew Christian]

If the chronicle applied from Paizo Con was Serpents Ire or a pregen credit, you could reassign that credit to a different character as a one time deal and warn him to be more careful next time. Talk to your VC or RVC who have the tools to change the reporting.

[Grey_Mage]

The error was for an evergreen scenario? Don't give him credit. Player seems to agree with this.

Nothing else matters since its repeatable on other characters.

If it was for a normal scenario, I'd issue a chronicle with 0 xp, fame, and gold just to annotate consumables used and lock out the scenario in the future.

[Chess Pwn]

So is the consensus that the table works as normal and he gets no credit for playing? If so, I still am curious about the replayability. He played as lv2, so that was supposed to be his 1 time playing as a lv2. Does he still get to play it again at lv2, or did he use it up on this error?

[Michael Hallet]

I think the response that generally comes out of these is don't punish honest mistakes. If the PC in question played the adventure as a level 1 PC, I see no reason to lock him out of playing it as a level 2 PC for credit in the future.

[Protoman]

Thomas Hutchins wrote:

So is the consensus that the table works as normal and he gets no credit for playing? If so, I still am curious about the replayability. He played as lv2, so that was supposed to be his 1 time playing as a lv2. Does he still get to play it again at lv2, or did he use it up on this error?

Since he played it as a level 2 PC (because he didn't level up his character), does he have another level 2 character to apply the chronicle to? If so, I vote apply the chronicle to it.

If not, then a level 1?

If not applying a chronicle at all, then he'd eventually get to try playing it as a level 2 character once since he doesn't have any chronicle sheets saying he's played it. One can play scenarios for no credit for lots of reasons.

[Sebastian Hirsch]

Several options could work, in this case I would suggest applying the chronicle to the character, since it is a replayable, chances are he will lose a bit of gold in exchange for a boon. Of course now he has used his level 2 replay of that evergreen)

Honest mistake, these things happen the other solutions should be fine too.

[Duncan7291]

Stake
Match
Fire

;)

In all seriousness, it sounds like honest mistake. If the guy forgot about his other chronicle, did he level the character? If he played as a level 2 and honest mistake I would give him option to apply to the character that played it or apply to another character. I would strongly advise to take second option as it just seems more in line with current PFS policies while not being to punitive to the player. Of course, Tonya could have a different reading on this and I would defer to her decision.

[Cebo]

Wise man say, if you punish a man for an honest mistake, he will stop being honest.

[DebugAMP]

I've fixed bigger errors before. Do what you can to make it as kosher as possible and move on. No admonishment, no warnings, just fix it and do your best not to let the paperwork of a game become like the paperwork in my job.