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Seriously. More of a flavor question than rules problem: For a song bird of doom wanting to use disarm with UAS in order to hold onto disarmed weapons, how could it do this?
Adamantine gauntlets custom made for its claws?
Sovereign Glue?
Piece of string between its dorsal guiding feathers?
What else?

doctor_wu |

Murdock Mudeater wrote:Why are the enemies using coconuts as weapons?Pumpkins are better..
gourd leshies with demilichees inside a portable hole. Now the portable hole has a nondetection spell protecting it. Since it is inside an extradimensional space inside an extradimensional space it is inaccessable Now it won't put up much of a fight but if someone kills the gourd leshy finds the protable hole opens it up splat tpk.
Now gourd leshies are guillable so you might be able to get them to think they are giving a gift to an enemy kingdom and has gems that fill human eye sockets in them. Also gourd leshies have pass without trace. Oh and immune to mind affecting affects.

BigNorseWolf |
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deuxhero wrote:Assuming a five ounce bird is a diminutive animal with one strength (which seems right based on the raven stats), just cast bull's strength on itSounds like witchcraft to me!
And do you know what we do with witches?
Go to their house on halloween because they have the best candy AND decorations?

MageHunter |

deuxhero wrote:Assuming a five ounce bird is a diminutive animal with one strength (which seems right based on the raven stats), just cast bull's strength on itSounds like witchcraft to me!
And do you know what we do with witches?
This bird you speak of... Is it a song bird, or a DUCK!!!

Cevah |
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Ventnor wrote:This bird you speak of... Is it a song bird, or a DUCK!!!deuxhero wrote:Assuming a five ounce bird is a diminutive animal with one strength (which seems right based on the raven stats), just cast bull's strength on itSounds like witchcraft to me!
And do you know what we do with witches?
Duck Season.....
/cevah

lemeres |

5 ounce bird carrying 1 pound coconut? Eh, it could happen. Some owls carry up to 2-3 times their weight while in flight.
Of course, there are questions of how the bird phyiscally holds onto the coconut, and whether its body type is appropriate for heavy lifts, and whether the size of the object would obstruct its flight. But... that is far, far too much realism for this game, where physics are representational at best. The game only distinguishes owls from song birds due to size, str, and maybe flight maneuverability for this problem.

Cevah |

Ventnor wrote:deuxhero wrote:Assuming a five ounce bird is a diminutive animal with one strength (which seems right based on the raven stats), just cast bull's strength on itSounds like witchcraft to me!
And do you know what we do with witches?
(excited)
Make a bridge out of her!
...Witch Season!
/cevah

Dracoknight |

Redblade8 wrote:Ventnor wrote:deuxhero wrote:Assuming a five ounce bird is a diminutive animal with one strength (which seems right based on the raven stats), just cast bull's strength on itSounds like witchcraft to me!
And do you know what we do with witches?
(excited)
Make a bridge out of her!
...Witch Season!
/cevah
May we burn her?

Threeshades |

5 ounce bird carrying 1 pound coconut? Eh, it could happen. Some owls carry up to 2-3 times their weight while in flight.
Though there is a distinct difference between a bird of prey which is adapted to snatching up and carrying loads back home, and a songbird, which eats bugs, small fruits and/or seeds and thus has no need for carrying a significant amount above its tare.

lemeres |

lemeres wrote:5 ounce bird carrying 1 pound coconut? Eh, it could happen. Some owls carry up to 2-3 times their weight while in flight.Though there is a distinct difference between a bird of prey which is adapted to snatching up and carrying loads back home, and a songbird, which eats bugs, small fruits and/or seeds and thus has no need for carrying a significant amount above its tare.
...which I acknowledged when discussing bird body types...
and whether its body type is appropriate for heavy lifts, and whether the size of the object would obstruct its flight. But... that is far, far too much realism for this game, where physics are representational at best. The game only distinguishes owls from song birds due to size, str, and maybe flight maneuverability for this problem.
The bird has a body type appropriate for its niche. But the rules hardly make those distinctions, because it would be complicated to a silly degree, and just be a waste of paper.
The central question I tried to address was this: could ANY bird like creature pick up something that heavy compared to its size, and then successfully fly off with it? Is such a thing physically possible at all? In that regard- yes. Owls can do it. Whether the song bird can specifically do it is just a side note. It is like asking if a car can be lifted by hand- can my hands do it? No- but there is some body builder out there that could probably do it (and I frankly feel there is a larger difference in body type between a world class body builder and my scrawny self than there is between these birds...)